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Another Qantas Incident!  
User currently offlineAirJamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2514 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 20047 times:

Another Qantas incident:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080814/ap_on_re_au_an/new_zealand_qantas

[Edited 2008-08-14 01:31:44]


greenheart
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User currently offlineTruemanQLD From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 1521 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 20050 times:

ahh seems like another drama for Today Tonight

User currently offlineTayser From Australia, joined Mar 2008, 1128 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 20042 times:

Can we just create one large thread for all the QF media beat ups?

User currently offlineVivekman2006 From India, joined May 2006, 536 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 20027 times:

Maybe Qantas needs to sacrifice a lamb or something similar to what Royal Nepal Airlines did some time ago   

Good to hear that the 747 landed safely without any problem!  Smile

[Edited 2008-08-14 01:38:05]

User currently offlineAirJamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2514 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 19923 times:



Quoting Tayser (Reply 2):
Can we just create one large thread for all the QF media beat ups?

Does Qantas outsource their maintenance ?



greenheart
User currently offlineJoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2237 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 week ago) and read 19798 times:

What's next, Qantas refueled its aircraft?  Wow!

It must be a slow news day in New Zealand...



Kafa, čaj, šraf?
User currently offlineJokestar From Australia, joined Apr 2008, 123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 19678 times:



Quoting JoKeR (Reply 5):
What's next, Qantas refueled its aircraft? Wow!

It must be a slow news day in New Zealand...

An engine shut down on an antiquated member of their fleet, I don't think it's that small a deal. About 3 or 4 other maintenance issues were included in the bulletin which also appeared on a news channel on tv in Australia. People can that this happens all over the world every day, which I'm sure it does, but it's not usually confined to one airline. People say that this is purely media bashing, but this is a ridiculous amount of maintenance-related aircraft problems for the period of time they have occurred in.


User currently offlineSketty222 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 1778 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (6 years 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 19630 times:

Breaking news..... A Qantas flight has taken off from Sydney ............ Big grin

How much do the media want to bash QF at the moment? Its not as if there isnt any other news to report on.



There's flying and then there's flying
User currently offlineFrancoflier From France, joined Oct 2001, 3741 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (6 years 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 19632 times:



Quoting Jokestar (Reply 6):
People can that this happens all over the world every day, which I'm sure it does, but it's not usually confined to one airline. People say that this is purely media bashing, but this is a ridiculous amount of maintenance-related aircraft problems for the period of time they have occurred in.

The main, and original, QF issue was the explosion that led to a decompression after taking off from HKG.

The media were then waiting with a big mallet for anything to happen at Qantas to follow up and try to make up a story that wasn't there, like a big game of 'Whack-a-Mole'...

Quite honestly, all of the subsequent issues on which they preyed, including this IFSD, pretty much correspond to the normal amount and frequency of tech issues that would happen (and do happen) in that timeframe to any other airline in the world operating that kind of fleet.

I don't know if there is a cause for concern with maintenance at QF or not, but as an outside observer, this certainly wouldn't tell me anything.



Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit posting...
User currently offlineArcrftlvr From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 826 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 17055 times:

'the pilot managed to land the aircraft with 219 passengers and 16 crew safely'

I like this quote in particular. It conjures up an image of the PF wrestling with the controls in order to safely land the aircraft. So, the pilot 'managed' to land the aircraft safely with three (3) of the four (4) engines operating as normal? Wow. What would be said if the pilot landed with one (1) engine inop and a galley cart with a broken wheel: 'Plane escapes near- disaster!'


User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10677 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (6 years 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 16673 times:

A none-event. Happens everyday. Its just "news" because its QF.

Btw, how is the 744 doing which had the oxygen bottle explosion last month? Is it under repair now or are they still investigating?


User currently offlineTheginge From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 1132 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 16591 times:

Obviously the pilot wrestled with the controls and missed the school and hospital near the airport!!!

