An engine shut down on an antiquated member of their fleet, I don't think it's that small a deal. About 3 or 4 other maintenance issues were included in the bulletin which also appeared on a news channel on tv in Australia. People can that this happens all over the world every day, which I'm sure it does, but it's not usually confined to one airline. People say that this is purely media bashing, but this is a ridiculous amount of maintenance-related aircraft problems for the period of time they have occurred in.
Francoflier From France, joined Oct 2001, 4136 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 20013 times:
Quoting Jokestar (Reply 6): People can that this happens all over the world every day, which I'm sure it does, but it's not usually confined to one airline. People say that this is purely media bashing, but this is a ridiculous amount of maintenance-related aircraft problems for the period of time they have occurred in.
The main, and original, QF issue was the explosion that led to a decompression after taking off from HKG.
The media were then waiting with a big mallet for anything to happen at Qantas to follow up and try to make up a story that wasn't there, like a big game of 'Whack-a-Mole'...
Quite honestly, all of the subsequent issues on which they preyed, including this IFSD, pretty much correspond to the normal amount and frequency of tech issues that would happen (and do happen) in that timeframe to any other airline in the world operating that kind of fleet.
I don't know if there is a cause for concern with maintenance at QF or not, but as an outside observer, this certainly wouldn't tell me anything.
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit posting...
Arcrftlvr From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 826 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 17436 times:
'the pilot managed to land the aircraft with 219 passengers and 16 crew safely'
I like this quote in particular. It conjures up an image of the PF wrestling with the controls in order to safely land the aircraft. So, the pilot 'managed' to land the aircraft safely with three (3) of the four (4) engines operating as normal? Wow. What would be said if the pilot landed with one (1) engine inop and a galley cart with a broken wheel: 'Plane escapes near- disaster!'
Jokestar From Australia, joined Apr 2008, 123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 13324 times:
Quoting N104UA (Reply 14): why was a 743 flying MEL-AKL I thought they only went SYD-PER and MEL-PER
No, due to other aircraft shortages, they are sending them all over the place. It's on QF25 3 days a week until October and occasionally to HKG and other places. It does still do the SYD-PER-SYD runs but it is intermittently swapped for A330s. My dad is flying PER-SYD on a 743 today, but he was meant to be on an A333 from SYD-PER on Wednesday, however it was swapped for a 332, which must have sucked, because he was in J.
F9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 5345 posts, RR: 16
Reply 17, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 12236 times:
I can't believe that even made the news! That is such a minor incident, that even wasting the time by the media to put that out is pathetic. Don't they have anyone else to pick on? There was obviously no danger at all, and everything turned out fine. Nobody would have even noticed it in the first place. Give Qantas a break already!
AndrewUber From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2528 posts, RR: 38
Reply 19, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 11169 times:
Once a fairly significant incident happens with an airline, the media sensationalizes every single event thereafter. Tomorrow's news experts will likely run a story such as "Qantas Airbus 737 Jumbo Jet landing light burns out, resulting in a 'terror plunge' for 100 horrified passengers"
VHECA From Australia, joined May 2007, 284 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 10820 times:
IMHO, what Qantas or indeed, CASA, needs to do is get a person of some notable authority, and bloody good presence with the media to explain to people that most of these " events" are awfully scary to the lay man, they are more often than not, a minor event in the world of aviation. Not withstanding that they should not be happening, but these things do go wrong from time to time on a piece of machinery with so many parts, ends, sides etc.
Just an idea to settle this all down a bit, me thinks!
Zkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 5060 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 10256 times:
Quoting N104UA (Reply 14): why was a 743 flying MEL-AKL I thought they only went SYD-PER and MEL-PER
They fly MEL-AKL-LAX-AKL-MEL 3x weekly with A332 operating the other 4x weekly service.
They also fly MEL-PER-SYD return however lately most of the MEL/PER sectors have been replaced with domestic configured A332 and other services upgraded from 737 to 767 (if you call that an upgrade...upsized perhaps). By the end of the year MEL-PER-SYD services will be run by A332 and the 743s will be gone...
MEL-AKL-LAX will revert to usual 744 2 class service however the A332 may stay on 3-4x weekly if loads are light or if it works better for QF.
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: My home airport is BNA and I have personally witnessed quite a few "emergency" landing in my time at the airport and I am not there that often.
: You probably do not need to call for nominations, we already have a winner! You just beat me to ANstar. With the number of incidents it is getting cl
: Hmmm... Hole in 747 Fleet grounded x2 Emergency landings Hydraulic leaks Engine shut down/s Panels falling off Landing gear issues Irregularities in m
: Once again the armchair heroes of A.net are claiming that no incident can be serious, and that the media has NO idea what it's talking about. Oh yeah,
: Anyone care to comment on the relative seriousness of the current run of Qantas incidents compared with those that saw Ansett grounded by CASA?
