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747-8F Production Underway!  
User currently offlineLHRlocal From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2008, 273 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 14727 times:

From: http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/flightblogger/

'Wing panels and wing spars were loaded into assembly tooling in Everett, WA late last week, marking the official commencement of assembly for Boeing's next generation 747-8 freighter.

According to Boeing, 90% of the design of the 747-8F has been released for fabrication. The remaining 10% stems from the design of key sections of the fuselage, which according to senior a program source, is a central pacing item for the program.

In addition, Vought Aircraft Industries, a long time 747 program supplier, announced yesterday in its second quarter earnings call that it had shipped the first floor beams to Boeing for the aircraft.

Rollout of the 1420th 747 is expected to take place in February, nearly coinciding with the 40th anniversary of the first 747-100 flight in 1969.

The 747-8 family, which includes a passenger and freighter variant, is 18.4 feet longer than its 747-400 predecessor and is powered by four General Electric GEnx-2b67 engines.

Final assembly of the first 747 will take place in Building 40-22 in the Everett facility, where the first 747 RA001 was assembled in 1968.

Launch customer Cargolux is expected to take delivery of the first 747-8F in the third quarter of 2009, following flight testing and certification of the new freighter.

A total of 105 next generation 747s have been ordered. The freighter variant has garnered 78 orders and the passenger variant 27. Lufthansa is currently the only airline customer to date with a firm order for 20. Seven BBJ 747-8s have been ordered by VIP customers.'


Sounds good, things are progressing at last, 787 seems to be on track too, busy times for Boeing.

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User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6570 posts, RR: 50
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 14710 times:

Great to see the new "Queen of the Skies" slowly starting to take shape. I cannot wait to see this one roll out.

User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 14694 times:

I cannot wait to see the BEAUTY fly... bigthumbsup 

Boeing 747-8F Production Begins



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User currently offlinePnwtraveler From Canada, joined Jun 2007, 2243 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 14508 times:

"Queen of the Skies" is a marketing term and not acutally something defined and monitored by some accreditation body or something. Someone can argue up and down what it means and after the fact redefine it. However it all means nothing except one more way to foster the A vs. B battle. Since the 748 is related to the 747 if any aircraft is reasonable to be called it, it would be the 748. However, since it is just marketing prattle it really doesn't matter. The 747 was the Queen of the Skies. Think up something new for the A380 and maybe even the B748, afterall it is just marketing prattle.

User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7496 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 14519 times:



Quoting LHRlocal (Thread starter):
Seven BBJ 747-8s have been ordered by VIP customers.'

Looking forward to seeing these beauties all painted up!



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User currently offlineBingo From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 359 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 14503 times:



Quoting LHRlocal (Thread starter):
Rollout of the 1420th 747 is expected to take place in February, nearly coinciding with the 40th anniversary of the first 747-100 flight in 1969.

I hope it will it roll out on the 40th anniversary and learn to fly before the 42nd anniversary...  crossfingers 


User currently offlinePetera380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 350 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 14395 times:
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As long as the roll out isn't an empty shell!  Big grin

User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39887 posts, RR: 74
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 14330 times:

This is great news!
I look forward to seeing the 747-800 go in to service and I am glad that Boeing will still have a 4-engine jet in their fleet.
I also look forward to the A380-900.  Cool
I like to see big 4-engine aircraft continue on for years to come.
I wish Airbus and Boeing lots of success with the A380 and 747 programs.

Sorry but I can't get excited about the 787 and A350s.  no 

Quoting Petera380 (Reply 9):
As long as the roll out isn't an empty shell!

 rotfl 

Awesome quote of the day! Big grin



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User currently offlineBoeingFever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 53
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 13678 times:

Didn't take long for this thread to crash and burn based on one A380 comment...  frown 

Anyways cool to see that Boeing is starting up production. I assume CV is to take delivery of the first 748F.



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User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31008 posts, RR: 86
Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 13163 times:
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Quoting Pnwtraveler (Reply 3):
Think up something new for the A380 and maybe even the B748, afterall it is just marketing prattle.

While the term "Queen of the Skies" first came into use with the 747-100, it carried on through subsequent models, so no reason it should not continue to be applied to the latest.

As for the A380-800, I have always referred to her as "The Empress".


User currently offlineTdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 79
Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 4 days ago) and read 12654 times:



Quoting Superfly (Reply 7):
I look forward to seeing the 747-800 go in to service and I am glad that Boeing will still have a 4-engine jet in their fleet.

Technically, it's a 747-8. There's no such aircraft as a 747-800.

Tom.


User currently offlineKennyK From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 482 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 4 days ago) and read 12314 times:

And there was I thinking the 748 was an old Avro twin-prop, nice to think of it as the 'Queen of the Skies' but I think something like the 747 should have that title  innocent 

User currently offlineNomadd22 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1866 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 11485 times:

Is the first -8 just following the last -400 or will they need to do some major work refitting the assembly line?

I thought Zvezda already came up with a name for the 380...



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User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31008 posts, RR: 86
Reply 13, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 11465 times:
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Quoting Nomadd22 (Reply 13):
Is the first -8 just following the last -400 or will they need to do some major work refitting the assembly line?

Boeing will need to reconfigure the 747 assembly line to accommodate the 747-8 family, so there will be some "downtime" between the roll-out of the last 747-400F and the first 747-8F.

[Edited 2008-08-13 18:11:02]

User currently offlineTISTPAA727 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 328 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 6768 times:
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Quoting Pnwtraveler (Reply 3):
"Queen of the Skies" is a marketing term and not actually something defined and monitored by some accreditation body or something

No one ever said it was anything more. The 747 family has been affectionately known as "Queen of the Skies" since this marketing term has been used to promote it. There is no reason to attack the OP for using a commonly accepted term to describe the 747.

