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Taca - New Livery?  
User currently offlineViasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1882 posts, RR: 6
Posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 23026 times:

TACA get soon it's first Embraer jet.

On the Brazilian homepage "Aero World News" are two pictures of the first Emb190 of TACA.

http://www.aeroworldnews.com.br/galeria.php?inicio=952&codgrupo=2 (no direct link to the picture, sorry).

I'm very surprised about that.

Martial

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User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6572 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 23017 times:

IMO, this was the best TA livery:


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Would be nice to see them go back to that...but of course it won't happen.


User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9856 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 22735 times:



Quoting Viasa (Thread starter):
I'm very surprised about that.

I'm also very surprised. Does anyone know when that DL ERJ170 will be on its deliveryflight and how it will fly to its final destination? Maybe via CUR?

A388


User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3971 posts, RR: 22
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 22688 times:

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 1):
IMO, this was the best TA livery:


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Would be nice to see them go back to that...but of course it won't happen.

I here ya bro. It was a sad back in the late 90s when TA dropped this stunning livery for the bland, lifeless design they now use. Perhaps we should mount a campaign to maybe persuade TA officials to bring back that 80s livery or a variation thereof.

Thomas

[Edited 2008-08-14 13:38:54]


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User currently offlineViasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1882 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 22484 times:



Quoting A388 (Reply 2):
Does anyone know when that DL ERJ170 will be on its deliveryflight

First one is already delivered: http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinqu...t=201JQ&cmndfind.x=14&cmndfind.y=2

btw: it's a EMB175...

Here is the picture:

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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9856 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 22261 times:



Quoting Viasa (Reply 4):
First one is already delivered: http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinqu...t=201JQ&cmndfind.x=14&cmndfind.y=2

btw: it's a EMB175...

Thanks Viasa, I saw it later on yes. Do you know how these DL ERJ175s are being delivered (via which airports)?

The picture you posted is of the first ERJ190 for TACA, not the DL ERJ175.

A388


User currently offlineSJOtoLIR From Costa Rica, joined Jul 2007, 4517 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 21989 times:

TA has previously signed an order to acquire 11 factory new E90s.
The first deliveries are expected throughout this year.




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Quoting Thomasphoto60 (Reply 3):
It was a sad back in the late 90s when TA dropped this stunning livery for the bland, lifeless design they now use

The former TA changed its original livery when the Central American airline merger occurred during the 90s: TACA [El Salvador], NICA [NIcaragua], AVIATECA [Guatemala] and LACSA [Costa Rica],

Regards.



"Goin' up to the spirit in the sky"
User currently offlineViasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1882 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 21758 times:

One new A320 is delivered in all white to TACA - so they paint this aircraft in SJO (I think).

User currently offlineSJOtoLIR From Costa Rica, joined Jul 2007, 4517 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 21645 times:



Quoting Viasa (Reply 7):
One new A320 is delivered in all white to TACA - so they paint this aircraft in SJO (I think).

Since the accident of the EI-TAF in Tegucigalpa on May 30th, they are received two brand new 320s:

A320-233.........Registered at: N499TA........Delivery date: June 06th 2008.
A320-233.........Registered at: N680TA........Delivery date: July 04th 2008.

I checked in other sources that both aircrafts have been painted in its current colour-scheme as they are operating into commercial service nowadays.
Probably, either the N681TA or the N682TA is the plane that you were referring for. They haven't yet delivered as I ignore their current status.

Regards.



"Goin' up to the spirit in the sky"
User currently offlineViasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1882 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 21531 times:

The newest one is N681TA (c/n 3577).

Was delivered 15th aug 2008 on the route TLS-KEF-YYZ-SAL. This plane is in all white and will be the first A320 in the new color of TACA.


User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5222 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 21503 times:

That scheme is awesome!!! Less boring... way to go TA!! Finally I'll have another reason to frequent MEX again to spot this new livery!!!

g77



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User currently offlineFlylot From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 187 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 21371 times:

From what I can see so far, it looks like a Crayola drawing I did in preschool.

My favorite scheme is there 90's scheme, even though it was awfully similar to Airbus Industrie 80's scheme.



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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9856 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 21343 times:



Quoting Viasa (Reply 9):
Was delivered 15th aug 2008 on the route TLS-KEF-YYZ-SAL.

How are you doing Viasa? Thank you for the delivery info of the new TACA A320. Do you also know how their ERJ190s will be flown on the delivery flights?

