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Qantas Grounds 737-400s Due To Maintenance Issues  
User currently offlineFlyingKangaroo From Australia, joined Apr 2004, 532 posts, RR: 2
Posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 5118 times:

Qantas has grounded a reported six 737-400s due to indiscrepancies with paperwork regarding maintenance carried out on the aircraft.

This ontop of Qantas' recent string of incidents will no doubt lead to a massive media beat up...

http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/dyn.../details?ArticleID=2008/aug08/3802

flyingKangaroo


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User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7210 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 5047 times:

Best to come clean on it.

It would be worse if the Regulators had grounded them.

Hopefully, in a couple of months this will be behind them.


User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 847 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 5017 times:

After this press realease media will have a hayday bashing Qantas. *Better?*

What´s next: Qantas 332 grounded due to lack of lav paper.......

//Micke   

[Edited 2008-08-12 06:33:39]


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User currently offlineSInGAPORE_AIR From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13735 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4949 times:



Quoting Solnabo (Reply 2):
The media never stop bashing Qantas.

How is this the media bashing Qantas? Qantas Airways put out a press release.



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User currently offlineCwldude From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 691 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4619 times:

Just one thing after another for them lately ain't it?

Silver Lining... They're actually doing their hardest to deal with any problems they may have with aircraft now! Within a couple of months it'll be gone and forgotten!



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User currently offlineSunriseValley From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 4614 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4380 times:



Quoting FlyingKangaroo (Thread starter):
Qantas has grounded a reported six 737-400s due to indiscrepancies with paperwork regarding maintenance carried out on the aircraft.

It was this same issue that effectively finished Ansett. I am sure heads will roll in Melbourne where I believe the maintenance for QF domestic is centered.


User currently offlineJbernie From Australia, joined Jan 2007, 880 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4141 times:



Quoting SInGAPORE_AIR (Reply 3):
How is this the media bashing Qantas? Qantas Airways put out a press release.

I think Solnabo is suggesting that even though Qantas discovered an issue, grounded the planes, etc etc, certain parts of the media will be dining out so to speak on this issue and all the others and trying to portray QF as an unsafe airline, more so than it really is.

Also, with a relatively small industry by way of the number of large Australian carriers, there aren't too many other airlines who can have an "error" to give the media something else to talk about. At least in the USA you can just do a daily rotation between all the majors and not need to repeat an airline for over a week  Smile


User currently offlineQFYMML From Australia, joined Jun 2007, 170 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4045 times:



Quoting SunriseValley (Reply 5):
It was this same issue that effectively finished Ansett. I am sure heads will roll in Melbourne where I believe the maintenance for QF domestic is centered.

Similar issue though this time they have identified irregularities in the paperwork over an AD issued regarding a pressure bulkhead in the 734s.
Only it seems though that QF, unlike AN, still have the the paperwork.



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User currently offlineF9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4947 posts, RR: 28
Reply 8, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4000 times:



Quoting FlyingKangaroo (Thread starter):
Qantas has grounded a reported six 737-400s due to indiscrepancies with paperwork regarding maintenance carried out on the aircraft.

This ontop of Qantas' recent string of incidents will no doubt lead to a massive media beat up...

http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/dyn.../details?ArticleID=2008/aug08/3802

flyingKangaroo

And the media should be applauding these actions by Qantas. Someone found a discrepancy, and took action. How many airlines have we seen through the years ground aircraft due to discrepancies? I have seen my fair share. Nothing alarming at all. Maybe the media should do more focusing on the world issues, and leave Qantas alone. Qantas is a darned fine airline, with a great record. I would fly on them any day, any time, and anywhere.



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User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4738 posts, RR: 26
Reply 9, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3947 times:



Quoting SunriseValley (Reply 5):
It was this same issue that effectively finished Ansett. I am sure heads will roll in Melbourne where I believe the maintenance for QF domestic is centered.

AN had issues more than this, the maintenance was just part of the problem. At least with QF, their 767s are a two-man operation!



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User currently offlineFlyingKangaroo From Australia, joined Apr 2004, 532 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3837 times:



Quoting F9Animal (Reply 8):
Maybe the media should do more focusing on the world issues, and leave Qantas alone. Qantas is a darned fine airline, with a great record. I would fly on them any day, any time, and anywhere.

I completely agree; while the 744 incident in MNL was something major-ish, the 737 that returned to the gate in MEL and the flight that returned to ADL were pretty minor and worth less than a minute on the 6pm news, not an entire story. It's really annoying to hear people say "Oh after this I'll never fly QF again!" or "This would never happen on _______, their planes are so much newer/better maintained etc." These things occur pretty much daily around the world and are not news worthy.

flyingKangaroo



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User currently offlineF9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4947 posts, RR: 28
Reply 11, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3718 times:



Quoting FlyingKangaroo (Reply 10):
I completely agree; while the 744 incident in MNL was something major-ish, the 737 that returned to the gate in MEL and the flight that returned to ADL were pretty minor and worth less than a minute on the 6pm news, not an entire story. It's really annoying to hear people say "Oh after this I'll never fly QF again!" or "This would never happen on _______, their planes are so much newer/better maintained etc." These things occur pretty much daily around the world and are not news worthy.

flyingKangaroo

I totally agree with you. How many people said they would never fly UA again after the side ripped off of a 747 near HNL? Or the Aloha 737 that lost half its top over HNL? Those involved loss of life, as to where the QF incident ended safely.

In a month or two, things will return back to normal. I know Qantas has one heck of a fine record, and so does the world. QF has one of the sweetest fleets of aircraft, and some great service. Love em, and support em all the way!  Smile



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User currently offlineSInGAPORE_AIR From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13735 posts, RR: 19
Reply 12, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2254 times:

Turmoil for Qantas as craft grounded

Yesterday Qantas insisted that the grounding of the 737-400 fleet was due to "paperwork" and was not a safety issue.

But Mr Purvinas said: "Not a safety issue, my arse.

"These aircraft [may] have been flying for up to five years with missing parts."

More at Sydney Morning Herald



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User currently offlineTdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80
Reply 13, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2130 times:



Quoting SInGAPORE_AIR (Reply 12):
But Mr Purvinas said: "Not a safety issue, my arse.

"These aircraft [may] have been flying for up to five years with missing parts."

That contradicts what he says earlier in the same article...the parts weren't missing...they may not have been installed per the AD. However, Qantas says the way they did it was approved by Boeing and the regulator, so I'm not sure what the issue is.

Tom.


User currently offlineQuetzal From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1994 times:

Any idea of the registrations of the aircraft involved?


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