Now that my rant for Pnwtravler's rude comments is over....

Definitely exciting news and cannot wait to see this Queen of the Skies take flight!!



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User currently offlineDABZF From Germany, joined Mar 2004, 1201 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 6255 times:

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but has a freighter version previously preceded a pax version of any airliner or version of one?


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User currently offlineDIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 27
Reply 16, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 5930 times:



Quoting Stitch (Reply 9):
As for the A380-800, I have always referred to her as "The Empress".

I just had a flashback to a CPAir jet.  Smile

Quoting Pnwtraveler (Reply 3):
"Queen of the Skies" is a marketing term and not acutally something defined and monitored by some accreditation body or something.

Right. Anyhow, I need a cup of joe, so I'll just hop in my pony car and go get it...



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User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31008 posts, RR: 86
Reply 17, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 5875 times:
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Quoting DABZF (Reply 15):
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but has a freighter version previously preceded a pax version of any airliner or version of one?

Not that I can think of off the top of my head...


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5763 posts, RR: 47
Reply 18, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 5343 times:

Here's an article with pics of the wing spar being loaded in the tooling jig.

[Edited 2008-08-14 08:04:27]


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User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2708 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4217 times:



Quoting LHRlocal (Thread starter):
Rollout of the 1420th 747 is expected to take place in February, nearly coinciding with the 40th anniversary of the first 747-100 flight in 1969.

Will that be the last 747-400F?

Quoting Stitch (Reply 13):
Boeing will need to reconfigure the 747 assembly line to accommodate the 747-8 family, so there will be some "downtime" between the roll-out of the last 747-400F and the first 747-8F.

If the above question is a no, when will the last 747-400F roll-out and who does it go to?


User currently offlineJcf5002 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 289 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4118 times:

Quoting Pnwtraveler (Reply 3):
"Queen of the Skies" is a marketing term and not acutally something defined and monitored by some accreditation body or something. Someone can argue up and down what it means and after the fact redefine it. However it all means nothing except one more way to foster the A vs. B battle. Since the 748 is related to the 747 if any aircraft is reasonable to be called it, it would be the 748. However, since it is just marketing prattle it really doesn't matter. The 747 was the Queen of the Skies. Think up something new for the A380 and maybe even the B748, afterall it is just marketing prattle.

I'll say it since no one else really has, and I know everyone wants to, but...

What are you talking about?

[Edited 2008-08-14 10:21:49]


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User currently offlineRikkus67 From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 1647 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3983 times:



Quoting DIA (Reply 16):
I just had a flashback to a CPAir jet.

oh, to see this colourscheme gracing the skies again... *sigh*


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User currently offlineEarlyNFF From Germany, joined Sep 2007, 233 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3157 times:



Quoting United787 (Reply 19):
Will that be the last 747-400F?

No, it is the first 747-8F

Quoting United787 (Reply 19):
If the above question is a no, when will the last 747-400F roll-out and who does it go to?

Roll-out around year´s end, goes to Loadair Kuwait.


User currently offlineHamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2744 posts, RR: 58
Reply 23, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2888 times:



Quoting DABZF (Reply 15):
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but has a freighter version previously preceded a pax version of any airliner or version of one?

Hard to say. The first MD-11 built, l/n 447, was eventually a freighter destined for FedEx. But was it built that way?
The first MD-11 delivered was l/n 455, which was delivered to Finnair five months before FedEx got their first first frame.

So I guess the answer could be yes and no.


Regards,

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User currently offlineSEPilot From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 6910 posts, RR: 46
Reply 24, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2751 times:



Quoting DABZF (Reply 15):
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but has a freighter version previously preceded a pax version of any airliner or version of one?

No other airliner had a freighter version designed and launched before the passenger version. There is reason for this; and it goes back to Joe Sutter's foresight. When the original 747 was being designed, the SST was also in development. Everyone assumed that the SST was the wave of the future, and Joe Sutter wanted to be sure that his plane would also have a future, so he figured that it would haul passengers for a few years and then become a freighter. So he really designed it to be a freighter that would have seats in it. As we know, the SST crashed and burned (apologies to the Concorde) and the 747 soldiered on as the Queen of the Skies far longer than anyone expected. But now the A380 is taking over the crown as the premium passenger carrier, and Joe Sutter's foresight is paying off. The A380 will always be a poor freighter, but the 747 excels. Therefore the latest iteration of the 747 passenger plane has met with a less than lukewarm reception, but the freighter is doing well and will continue to do well until something better comes along, which may be a very long time. The fundamental fact is that planes designed as passenger planes do not automatically make the best freighters, and the 747 is the only civil plane in history to have been designed from the start to be optimized as a freighter.



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25 EPA001 : @ SEPilot: That is a very good summary you wrote about the B747. As always, vision pays off it this vision is developed and produced correctly. If not
26 RIX : - that's hardly a summary of SST history. It would be if the whole idea was abandoned after, say, "crash and burn" of Tu144 in 1973, but there were 2
27 Stitch : Well it was 26 years of service by two carriers on (mostly) two routes with a dozen planes. Not exactly the grand dream those in the 1950's and 1960's
28 RIX : - not exactly "crash and burn" (let's stick with the original argument ). - questionable. I don't know why those who bought VLA since 380 was launche
29 SEPilot : My point was that the SST did not take over international travel, which everyone expected would happen in the 60's. The expectation was clearly that
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