A388


User currently offlineAer From Guatemala, joined Mar 2004, 1048 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 21101 times:

Quick question, where will the macaw(s) go?


nice and spacious airports in need of new airlines and flights... GUA or FRS anyone?... anyone at all?
User currently offlineMt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6600 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 20968 times:
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Quoting Aer (Reply 13):
Quick question, where will the macaw(s) go?

I hope they don't got anywhere. But i hope the new livery is better than the current one. I never real liked it. Looked a bit on the cheapy... side... I mean please Golden Macaws - How Donald Trump -like,,,



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User currently offlineViasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1882 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 20675 times:

When will TACA display it's new corporate identity to the public?

User currently offlineSJOtoLIR From Costa Rica, joined Jul 2007, 4517 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (6 years 1 month 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 20442 times:



Quoting Viasa (Reply 15):
When will TACA display it's new corporate identity to the public?

According to the attached press release in Spanish and edited in El Salvador, TA will take delivery of its first new brand E90 on August 29th.
The first stage involves SJO, PTY and HAV as regular destinations with E90.

http://www.laprensagrafica.com/economia/1128466.asp

Regards.



"Goin' up to the spirit in the sky"
User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9856 posts, RR: 14
Reply 17, posted (6 years 1 month 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 20344 times:



Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 16):
first new brand E90 on August 29th.

How will these TA ERJ190s be flown to their homebase from the Embraer factory/delivery center in Brazil?

Can we also see charter flights to CUR from SJO or PTY with these ERJ190s? That would be great! We usually have charter flights between CUR and SJO in October and sometimes in the summer too. At one point we had at least one flight operated by TA a few years ago.

A388


User currently offlineSJOtoLIR From Costa Rica, joined Jul 2007, 4517 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (6 years 1 month 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 20263 times:



Quoting A388 (Reply 17):
Can we also see charter flights to CUR from SJO or PTY with these ERJ190s?

All their operations are based at either LIM, SJO or SAL. That being said, charter flights out of PTY on TA are barely viable.
The only intended charter service in short-term for such area should be rather linking San Jose, Costa Rica - Paramaribo, Suriname in order to attend the qualifying soccer match for the 2010 FIFA World Cup. They will likely utilize Airbus equipment and it'll take place in October 2008.

Further information for such plane:
Type: Embraer 190 IGW.
Serial number: 205.
Test registration: PT-SGO.
Final registration: EI-BCF.
First flight date: Unknown.

Regards.



"Goin' up to the spirit in the sky"
User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9856 posts, RR: 14
Reply 19, posted (6 years 1 month 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 20251 times:



Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 18):
Further information for such plane:
Type: Embraer 190 IGW.
Serial number: 205.
Test registration: PT-SGO.
Final registration: EI-BCF.
First flight date: Unknown.

Regards.

Okay thanks SJOtoLIR. Please keep me informed about the delivery flights and routing of those nice TA ERJ190s.

A388


User currently offlineSJOtoLIR From Costa Rica, joined Jul 2007, 4517 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (6 years 1 month 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 20217 times:



Quoting A388 (Reply 19):
Okay thanks SJOtoLIR. Please keep me informed about the delivery flights and routing of those nice TA ERJ190s.

You can also check regularly the current "Central American aviation thread" that includes further information, press releases and comments about it.

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/read.main/4122071/

Regards.



"Goin' up to the spirit in the sky"
User currently offlineMD11747 From Vatican City, joined Mar 2008, 6 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 1 month 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 20095 times:



Quoting Viasa (Reply 7):
One new A320 is delivered in all white to TACA - so they paint this aircraft in SJO (I think).

Lets get something clear: Everything regarding TA's MX, Sales and Training happens in El Salvador, no painting or repainting happens in other countries where TACA operates, only at their homebase in SAL.

They are building their new simulator facilities right next to AEROMAN, don't know when they'll be done though.


User currently offlineYellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6186 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (6 years 1 month 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 20009 times:



Quoting Flylot (Reply 11):
My favorite scheme is there 90's scheme, even though it was awfully similar to Airbus Industrie 80's scheme.

I agree..it was lifted from Airbus.....but nonethless the Best TA livery ever.



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User currently offlineMIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (6 years 1 month 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 19869 times:

Oh NO

another UGLY livery for Laitn America, why?? Por que??

Que horrible, another white plane... with only a painted garabato on the tail,  thumbsdown 



The TACA brand was once distinctive and beautiful...


