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Finnish Aviation Thread Vol 8!  
User currently offlineOkAY From Finland, joined Dec 2006, 669 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1849 times:

As no one else seemed to be starting a new thread to continue the talks about aviation in Finland, I shall do it then  Smile

So, here we go  Smile

I would like to ask if anyone has any idea how the new AY Seoul route is doing? I know it is a bit early to really say anything about the successfulness of the route, but I was just wondering what have the loads been like since it started.

I also heard AY is recruiting more cabin crew, though the company is going through some hard times. I guess this is to prepare the crewing for the new long haul a/c arriving next year. Is the A333 next one to arrive?

Anyone been able to catch the A340 in ONEWORLD livery? I'd like to see a good picture of it.

Unfortunately next time I will be getting on an AY bird coming to HEL from Paris, it wont be the retro bird. Was a bit dissappointed! It seems on the 1st of September the plane is not operating any flight, according to the timetable found on AY's website. Anyone been lucky enough to get on this bird?

okAY

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User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 1, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1840 times:



Quoting OkAY (Thread starter):

Thanks for opening a new one!

Quoting OkAY (Thread starter):
Anyone been able to catch the A340 in ONEWORLD livery? I'd like to see a good picture of it.

Has anyone got a pic?

Quoting OkAY (Thread starter):
retro bird

I have travelled OH-LVE 3 times on my last 3 trips so I hope I will be on it the next time I travel!  Smile


User currently offlineLordHowe From Finland, joined Jan 2003, 728 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1779 times:



Quoting OkAY (Thread starter):
As no one else seemed to be starting a new thread to continue the talks about aviation in Finland, I shall do it then

Thanks OkAY!

Best regards,
LordHowe



Lord Howe Island - The Last Paradise
User currently offlineUpperDeck79 From Finland, joined Feb 2005, 1139 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1757 times:



Quoting OkAY (Thread starter):
As no one else seemed to be starting a new thread to continue the talks about aviation in Finland, I shall do it then

Someone always seems to hijack the next volume from me before we hit the 200 message mark... Wink



AY and ANA rock!
User currently offlinePetteri From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 281 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1749 times:

Is Finnair planning on being a major partner in this new "beefed up" alliance?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7560790.stm

I wonder how this plays into the North American expansion that they have mentioned, and now are backing off of?

BTW: Still no indication here in FLL that Finnair is coming....



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User currently offlineUpperDeck79 From Finland, joined Feb 2005, 1139 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1741 times:



Quoting Petteri (Reply 7):
Is Finnair planning on being a major partner in this new "beefed up" alliance?

Nope.

Quoting Petteri (Reply 7):
BTW: Still no indication here in FLL that Finnair is coming....

It's only a charter flight flying Finns to Florida, why would it show in any way in FLL?



AY and ANA rock!
User currently offlineOkAY From Finland, joined Dec 2006, 669 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1732 times:



Quoting UpperDeck79 (Reply 6):

kjäh kjäh....  Smile

Quoting LordHowe (Reply 5):

My pleasure, I have been a member for quite some time, but this was the first ever thread I "started", how exciting lol!

Quoting FlyingAY (Reply 1):
Are you sure? I think AY lists only the special retro flights (with retro check-in and retro FAs), but the plane itself is actually doing much more flights with normal cabin crew though.

So I still have some hope! Though, I would prefer to have the whole retro experience!

Quoting Petteri (Reply 7):
I wonder how this plays into the North American expansion that they have mentioned, and now are backing off of?

BTW: Still no indication here in FLL that Finnair is coming....

That we shall see, as I was wondering earlier on, it shall be interesting to see what AY decides to do regarding merges/alliances etc. in the future.

Isn't FLL going to be a charter destination? With 752 fleet?

okAY


User currently offlinePetteri From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 281 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1719 times:



Quoting UpperDeck79 (Reply 8):
It's only a charter flight flying Finns to Florida, why would it show in any way in FLL?

Well just a few weeks ago, the Broward County Commission, who runs the airport, has stated that they had not yet heard from Finnair about them using the airport. Plus with the airport people here making a big stink about attracting more trans-atlantic traffic, you would think that even a charter flight would get some love! We shall see...



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User currently offlineAndaman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1711 times:

Thanks for opening a new thread!

Quoting AY" class=quote target=_blank>OkAY (Reply 4):
Was sad to read about the plans of new US routes to be put on hold for the time being. Apparently it would just not be profitable (this I base on what AY CEO said on the Kauppalehti article a few days ago).

Actually I didn't see anything about US routes in the article, did I miss something? One A.netter explained you just have to read between the lines
According to AY earlier the window for their new US routes lies between 2007-2017 so still a lot can happen before that window closes. Of course they are careful starting anything new in the near future.

Quoting AY" class=quote target=_blank>OkAY (Reply 4):
I have also wondered what will be the future of AY

AY is not the only airline having troubles at the moment, hard to say much about the future in the aviation business anyway.
This year will be a sticky one for AY too but they still are in a relatively good shape. I think the years 2009-10 will tell a lot more, after the A333s have arrived, their HEL hub has got the face lift etc.
Anyway, it could well be AY end up to the BA family, thats my guess.

[Edited 2008-08-14 09:09:34]

User currently offlineTeme82 From Finland, joined Mar 2007, 1579 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 1698 times:
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Quoting Andaman (Reply 11):
One A.netter explained you just have to read between the lines

It was me ...  Wink


Yeah AY has now all reasons to pull some brakes on. The economical situation isn't looking so good and the high oil prize is one factor that causes reductions in the route table.



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User currently offlineAndaman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1673 times:



Quoting Andaman (Reply 8):
Anyway, it could well be AY end up to the BA family, thats my guess.

It seems they are taking a (little) step to that direction already. Both Finnair and Royal Jordanian were mentioned with the possible BA/AA/IB deal:

http://www.businessweek.com/globalbi...hives/2008/08/ba_american_and.html


User currently offlineTeme82 From Finland, joined Mar 2007, 1579 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1663 times:
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That Businessweek's article was interesting to read. So it seems now that AY won't add flights to us but they will have more code share flights with AA.  Smile


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