: I think most people on here would admit that the QF30 incident was serious... (in fact it is the most serious incident to happen to a 744 aircraft wi
: Absolutely! The media is just sitting there awaiting the next "flight disaster" in order to enhance their ratings. That's natural in their world of r
: Qantas flight delayed 15 hours Qantas has been forced to delay a Sydney-bound flight from London by more than 15 hours because of a problem with the p
: That makes it Hole in 747 Fleet grounded x2 Emergency landings Hydraulic leaks x3 Engine shut down/s Panels falling off Landing gear issues Irregulari
: Unscheduled toilet stop adds to Qantas woes The run of bad luck afflicting Qantas took a graphic turn last night when a fully loaded 767 flying from S
: Made my day. I was sure you were joking until I followed the link and double checked that it is not April 1 !!!
: Amazing all three at one time,unless it got airborne with some u/s in the 1st place. regds MEL
: Even better, it set off from HAWAII as a 737-300 and had inflated to the size of a 767 by the time the incident was reported. Qantas really does have
: Where can I get a 737 that does that? And didn't QF retire their 743s a while ago? Guess not... Anyway, the 743 story's got to be the biggest story t
: What on earth are you talking about?
: But you have to consider the possibility that this inflation only occurs when the toilets are blocked, and I will not spell out further implications
: Can you give me a single example of another airline with a spate of maointainance related issues like QF has had in the last month? Nonsense. It does
: Not to mention that on Friday night (15th) a set of stairs cut open the bottom of the #4 engine aboard VH-EBX when the aircraft dropped due to fuellin
: Qantas jet returns to Perth after loos run dry Braden Quartermaine, business editor August 20, 2008 08:20pm QANTAS has suffered another embarrassment
: Grounded passengers in limbo Erik Jensen August 20, 2008 - 6:43PM Qantas passengers grounded in Perth this morning are still trapped at the airport -
: The list keeps growing... Hole in 747 Fleet grounded x2 Emergency landings Hydraulic leaks x3 Engine shut down/s Panels falling off Landing gear issue
: Well, its conceivable that QF top management may be putting together a plan to stop the hemorrhaging, but to do that you've got to realise that there
: Qantas engine fault delays London-bound flight Qantas has dealt with yet another aircraft issue which has delayed a flight for almost a day. The airli
: Qantas flight 31 has diverted to somewhere in Germany. Tonight's QF 2 appears cancelled. More soon.
: The Boeing 747-400 aircraft, carrying a Qantas flight crew and 350 passengers, landed at Frankfurt en route to London on Sunday afternoon (AEST) "due
: I'm torn, I don't know if I'm more irritated with the media and their overintensive coverage of an airline and their day to day operations which now s
: Notice the media never gets the Aviation experts to comment regds MEL
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: The thing is it isn't just the media. I can think at least a couple of commercial aircraft engineers off the top of my head that have expressed concer
: Media scrutiny of the aviation industry is inevitable. Few industries involve people literally putting their life into someone else's hands as much as
: I'm being sarcastic, though, admittedly, I worded it weirdly. Sorry.
: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...ory/0,25197,24274725-23349,00.html Outcome of CASA review.... Not positive news for QF
: Not unless CASA is now owned by Rupert (Murdoch). - Well he did partially own Ansett at one stage. I wonder who Qantas will put forward to explain th
: I welcome these CASA safety audits of Qantas, especially during these times of high financial pressures. In addition to any deficient maintenance prac
: People would argue with that statement. Many of your own Airline crew whom fly on us say our product beats NZ's hands down...However i actually quite
: Would it really be that hard for the AP to find an actual picture of a 747? I figure they'd have a more extensive stock footage vault than that.
: The first reaction I heard from QANTAS was not a good look, putting the blame on the engineers. It might be true in part but the first place to start
: While airlines regularly have issues with their toilets, and have the odd IFSD, QF have had two major incidents in 2008 to date that could conceivably
: Agree totally... Although i know Qantas has top notch crew training and there is also a question of media sensationalism... the number of mx issues i
: What jobs do Qantas outsource in Mx & what do they do in house? regds MEL...
: I don't work at check in. I used to in the past. It's nothing official that I've read, although I'm fully aware of what is in the cabin log - you not
: Hey Aerorob, It wasnt a direct attack on you...thanks for clearing that up. I know people from QF lurk on these forums...aswell as Flyertalk. Kind Re
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