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User currently offlineViaggiare From Costa Rica, joined Jan 2007, 2126 posts, RR: 8
Reply 24, posted (6 years 1 month 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 19859 times:



Quoting Yellowtail (Reply 22):
Quoting Flylot (Reply 11):
though it was awfully similar to Airbus Industrie 80's scheme.

I agree..it was lifted from Airbus



Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 23):
The TACA brand was once distinctive and beautiful.

The concept of beauty is (for the most part) subjective, but (and by this I mean no offense) how could that livery have been distinctive (characteristic) of TACA when it so closely resembled (as others have pointed out) the manufacturer paint scheme used way back then by those french guys in Toulouse?


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25 Post contains links and images Mt99 : TACA wasnt the only one either... The Japaneses guys in Japan (sorry couldn't resist) used it too! View Large View MediumPhoto © Air Sheep I thi
26 VC10er : Does anyone know who the designers are for all these new liveries? nobody takes credit for TAM or VARIG and now TACA. strange.
27 Viasa : Skyliner report, that the registration would be TI-BFC...
28 Post contains links and images Viaggiare : In that case then Japanese guys in Tokyo would've been analogous. Parrots are fine, and macaws are quite distinctive of exotic tropical destinations.
29 Mt99 : Hehhe good catch! Touche! Ive never liked the photo realistic tails.. Ill take a stylized bird.. We will see what they come up with..
30 Mt99 : Actually i just thought about it.. Toulouse is not the capital of France. Toulouse is the fourth largest city in France.. Nagoya is Japan's forth lar
31 Post contains links Viaggiare : Oh but I actually meant it in the sense that Airbus is based in Toulouse and JD was headquartered in the Tokyo ward of Ōta.
32 Mt99 : uh huh.. LOL.
33 MIAMIx707 : In my opinion they're not that similar really. Not any more similar of a pattern than the new one which is also a white plane with a painted tail onl
34 Mt99 : Like CM and CO.. Talk about lack of imagination.. Yea its ugly.. not fugly.. but ugly.. i mean the font "TACA" was that like MS Word default? (Times
35 Yellowtail : That was because they were more than just friends...CO owned a good part of CM when that was done..IMHO....CO was hedging their bets with the hope th
36 Mt99 : Maybe - i think it may have ended up in deleted posts..LOL.. ahh good times.. But i couldn't get people to understand that it wasn't because of the i
37 Yellowtail : I understand what you are saying...whether I agree with your argument is another matter better left as is as I won't be around this weekend to banter
38 Mt99 : Yea same here.. I'm taking a road trip to Toronto with some friends over the long holiday..Any tips? anyone? Ill try to keep them to keep them down t
39 SJOtoLIR : It was rather printed in the 732 involved in Atlantic Airlines from Honduras. Some pictures are available in the database. Regards.
40 SJOtoLIR : Some local non-official sources have previously announced that TA will take delivery of its brand new E90 on August 30th. It will be routed as Sao Jo
41 Viaggiare : You mean tomorrow at 1955? There's been some intermittent fog throughout the week. It got so bad a couple of evenings ago that five approaching aircr
42 787KQ : The current livery is the best. It includes art and some interesting colors. You do not mistake TACA for any other airline with its interesting helme
43 MIAMIx707 : Let me guess... you got called a racist?. LOL I remember back in 1998 when first saw the COPA 737 NGs in a Continental-like livery I almost fell off
44 Viaggiare : Nonsense. The mere suggestion that conures are "non-aerodynamic looking" is laughable.
45 SJOtoLIR : The following news release from embraer.com confirms most of the information pointing out above. EMBRAER DELIVERS FIRST EMBRAER 190 JET TO TACA AIRLIN
46 Post contains images MIAMIx707 : So when can we expect Taca's PIECE OF $HIT new livery on the Airbuses? Not that I'rm in a hurry to see it or anything Maybe they will use the white fu
47 Rikkus67 : Actually, in JAS's instance, they loved the Airbus colourscheme SO much, they decided to adopt the scheme with Airbus' blessing.
48 LAXAgent : Todays TA 529/30aug LAX-SAL Plane was all white including tail. It only had TACA decals.
49 OB1504 : The mere fact that conures can fly unassisted to being with (as opposed to, say, humans) defeats that argument. Personally, I don't think either of t
50 Post contains links LACA773 : Is TA going to have a special unveiling, celebration of it's new livery? It seems they are going to a lot of trouble putting all this heavy removable
