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Northwest DC-9 In Delta Hanger  
User currently offlineDrewwright From United States of America, joined May 2001, 621 posts, RR: 1
Posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 13489 times:

Am I the only one that noticed a NW DC-9 tail sitting in the Delta MX center in ATL. It's been there all week. Is Delta training the MX folks to work on these birds already?

DRW

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User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7559 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 13469 times:

Could be, or it could be that the plane had a maint issue so its getting fixed by NW mechanics, NW used to have a DC-9 heavy maint base in Atlanta until around 2003-2004.


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User currently offlineAzjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 3990 posts, RR: 27
Reply 2, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 13404 times:

Perhaps the mx that was required needed hanger space to stay out of the weather. Airlines rent space and borrow equipment from each other all the time. Unless NWA has contracted to DL tech ops to work on the plane, I seriously doubt any DL will be touching a red tail a/c.

User currently offlineSPREE34 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 2258 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 13407 times:

Could be DL doing contract maintenance as well. They work on a variety of aircraft there. Remember, DL used to have DC-9s in the fleet. USAF and USN have used DL many times in the past for C-9 work.


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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25871 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 13294 times:



Quoting SPREE34 (Reply 3):
Remember, DL used to have DC-9s in the fleet.

DL was the launch customer and first DC-9 operator.


User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 13172 times:

Cue the rumors of it being there to be put into the DL colors..... duck 

Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 1):
Could be, or it could be that the plane had a maint issue so its getting fixed by NW mechanics, NW used to have a DC-9 heavy maint base in Atlanta until around 2003-2004.



Quoting Azjubilee (Reply 2):
Perhaps the mx that was required needed hanger space to stay out of the weather. Airlines rent space and borrow equipment from each other all the time. Unless NWA has contracted to DL tech ops to work on the plane, I seriously doubt any DL will be touching a red tail a/c.

That would definitely be the most logical reason right there. I'm guessing that this time of the year TechOps has some excess hangar space that they could rent out as needed.


User currently offlineKarlB737 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3135 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 13042 times:



Quoting SPREE34 (Reply 3):
Remember, DL used to have DC-9s in the fleet

First I used to fly on Delta DC9s in the late 1960s and early 1970s. How long have they been out of the Delta fleet? Would there be any DC9 mechanics that serviced them back then still around today?


User currently offlineFlynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 13013 times:

It's not a conspiracy folks.

The aircraft is undergoing repair after damage it received on the stand last week.


User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 12950 times:



Quoting Drewwright (Thread starter):
Is Delta training the MX folks to work on these birds already?

Airlines share hangar space all the time. VERY common.



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User currently offlinePlanefxr From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 12782 times:



Quoting KarlB737 (Reply 6):
How long have they been out of the Delta fleet?

Sometime around 1992.

Quoting KarlB737 (Reply 6):
Would there be any DC9 mechanics that serviced them back then still around today?

Yes, and I might add that there are many similarities between the DC9 and the MD-88 and MD-90's.


User currently offlineKarlB737 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3135 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 12730 times:



Quoting Flynavy (Reply 7):
It's not a conspiracy folks.

I don't see anything wrong in asking questions as a part of this discussion.


User currently offlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8709 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 12702 times:

OMG, are they using this for some dark ceremony to suck the soul out of Northwest Airlines through the DC-9? It sounds like a jellyfish eating its prey, no?

User currently offlineNwaesc From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 3391 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 12677 times:



Quoting Flynavy (Reply 7):
It's not a conspiracy folks.

The aircraft is undergoing repair after damage it received on the stand last week.

Correct. It's my understanding that it was struck by a piece of ground equipment during some storms a week or two back...



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User currently offlineDeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9672 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 12606 times:



Quoting Srbmod (Reply 5):
That would definitely be the most logical reason right there. I'm guessing that this time of the year TechOps has some excess hangar space that they could rent out as needed.

I think its more a one time deal. Not sure but I think now that TechOps has all of this contract work they keep all 3 TOCs pretty full all year round.

Quoting Drewwright (Thread starter):
Is Delta training the MX folks to work on these birds already?

No and they wouldn't need to. TechOps is already trained on DC-9s

Quoting Nwaesc (Reply 12):
Correct. It's my understanding that it was struck by a piece of ground equipment during some storms a week or two back...

I think it happened 2 weekends ago. We had a big storm move in on Sunday (Aug. 1)



yep.
User currently offlinePlanefxr From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 11596 times:



Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 13):
I think its more a one time deal. Not sure but I think now that TechOps has all of this contract work they keep all 3 TOCs pretty full all year round.

Indeed they do. DL is actually hurting for hanger space, since they closed DFW, TPA and DNTC. The merger will present DL with some much needed hanger space, SEA for example.


User currently offlineCAMPBELL From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 27 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 11464 times:

Delta's last DC-9 Flight took place on January 1, 1993. A flight from DFW to ATL

User currently offlineDrewwright From United States of America, joined May 2001, 621 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 11466 times:

Thanks for the info. What about the EOS planes? They have been in there for months. Is DL taking them back?

User currently offlineF9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 5116 posts, RR: 28
Reply 17, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 11362 times:

Maybe DL asked to have one for the DL history museum!


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User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7559 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 11362 times:



Quoting Planefxr (Reply 14):
Indeed they do. DL is actually hurting for hanger space, since they closed DFW, TPA and DNTC. The merger will present DL with some much needed hanger space, SEA for example.

True, but the problem is that NW themselves uses up their hanger space. So really they need to build more hangers, MEM may be able to have the space for a couple hangers. Since DL is doing so much in-house work, which IMO is much better then sending them elsewhere, I can see them also moving the NW planes back in-house for heavy maint as well, which means they would definately need more hangers. MSP lost hanger space, But MSP does have some land left. So who knows.