User currently offlineOsiris30 From Barbados, joined Sep 2006, 3192 posts, RR: 25
Reply 12, posted (6 years 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 16185 times:



Quoting Arcrftlvr (Reply 9):
What would be said if the pilot landed with one (1) engine inop and a galley cart with a broken wheel: 'Plane escapes near- disaster!'

Hey now.. that gallery cart could have been dangerous!!!!



I don't care what you think of my opinion. It's my opinion, so have a nice day :)
User currently offlineBY188B From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 709 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 15760 times:

he he, well at least nobody knows about the emergency landing at LHR yesterday when a QF flight suffered a hydraulic failure.  shhh 


next flights : BD LHR-TXL J, FR SXF-STN Y, SN BRU-LHR Y, MA LHR-BUD Y, BA BUD-LHR J, BA LCY-SNN-JFK J, BA JFK-LHR J, BA
User currently offlineN104UA From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 904 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 13189 times:

why was a 743 flying MEL-AKL I thought they only went SYD-PER and MEL-PER


"Learn the rules, so you know how to break them properly." -H.H. The Dalai Lama
User currently offlineJokestar From Australia, joined Apr 2008, 123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 12943 times:



Quoting N104UA (Reply 14):
why was a 743 flying MEL-AKL I thought they only went SYD-PER and MEL-PER

No, due to other aircraft shortages, they are sending them all over the place. It's on QF25 3 days a week until October and occasionally to HKG and other places. It does still do the SYD-PER-SYD runs but it is intermittently swapped for A330s. My dad is flying PER-SYD on a 743 today, but he was meant to be on an A333 from SYD-PER on Wednesday, however it was swapped for a 332, which must have sucked, because he was in J.


User currently offlineLazybones From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 170 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 12644 times:

A 747 lands with one engine idle, they call this news!!

I would consider a international flight running out of alcohol & coffee to more a serious disaster Big grin

Quoting Theginge (Reply 11):
Obviously the pilot wrestled with the controls and missed the school and hospital near the airport!!!

I think your onto something here, maybe we should start a new thread on "Predicting the next news headline for a Qantas jet"  Smile

How about "Qantas captain diverts new A380 superjumbo carring 4392 passengers because his first officer refused to pull his finger without his oxygen mask on"


User currently offlineF9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 5025 posts, RR: 28
Reply 17, posted (6 years 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 11855 times:

I can't believe that even made the news! That is such a minor incident, that even wasting the time by the media to put that out is pathetic. Don't they have anyone else to pick on? There was obviously no danger at all, and everything turned out fine. Nobody would have even noticed it in the first place. Give Qantas a break already!


I Am A Different Animal!!
User currently offlineANstar From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 5186 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (6 years 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 11403 times:

Todays QF incidents....

- Panel falls off Qantas plane in Singapore
- 767 closes part of Sydney runway due to Hydraulic leak

http://www.smh.com.au/news/news/pane...lane/2008/08/15/1218307183980.html


User currently offlineAndrewUber From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2528 posts, RR: 40
Reply 19, posted (6 years 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 10788 times:

Once a fairly significant incident happens with an airline, the media sensationalizes every single event thereafter. Tomorrow's news experts will likely run a story such as "Qantas Airbus 737 Jumbo Jet landing light burns out, resulting in a 'terror plunge' for 100 horrified passengers"  sarcastic 


I'd rather shoot BAD_MOTIVE
User currently offlineWarren747sp From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1156 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 10570 times:

Perhaps they are introducing too many types of planes into their fleet now. It use to be all Boeing and the safest airline in the world.


747SP
User currently offlineVHECA From Australia, joined May 2007, 262 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 10439 times:

IMHO, what Qantas or indeed, CASA, needs to do is get a person of some notable authority, and bloody good presence with the media to explain to people that most of these " events" are awfully scary to the lay man, they are more often than not, a minor event in the world of aviation. Not withstanding that they should not be happening, but these things do go wrong from time to time on a piece of machinery with so many parts, ends, sides etc.

Just an idea to settle this all down a bit, me thinks!

Cheers

VHECA



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User currently offlineANstar From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 5186 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (6 years 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 10247 times:



Quoting Warren747sp (Reply 20):
Perhaps they are introducing too many types of planes into their fleet now. It use to be all Boeing and the safest airline in the world.