51 Post contains links Tomascubero : Fred's shot is much clearer and you can see bits of the paint there, here she is a few hours later at SJO just after arrival: http://www.jetphotos.net
52 MIAMIx707 : It looks like billboard titles in the front and the slanted type paint on the rear fuselage typical of so many airlines now. At first glance I thought
53 Vasu : Doesn't look too promising from what I can see (though obviously all I can see is what MIAMIx707 has already pointed out above). Probably going to be
54 Post contains links Boeing777/747 : I don't want to spoil the party but that new TACA livery design idea is something simular as the people of Lila did already in 2006: http://www.lilade
55 LACA773 : Tomas, Thankyou for the information. Saludos LACA773
56 PlunaCRJ : So she´ll be almost a month all covered up?
57 SJOtoLIR : TA is rather relying in smaller planes. Last year, TA signed an order for 11 factory new E90s. By January 2008, TACA has also established a firm deal
58 MIAMIx707 : What's the point of covering this one up? Good catch, the tail seems to be very similar, and not too impressed by that Lila livery. The current China
59 Post contains links Mt99 : Dramatic momentum? Drum rolls..ect.. That the God-Awful one! Macaws please - not quetzals.. Actually, i read somewhere that the founder of TACA chose
60 Aer : It would be interesting.... well if you want to revivie AeroQuetzal there's your idea.
61 Mt99 : There you go.. got a few dozen million dollars available?
62 SJOtoLIR : Correct. A bigger weight implies more fuel burned for the same basic 100-seater equipment. .......................Typical operating empty weight [kg]
63 Yellowtail : So in a region where we can get anything for a couple of bucks in the right hands.....can someone please "talk" a security guard at Aeroman and get us
64 FASCM170 : I've seen the E190 model in TA HQ back in May and it has the current paint scheme. It did not looked that bad. Current corporate image was unveiled w
65 Post contains links and images OwlEye : " target=_blank>http://www.liladesign.com/aviationpo....html Here is an image of that concept (click on it to magnify). By the way, it is a concept c
66 Abrelosojos : Way too busy for a livery. What ever happened to simplicity! Thank God, China Eastern did not go with the Lila concept. Cheers, A.
67 Aer : We are doing a coperacha or maybe a telethon, any ideas???
68 A388 : Hmmm I don't know how to look at that new China Eastern livery. I like the color combination and the large gold Chinese lettering but at the same tim
69 Flylot : I don't mind the chinese livery. It one of the few Lila Design designs I appreciate. My favorite one of theirs is Iran Air. However they do tend to go
70 Post contains images MIAMIx707 : That was a great livery. TACA aircraft would look amazing if they had those colors. A Quetzal bird would look dull in comparison lol well... that's t
71 Post contains links and images MIAMIx707 : IMO Lila's VG Airlines design was great, by far the sharpest and most original I've ever seen on their site. . uh, please, no. The chinese carriers th
72 Mt99 : Hehehe - .. Good one.. agree with you 100% Eh i am willing to wait to see how it end up before passing judgment Hello, thats what happens all the tim
73 OwlEye : Big words but I understand your emotions, I appreciate your lively way of foruming. The new TACA livery has something simular with the CEA concept bu
74 Mt99 : Scandinavian doesn't quite do that. They put all the countries flags towards the front. That's cool i think Is that certain? we haven't seen the fina
75 Post contains links OwlEye : I have to admit, you are true. Maybe they'll show up when we meet the full livery. Through the cover up foil at the front roof I can aware a parrot.
76 A388 : I agree, those golden parrots are nice and are one of the identifiable characteristics of the TA livery. They should be kept if TA is wise enough. By
77 MIAMIx707 : No way lol.. but they might still end up slapping them on the tail or fuselage somewhere I give this livery 7 years (tops) before they change it agai
78 Tomascubero : It is, they don't want anyone to see the new livery until its presented in a proper ceremony though we did get to see part of the tail CS and winglet
79 MIAMIx707 : Thanks for the info Tomas, go get it! I was gonna say try to get a sneak shot before the ceremony but nah.. let's TACA have their day and enjoy their
80 Mt99 : Aww... got to say "Strike 1"... Still keeping hope alive for the complete picture, but its not starting on the right foot.. Bad move from a marketing
81 OwlEye : Through the foil on the front roof I can aware a macaw. I cannot believe they trash the parrot.
82 Vasu : From which photo is this?
83 Aerokiwi : Booooooooooooring! I like the current (well, old now) TACA livery. The parrots were unique and the overall look very classy rather than cartoony, like
