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United Applies For LAX-PVR  
User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25531 posts, RR: 50
Posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4829 times:

United today filed with the DOT for approval to commence LAX-PVR service using A320 aircraft effective December 20th.

The authority for this route is being vacated by US Airways(Mesa) effective August 31st.


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User currently offlineAznCSA4QF744ER From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 692 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 4662 times:

No TED on this route? Oh wait, TED is dead!!!! LOL
I wouldn't be surprised if it's a United painted airplane but with TED configuration.....


User currently offlineLACA773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 4027 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4389 times:
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What? This just doesn't make any sense. They are cutting Mexico and Central America flights left and right and now they want to add PVR. Oh wait. Is it because they have also added SJD? I wish UA wasn't so labile when it comes to Mexico (especially MEX-that's just stupiditiy as far as I'm concerned) and Central America.

LAXIntl, Will this flight just be a Saturday operation?


User currently offline777fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2502 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4208 times:



Quoting LACA773 (Reply 2):
What? This just doesn't make any sense. They

Sure it does. Most of the US is in a deep freeze by 12/20. Puerto Vallarra is not. Many Americans travel the two weeks around the Christmas/New Year holiday when the kids are out of school. Running the flight from LAX allows just about anyone to get there; East Coasters or Midwesterners that really want to get outta town will tolerate a West Coast connection if it means not freezing their ass off during the holidays.

Makes perfect sense, IMO.


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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25531 posts, RR: 50
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 3990 times:

United did not post a schedule in their application, however I dont see why this flight should not work for them.

UA is the largest airline at LAX, has a very large following, and can also connect people across the country as 777fan says via LAX to PVR as needed.
In addition dont forget UA currently flies to PVR from DEN, ORD and SFO, so I think they know the market well enough to expect a LAX flight to work.



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User currently offlineLACA773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 4027 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3879 times:
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Quoting LAXintl (Reply 4):
UA is the largest airline at LAX, has a very large following, and can also connect people across the country as 777fan says via LAX to PVR as needed.
In addition dont forget UA currently flies to PVR from DEN, ORD and SFO, so I think they know the market well enough to expect a LAX flight to work.

I see what your saying LAxintl. It makes since but I still don't get it considering they are all but axing LAX-MEX which I believe provides better yields. I do understand what you said about why they are getting rid of their Central American flights but not the all important Mexico City. I guess maybe I'm just not getting it.


User currently offlineBigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2926 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3846 times:

Is their application unopposed? I was thinking this could be a good route for VX but seeing they were denied SJD they would probably be denied this one too.

User currently offlineLambert747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3808 times:



Quoting LAXintl (Thread starter):
United today filed with the DOT for approval to commence LAX-PVR service using A320 aircraft effective December 20th.

Interesting. United Airlines draws down LAX-MEX and adds a beach market. I have a feeling this will end up being a short lived seasonal service.

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 4):
In addition dont forget UA currently flies to PVR from DEN, ORD and SFO, so I think they know the market well enough to expect a LAX flight to work.

Wasn't LAX-PVR flown in the past with United Airlines? Why not focus the resources on a higher yielding market such as MEX?


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25531 posts, RR: 50
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3789 times:

Yes so far its unopposed, however it would not surprise me if Virgin America wanted to try this one also. They have 10 days to oppose it, at which time the DOT would hold a formal carrier selection proceeding.

Interestingly this is United's 2nd time around for the LAX-PVR route having applied for it back in 2005 which was awarded to Delta (gaining back an old Western route which DL let lapse).

Tough for VX, I have to say PVR is much more a family leisure market then SJD from SoCal which had its share of the younger jetset yuppie crowd that the VX product seems more tailored for.



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User currently offlineLACA773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 4027 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3775 times:
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Quoting LAXintl (Reply 8):
Tough for VX, I have to say PVR is much more a family leisure market then SJD from SoCal which had its share of the younger jetset yuppie crowd that the VX product seems more tailored for.

I see your point LAXintl. Actually, PVR is tailored for a larger variety of travelers than SJD is. There's a much wider range of options in PVR compared to the much higher end options of SJD.

Quoting Lambert747 (Reply 7):
Interesting. United Airlines draws down LAX-MEX and adds a beach market. I have a feeling this will end up being a short lived seasonal service.

Agree 150 % Lambert747. Thankyou.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25531 posts, RR: 50
Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3753 times:



Quoting Lambert747 (Reply 7):
I have a feeling this will end up being a short lived seasonal service.

I dont see it that way.

United has operated PVR service from SFO(daily in summers) for many years now, while DEN and ORD service have also been operated on a pretty consistent basis.

LAX-PVR is arguably the largest of the PVR markets, and one in that even Delta with its physophrenic LA scheduling currently maintains daily service on using 757, so I would think UA should be able to come up with the folks with even more ease then DL.



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