I dont think aircraft types are the issue - anyway the problems recently have all been witht he Boeings.... so with that arguement they should be all airbus.


User currently offlineLazybones From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 170 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 9978 times:



Quoting VHECA (Reply 21):
Perhaps they are introducing too many types of planes into their fleet now. It use to be all Boeing and the safest airline in the world.

Or maybe Mr Dixon who keeps threatening to send maintenance jobs overseas is affecting moral. It seems to be his answer to everything.


User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4817 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (6 years 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 9875 times:



Quoting N104UA (Reply 14):
why was a 743 flying MEL-AKL I thought they only went SYD-PER and MEL-PER

They fly MEL-AKL-LAX-AKL-MEL 3x weekly with A332 operating the other 4x weekly service.
They also fly MEL-PER-SYD return however lately most of the MEL/PER sectors have been replaced with domestic configured A332 and other services upgraded from 737 to 767 (if you call that an upgrade...upsized perhaps). By the end of the year MEL-PER-SYD services will be run by A332 and the 743s will be gone...
MEL-AKL-LAX will revert to usual 744 2 class service however the A332 may stay on 3-4x weekly if loads are light or if it works better for QF.



56 types. 38 countries. 24 airlines.
25 Paulinbna : My home airport is BNA and I have personally witnessed quite a few "emergency" landing in my time at the airport and I am not there that often.
26 Baroque : You probably do not need to call for nominations, we already have a winner! You just beat me to ANstar. With the number of incidents it is getting cl
27 Maxisno1 : Hmmm... Hole in 747 Fleet grounded x2 Emergency landings Hydraulic leaks Engine shut down/s Panels falling off Landing gear issues Irregularities in m
28 Jawed : Once again the armchair heroes of A.net are claiming that no incident can be serious, and that the media has NO idea what it's talking about. Oh yeah,
29 Macilree : Anyone care to comment on the relative seriousness of the current run of Qantas incidents compared with those that saw Ansett grounded by CASA?
30 Zkpilot : I think most people on here would admit that the QF30 incident was serious... (in fact it is the most serious incident to happen to a 744 aircraft wi
31 Cubastar : Absolutely! The media is just sitting there awaiting the next "flight disaster" in order to enhance their ratings. That's natural in their world of r
32 Post contains links SInGAPORE_AIR : Qantas flight delayed 15 hours Qantas has been forced to delay a Sydney-bound flight from London by more than 15 hours because of a problem with the p
33 Maxisno1 : That makes it Hole in 747 Fleet grounded x2 Emergency landings Hydraulic leaks x3 Engine shut down/s Panels falling off Landing gear issues Irregulari
34 Post contains links Singapore_Air : Unscheduled toilet stop adds to Qantas woes The run of bad luck afflicting Qantas took a graphic turn last night when a fully loaded 767 flying from S
35 Enginebird : Made my day. I was sure you were joking until I followed the link and double checked that it is not April 1 !!!
36 HAWK21M : Amazing all three at one time,unless it got airborne with some u/s in the 1st place. regds MEL
37 Baroque : Even better, it set off from HAWAII as a 737-300 and had inflated to the size of a 767 by the time the incident was reported. Qantas really does have
38 UltimateDelta : Where can I get a 737 that does that? And didn't QF retire their 743s a while ago? Guess not... Anyway, the 743 story's got to be the biggest story t
39 Maxisno1 : What on earth are you talking about?
40 Baroque : But you have to consider the possibility that this inflation only occurs when the toilets are blocked, and I will not spell out further implications
41 Boeing747_600 : Can you give me a single example of another airline with a spate of maointainance related issues like QF has had in the last month? Nonsense. It does
42 AerorobNZ : Not to mention that on Friday night (15th) a set of stairs cut open the bottom of the #4 engine aboard VH-EBX when the aircraft dropped due to fuellin
