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AA Adds DFW-Bloomington (BMI)  
User currently offlineEnilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7036 posts, RR: 13
Posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4381 times:

According to the OAG, AA will start selling one roundtrip on a 50 seat EMB145 from DFW to BMI starting in November.

Dep DFW 1300 ER4 Operated Daily by: MQ
Arr BMI 1500 ER4 flt 3482

Dep BMI 1525 ER4 Daily
Arr DFW 1730 ER4 flt 3481

This probably doesn't go into Sabre until Sunday.

[Edited 2008-08-08 06:35:12]

[Edited 2008-08-08 07:10:29]

44 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently onlineMOBflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1209 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4374 times:

Very nice to see that AA still has its eyes on potential markets for growth, not pure contraction.

User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 52
Reply 2, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4332 times:

Cool... more connection options to Central Illinois is great, but wish a BMI-NYC nonstop would come to fruition.


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User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5692 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4271 times:

Man... I wish MWA would have a market to DFW, or ORD even.

I know its all about yield and demand and such but sure would be nice!  Sad

Alex



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User currently offlineExaauadl From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4240 times:

Good for them. gets back 50 of the 150 seats lost when UA pulled out. Will AA still operate 2x daily DFW-PIA?

User currently offlineKBMIFlyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 4073 times:

Yea!! The airport has been asking for a westbound hub flight for years. Glad to see we are finally going to get it.

Any chance we are getting a fourth flight to ORD at the same time, since UA recently pulled out?


User currently offlineDFW13L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 4058 times:



Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 3):
Man... I wish MWA would have a market to DFW, or ORD even.

Poor Alex...are you tired of driving all the way to STL yet?


User currently offlineExaauadl From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4036 times:



Quoting KBMIFlyer (Reply 5):
Any chance we are getting a fourth flight to ORD at the same time, since UA recently pulled out?

doubt it, the DFW flight probably is in leiu of a 4th ORD flight


User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5692 posts, RR: 52
Reply 8, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4019 times:



Quoting DFW13L (Reply 6):

Poor Alex...are you tired of driving all the way to STL yet?

Hahaha Yes sir I am! I want some miles dang it! :-P

Alex



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User currently offlineKBMIFlyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4006 times:



Quoting Exaauadl (Reply 7):
doubt it, the DFW flight probably is in leiu of a 4th ORD flight

That is my thought, also. I would really like a mid-afternoon ORD flight though.

When UA announced last month they were leaving, I sent AA customer relations a note asking about another flight to ORD or a flight to DFW. I did receive a nice response from them. I would like to think my note had at least a little (<.1%) to do with this flight getting added.


User currently offlineKcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3795 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3858 times:



Quoting KBMIFlyer (Reply 9):
I would like to think my note had at least a little (<.1%) to do with this flight getting added.

Of course it did.  Wink



If I were in BMI, I wouldnt be asking for too much more service. That may sound crazy, but you wouldnt want AirTran to be driven out.

I'm also sure that AirTrans prices make it a little harder for the other airlines to compete and make money with rj's there.


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21508 posts, RR: 56
Reply 11, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3850 times:

I'm surprised they didn't already have this flight since they serve CMI from DFW.

-Mir



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User currently offlineKingCavalier From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 1302 posts, RR: 17
Reply 12, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3821 times:

State Farm has a lot of traffic between DFW and BMI. This is great news.


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User currently onlineMOBflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1209 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3565 times:

The flight begins on Sunday, November 2, 2008.

User currently offlineFlyPeoria From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 429 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3546 times:



Quoting Mir (Reply 11):
I'm surprised they didn't already have this flight since they serve CMI from DFW.

I'd be worried in Champaign-Urbana. AE will offer lower fares on BMI-DFW than CMI-DFW. Recall what happened to DL at CMI after they started BMI-ATL.


User currently offlineDTW757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1553 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3523 times:



Quoting KingCavalier (Reply 12):
State Farm has a lot of traffic between DFW and BMI. This is great news.

That may be, but this flight is not convenient for the business traveler. While I love to see small cities get new service, a midday turn flight does not attract the business traveler. They want those first out and late evening return flights. That way they can go for the day and not waste the middle of the day in the air. MQ tried that at TOL and pulled it after a very short time.



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User currently onlineMOBflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1209 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3522 times:



Quoting FlyPeoria (Reply 14):
AE will offer lower fares on BMI-DFW than CMI-DFW

Indeed, their pricing power will be somewhat limited. I'm pleased to see some growth/redeployment to relatively smaller markets, but weren't there more low-hanging fruit for AA to consider?


User currently offlineKcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3795 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3502 times:



Quoting MOBflyer (Reply 16):
I'm pleased to see some growth/redeployment to relatively smaller markets, but weren't there more low-hanging fruit for AA to consider?

Nah, they wanted to go compete in a market with a LCC.


User currently offlineSLUAviator From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 357 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3492 times:



Quoting DTW757 (Reply 15):
but this flight is not convenient for the business traveler.

Sure it is..... if you are looking for the night departures to Europe, or South America......

(just a bit of sarcasm)



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User currently offlineEXAAUADL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3403 times:



Quoting FlyPeoria (Reply 14):
I'd be worried in Champaign-Urbana. AE will offer lower fares on BMI-DFW than CMI-DFW. Recall what happened to DL at CMI after they started BMI-ATL.