84 MIAMIx707 : I cannot believe they first trash their once colorful 70s-80s scheme, along with the colorful parrot. The current Macaws look like they're dead on a d
85 MIAMIx707 : The current scheme was bland and generic however it was probably the constant images of the crashed plane saying "TACA" and showing the livery that pr
86 Mt99 : Uh.. no.. the image change has been in the works for over a year
87 Putnik : I have an impression that this is going to be a good one. Red colourful tail and part of fuselage painted in red plus a logo with the bird added. Only
88 Post contains links and images 787KQ : From underneath most aircraft look alike: That is not usually how the livery is expected to be viewed. Proof: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Front...
89 Avianca : at the end of september they will present the new corporate identy in SAL
90 A388 : Yeah, where can you see this, which photo? A388
91 Post contains images Tomascubero : Haha wish I could but its not gonna happen, white vinyls come off @ SAL, Aeroman to be more precise and it will happen while the people invited to th
92 LACA773 : Thanks for the info, SJOtoLIR! I hope they'll add additional service to LAX now that UA has axed all of their C.A. flights. This is going to make thi
93 Viaggiare : Hi there, Tomás. Yes it's a purely conjectural concept rendition of mine, submitted early last week as my entry in TACA's "Win a plush stuffed parro
94 SJOtoLIR : The seasonal UA ORD-LIR still remains in Central America. UA has recently dropped GUA-LAX and LAX-SAL, being both services code-shared with TA in the
95 MIAMIx707 : hahahaha so did you win? Hopefully they gave you the choice between the classic colorful macaw and the 90's dissected dead birds dipped in sewage (he
96 Viaggiare : Haven't heard from them yet... jury might still be out. What's funny is for them to have gone so out of their way to create all this mystery and anti
97 Mt99 : Whats so funny about that? United did the exact same thing.. Name one airline that has not had some mystery and anticipation before an image change?
98 Viaggiare : For me it basically has to do with the cloak-and-dagger secrecy... talking 'em brasileiros at the factory into playing along... ferrying the aircraft
99 Mt99 : ROFL.. You really make my days sometimes. "Cloak and Dagger Secrecy".. LOL .. You have been watching too many Telenovelas.. Are you kidding? What are
100 Post contains images OwlEye : The new TACA livery shall have a parrot at the front, not? I can see its tail through the foil under the window position: [Edited 2008-09-16 23:13:28]
101 Mt99 : I certainly hope that the parrot is somewhere!
102 Vasu : Yeah, looks like there's something down there indeed...!
103 A388 : Me too! The parrot must be kept! A388
104 Post contains links and images CRAviation : I don't see a lot of future for the parrots. I work for a Taca regional airline and yesterday we got a workshop about the new philosophy of customer s
105 Post contains images Mt99 : That would be tragedy indeed   Maybe the got skewered by one of Viaggiare's now famous daggers [Edited 2008-09-18 19:32:07]
106 MIAMIx707 : They buried the dead flock of parrots? shame... (JEJEJE JE!!!)
107 Post contains links and images Tomascubero : How great to see you posting here, welcome (somewhat late)! I'm sorry to say that at least for the first E190, there is not going to by any signs of
108 Post contains images Viaggiare : Aside from conveying my condolences, I might just send out a nicely gift-wrapped USB Parrot to help you get through the difficult times ahead... Chec
109 Mt99 : DO the E-jets have USB ports? heheh Nice FS work.. actually i like the grey color of the body more so than the white
110 Yellowtail : How could I have missed this thread!....All MTs Fault I believe IMHO...the livery is unimaginative, but it then end it is not my money. I would have d
111 Viaggiare : That's exactly what it looks like... and back to my point: all the cloak-and-dagger secrecy bs for that? One word... payasos! Which would fit right i
112 Mt99 : Yes! very good observation You better include lots of USB hubs in that case! Here we go again.. the other time you wanted to take my pants off, now y
113 A388 : Good one!! It made me laugh A388
114 Yellowtail : You guys and gals and in betweeners are too much!
115 Viaggiare : More like I said you'd been "caught with your trousers down" when it became evident that someone had been fiddling with the edit post feature. Oh com
116 Yellowtail : IN fact...I will Testify on Viaggiare's behalf......that phrase is listed on the USB Parrot sellers site.
117 Mt99 : I was just pulling my buddy's leg..LOL FYI. i am man - not "in between" anything Back to business here: Whats this new philosophy? Can you tell us? o