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User currently offlineNWAESC From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 3391 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 11341 times:



Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 18):
MSP lost hanger space, But MSP does have some land left. So who knows.

Too bad the DLH hangar isn't still in the mix....



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User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17118 posts, RR: 66
Reply 20, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 11303 times:

The Mad Nitpicker Strikes:

Hanger - for clothes.
Hangar - for aircraft.



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User currently offlineStratosphere From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1653 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 11249 times:



Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 18):
True, but the problem is that NW themselves uses up their hanger space. So really they need to build more hangers, MEM may be able to have the space for a couple hangers. Since DL is doing so much in-house work, which IMO is much better then sending them elsewhere, I can see them also moving the NW planes back in-house for heavy maint as well, which means they would definately need more hangers. MSP lost hanger space, But MSP does have some land left. So who knows.

Why would they do that? They have already demonstrated as well as stated "we are not in the maint business" They had a hanger in ATL they closed it. they tore down the B side hangers and shops in MSP also they had plans years ago to build a hanger in MEM and they scrapped that too. I can't see them spending the money to build a new hanger when they had hanger space to begin with and got rid of it as well as most of the mechanics.



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User currently offlineHermansCVR580 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 510 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 10164 times:

Well it would only be fitting to be the first NWA plane painted in the Delta colors. So if I do the math correctly then that means that Delta is going to keep the DC-9's around another 50 years atleast. Sad part is that some of the NWA DC-9-50 series are as old as myself and somtimes I think that the DC-9 are going to out live me, my children and possibly even my grandchildren  duck   eek   flamed  I wounder if there will be a book published about the NWA DC-9's once they are retired or a movie made like Top Duck when NWA retired the Convairs?


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User currently offlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8709 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 10117 times:



Quoting HermansCVR580 (Reply 23):
I wounder if there will be a book published about the NWA DC-9's once they are retired

In the year 3000, when we are all Sun-Gods, we can still use DC-9s with hyperjets on them to travel the galaxy.  biggrin 


User currently offlineF9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 5116 posts, RR: 28
Reply 24, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 10065 times:



Quoting Flighty (Reply 24):


Quoting HermansCVR580 (Reply 23):
I wounder if there will be a book published about the NWA DC-9's once they are retired

There will be threads in airliners.net that will continue for many years after the last DC-9.

Some possible starters are:

What was it like to fly on a NW DC-9?

Does NW still have DC-9's?

Why did NW retire the DC-9?

What DC-9 was I on?



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25 DocLightning : Naw. NW would never re-engine them. Too expensive. But they will still be flying in 3000
26 Planefxr : The insourcing that DL is doing is mostly components and engines, DL is very good at it and the profit is good. HMV's which DL also outsourced are ma
27 TheGov : The flight was actually DFW-MEM-ATL, which was ironic, because the first DL DC-9 flight was ATL-MEM-MCI. The first DL DC-9 flight was an equipment su
28 Flynavy : Back? They were never ours to begin with. And no, they are not being taken up by DL. You apparently see something wrong with the question being answe
29 SPREE34 : The mechanics (A&P) work on everything, not just a specific type. Won't happen. I hear Southern had hidden garlic throughout the airframes back in th
30 HermansCVR580 : Rumors are it was effective on Lorenzo as well. Too bad it did'nt work on Wolf durning the Republic years.
31 StarAlliance38 : Yep! I saw some DL planes in CO's hangar in MCO
32 DALMD88 : This thread has a lot of talk about DL/NW adding hangars after the merger. I doubt it will happen anytime soon. If it does happen look for them to be
33 Flynavy : Delta will not be giving up any space in Atlanta.
34 FalconBird : That's what I was thinking as well.
35 DALMD88 : Like I said, both airlines gave up space in ATL. NW gave up the old Southern hangar and we gave up the old Eastern hangar.
36 DeltaL1011man : He was talking about the EA hangar which DL dropped during BK. Also the TPA hangar they pissed away. Really nice hangar to. Not very old.
37 DL Widget Head : What really surprises me about this thread on a site about aviation, frequented by seemingly knowledgeable aviation enthusiasts, is just how many can'
38 DL Widget Head : What are the odds, writing a post about spelling and then committing my own faux pa. I meant to spell clothes. It's kismet I guess.
39 Flynavy : Touché!
40 Burnsie28 : Because DL does a lot of in house work. Painting the aircraft etc. Where as NW doesn't.
41 Stratosphere : Sorry thought you were referring to NW.....Well who knows but an awful lot of former NW execs are at the controls of DL now...I wonder if they will t
42 Nwarooster : Northwest wanted to get completely out of the maintenance of its aircraft. NWA tried to out source as much of the maintenance it could. It had a lot
43 STT757 : Exactly, DL doesn't even have a hangar at JFK. Obviously they borrow someone else's.
44 Nwaesc : How ironic that this post of yours is riddled with errors as well.
45 413X3 : Who cares how some old 15th century englishman tells you how to spell. hanger hangar big deal
46 Syncmaster : According to who? Northwest's MX reliability INCREASED after they outsourced. And still is very high. Certain vendors may not provide the absolute be
47 Nwarooster : According to me. I worked there as a Crew chief until the end of April 2005. I had worked there 37 years as a mechanic and saw their maintenance go d
48 SASD209 : It's called 'attention to detail'. People that can spell correctly are usually taken more seriously than those who cannot. Just my $0.02. SASD209
49 TOLtommy : I believe those planes were previously with Mexicana, not DL. They are probably doing work on behalf of the company who actually owned the planes.
50 Stratosphere : I also think you were the junior guy there were you not rooster...LOL...Hope you are enjoying retirement Jim....I miss the old days in the electric s
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