Isnt the DFW-CMI flight a flight to CMI for overnight Mx?


User currently offlineCIDflyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2271 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3358 times:



Quoting DTW757 (Reply 15):
Quoting KingCavalier (Reply 12):
State Farm has a lot of traffic between DFW and BMI. This is great news.

That may be, but this flight is not convenient for the business traveler. While I love to see small cities get new service, a midday turn flight does not attract the business traveler. They want those first out and late evening return flights. That way they can go for the day and not waste the middle of the day in the air. MQ tried that at TOL and pulled it after a very short time.

true, the CMI-DFW flight is better timed, early outbound to DFW and late evening return, allowing for business travellers to spend the day there and be home again at night. Also, AA flies between both ORD and CMI/BMI so I am optimistic both cities can have co-existing DFW flights as well. The BMI flight seems more timed to connect to evening flights to South America.

all in all, nice to see a press release announcing new service instead of service reductions for a change.


User currently offlineZone1 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1035 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3335 times:

It's always nice to see new service here in Central IL, but I know I won't be taking this flight ever just because of the times.


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User currently offlineEnilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7036 posts, RR: 13
Reply 22, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3275 times:



Quoting DTW757 (Reply 15):
That may be, but this flight is not convenient for the business traveler. While I love to see small cities get new service, a midday turn flight does not attract the business traveler. They want those first out and late evening return flights. That way they can go for the day and not waste the middle of the day in the air. MQ tried that at TOL and pulled it after a very short time.



Quoting SLUAviator (Reply 18):
Sure it is..... if you are looking for the night departures to Europe, or South America......

If State Farm is really who this flight is servicing then it may be well timed. Typically the majority of HQ traffic consists of field locations flying into the headquarters for meetings. Typically the HQ staff is less likely to fly out than the field locations are to fly in. If that is the case with State Farm the flight is well timed.


User currently offlineTravatl From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2173 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3265 times:



Quoting Enilria (Reply 22):
If State Farm is really who this flight is servicing then it may be well timed. Typically the majority of HQ traffic consists of field locations flying into the headquarters for meetings. Typically the HQ staff is less likely to fly out than the field locations are to fly in. If that is the case with State Farm the flight is well timed.

In that logic, woudn't it be better to have a flight that arrives BMI mid morning, and returns early evening?


User currently offlineVictorKilo From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 304 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3210 times:



Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 19):
Isnt the DFW-CMI flight a flight to CMI for overnight Mx?

Yes. Flightstar does overnight MX work for five MQ ERJ's a night - four from ORD and one from DFW. This results in some odd scheduling of the flights - all four of the ORD RON's depart CMI between 0600 and 0900, and five of the six flights arrive between 1700 and 2200.


25 KcrwFlyer : How well do those flights do, so closely scheduled?
26 Zone1 : You would think. I work for the other big company here in central IL, and I know our corporate travel office looks for price and times equally. Becau
27 Post contains links KarlB737 : Well at last here is the official word on the thread topic: Press Release Source: American Eagle Airlines American Eagle Airlines to Begin Service Bet
28 TWFirst : You work for ADM?
29 Post contains links KarlB737 : The local paper, The Pantagraph has finally got the news and chimed in: Bloomington Airport Gets Daily Nonstop Flight To Dallas http://www.pantagraph.
30 Zone1 : That would be correct.
31 Enilria : I guess they don't read airliners.net at the Pantagraph.
32 KarlB737 : I E-Mailed them the story yesterday and the press release today. Where are their reporters--must I do everything for them. LOL
33 OMA2FAI2SAV : Their reporters, like most other people here in the Centeral Illinois area are more concerned with the damage the Japaneese Beetles are doing to the c
34 Cloudy : BMI may get more air service in the future. Decatur, Springfield and Champaign will probably lose a lot of service if fuel prices continue to stress R
35 Soxfan : Is 25 minutes a tight turnaround for a 50-seat jet in BMI? Or, is AA either 1) building a big cushion into the flight time for potential delays, or 2)
36 KBMIFlyer : Is it tight, yes, but it is not really that uncommon. 25 and 30 minute turns at some of the smaller AE stations in the midwest are routine. Both of o
37 USXguy : Man, I remember the day when we had TONS of flights from Central Illinois to St. Louis & Chicago. Springfield had what felt like hourly service betwee
38 TWFirst : Likewise... I remember at one point in the very early 90's, DEC had service to ORD from Eagle (and maybe United too), STL from Trans States, and IND
39 USXguy : and its sad to see how Great Lakes has decimated the STL operations... 125 folks a MONTH flying between Decatur and STL... Doug down in MWA got his wi
40 Cloudy : Yes. If it were legally possible, it would help central Illinois to stop commercial service to Springfield, Decatur and Champaign. If all the traffic
41 Zone1 : Well with UA's recent moves it seems like they have put all their chips on SPI, so I doubt they will be cutting much more than they have. I doubt the
42 USXguy : IAD-SPI was between an average of 35 to 50% load... sometimes you'd get 80%, rarely though.
43 KcrwFlyer : Thats a pretty long RJ flight to have loads like that... It got cut right?
44 Zone1 : Yes, at the beginning of July. It's too bad it got cut because not having to deal with ORD is always a good thing. I have flown SPI-ORD 3 times in th
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