43 Post contains links SInGAPORE_AIR : Qantas jet returns to Perth after loos run dry Braden Quartermaine, business editor August 20, 2008 08:20pm QANTAS has suffered another embarrassment
44 Post contains links SInGAPORE_AIR : Grounded passengers in limbo Erik Jensen August 20, 2008 - 6:43PM Qantas passengers grounded in Perth this morning are still trapped at the airport -
45 Maxisno1 : The list keeps growing... Hole in 747 Fleet grounded x2 Emergency landings Hydraulic leaks x3 Engine shut down/s Panels falling off Landing gear issue
46 Boeing747_600 : Well, its conceivable that QF top management may be putting together a plan to stop the hemorrhaging, but to do that you've got to realise that there
47 Post contains links Singapore_Air : Qantas engine fault delays London-bound flight Qantas has dealt with yet another aircraft issue which has delayed a flight for almost a day. The airli
48 SInGAPORE_AIR : Qantas flight 31 has diverted to somewhere in Germany. Tonight's QF 2 appears cancelled. More soon.
49 Post contains links Singapore_Air : The Boeing 747-400 aircraft, carrying a Qantas flight crew and 350 passengers, landed at Frankfurt en route to London on Sunday afternoon (AEST) "due
50 Flyboy7974 : I'm torn, I don't know if I'm more irritated with the media and their overintensive coverage of an airline and their day to day operations which now s
51 HAWK21M : Notice the media never gets the Aviation experts to comment regds MEL
52 Post contains links SInGAPORE_AIR : Qantas passengers furious after latest incident But Mr Negline says he has been waiting for over three hours with others for the new flight. "Absolute
53 Post contains links SInGAPORE_AIR : Airline's Horror Streak Continues QANTAS'S publicity nightmare continued today with engineering faults grounding two planes at the same time at opposi
54 AerorobNZ : The thing is it isn't just the media. I can think at least a couple of commercial aircraft engineers off the top of my head that have expressed concer
55 MilesDependent : Media scrutiny of the aviation industry is inevitable. Few industries involve people literally putting their life into someone else's hands as much as
56 UltimateDelta : I'm being sarcastic, though, admittedly, I worded it weirdly. Sorry.
57 Post contains links Nicholaschee : http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...ory/0,25197,24274725-23349,00.html Outcome of CASA review.... Not positive news for QF
58 Baroque : Not unless CASA is now owned by Rupert (Murdoch). - Well he did partially own Ansett at one stage. I wonder who Qantas will put forward to explain th
59 Allrite : I welcome these CASA safety audits of Qantas, especially during these times of high financial pressures. In addition to any deficient maintenance prac
60 Airnewzealand : People would argue with that statement. Many of your own Airline crew whom fly on us say our product beats NZ's hands down...However i actually quite
61 Triebwerk : Would it really be that hard for the AP to find an actual picture of a 747? I figure they'd have a more extensive stock footage vault than that.
62 Baroque : The first reaction I heard from QANTAS was not a good look, putting the blame on the engineers. It might be true in part but the first place to start
63 Knid : While airlines regularly have issues with their toilets, and have the odd IFSD, QF have had two major incidents in 2008 to date that could conceivably
64 SKAirbus : Agree totally... Although i know Qantas has top notch crew training and there is also a question of media sensationalism... the number of mx issues i
65 HAWK21M : What jobs do Qantas outsource in Mx & what do they do in house? regds MEL...
66 AerorobNZ : I don't work at check in. I used to in the past. It's nothing official that I've read, although I'm fully aware of what is in the cabin log - you not
67 Airnewzealand : Hey Aerorob, It wasnt a direct attack on you...thanks for clearing that up. I know people from QF lurk on these forums...aswell as Flyertalk. Kind Re
68 Post contains links Singapore_Air : Electrical fault delays Qantas flight Qantas flight QF175 was due to depart Brisbane for Los Angeles at 11am (AEST). However, due to a suspected elect
69 Post contains links SInGAPORE_AIR : Qantas flight forced back to Brisbane A Qantas flight from Brisbane to Sydney last night became the latest to be affected by mechanical failures, with
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