118 Post contains images Viaggiare : So did you get a kick out of the Taca (ahem I mean Tiki) Room bit? Although you didn't say much, I could picture you firing 'em birds up in that livi
119 MIAMIx707 : That looks like a Parrot who's about to detonate a dynamite stick after he saw the new colors it sucks BOOM
120 Mt99 : Fishing for a complement on your humorist skills i see. Yes, it was very enjoyable. I almost fell on the floor laughing. You are a very funny man. An
121 Post contains images Viaggiare : It does look like he's ready to push down on that thing at any minute now, doesn't it? Oh, brother......
122 Post contains links and images Tomascubero : Hey Guys, Well the new philosophy can be shortened to just two words "Trato Personal" or in english, "Personal Deal" (which is the literal translatio
123 Mt99 : Thanks for the great info!! As you may have noticed the quality of out postings had been lowered for while LOL.. now we can get back to business Grea
124 Post contains links and images CRAviation : Tomas explained perfectly the "Trato Personal" philosophy. Passengers are passengers again, not statistics, not numbers. It's bringing the way your fa
125 CRAviation : No luck there. I've been inside the cabin and no parrots! All leather seats. First class with a 2-1 configuration and economy with a 2-2 configuratio
126 Aer : I've seen these all over Guatemala City, well now I know who they're from hehe. An interesting question here, will the E-jets be N registered or Cent
127 Post contains links and images A388 : The cockpit of the ERJ190 is just fantastic! I recognize my own photo of the ERJ190, in my case the brandnew ERJ190 for Virgin Blue of Australia. See
128 MIAMIx707 : That would be translated as "personal treatment" or better yet "personalized service" saludos, abrasos, y besos signed, The mysterios TACA parrot
129 Post contains images Viaggiare : That is no parrot tail... it's just the red wavy line up there ^^^^^^^ above ^^^^^^^ this ^^^^^^^ line ^^^^^^^ of ^^^^^^^ text!
130 SJOtoLIR : GRUPO TACA will operate three factory new E90s this year under the Costa Rican registration, being the TI-BCF the first of them. The enrollment of su
131 Viaggiare : How ironic... the former LACSA (with its nos encanta la gente! motto) was about all of those things way back then before it was... parrotized. TaIk a
132 Viaggiare : It's pretty much common knowledge that the next two will be registered TI-BCG and TI-BCH.
133 Mt99 : It could be parrot tail.. just look harder.. Carefull Sarah Palin is going to kick your butt.. That is a HUGE challenge for ANY company. Its all abou
134 CRAviation : Oh yes...we all remember those days here in Costa Rica...good old Lacsa. Well yes of course...a company that doesn't make money cannot exist. But mos
135 Belizexp : IMO TACA just have a major livery meltdown
136 SJOtoLIR : Good shot ! So far, the slogan was translated as: "we love people" during the 70s. . I was recently reading carefully the inner bulletin "Nuestro GRU
137 Mt99 : It was better than TACA's: "Hacia Arriba con Usted!" Literal translation: "Up with you!" Which some here would equate to their on board service .. LO
138 Aer : :'( I always did like Aviateca's best "Más alto, más lejos, mejor"
139 A388 : A new word has been invented LOL Isn't that the case with all airlines (or even all commercial companies)? Since when do airlines care about customer
140 Tomascubero : And indeed it is! Following up your reply on the "lines" by the TACA on the fuselage, they are definetly there, just that each E-Jet will have them p
141 Viaggiare : That's quite a sneeringly cynical attitude I must say. Some airlines do in fact care about their customers (WN and CO come to mind) and their custome
142 A388 : Of course airlines give attention and care about their customers but the bottomline is the airline's own wallet. Especially on routes where an airlin
143 Mt99 : You have it backwards. Its beacuse they are on a cheap ticket that they are happy. WN success is in no small part the fact that they are able to mana
144 Viaggiare : TACA Cookies? I thought they were still giving out the infamous AEROCHIPS manufactured by Productos Diana in Soyapango. Hmmm guess I haven't flown th
145 MIAMIx707 : I think they already have the Americas well covered, the only thing stopping them from becoming this "great airline" might be their own monopoly or N
146 Mt99 : Maybe that's why you are so critical. You haven't experienced the Parrot in while. Last time i was on a TA flight, the cookie was there it was hard a
147 Viaggiare : Yeah I just can't help it. Somewhat like reading the back of the cereal box.
148 Mt99 : Today;s the day.. First one who provides a picture gets a USB parrot courtesy of Viaggare!
149 Post contains images Juanchito : First pic Juanchito
150 Airportmanager : Taca's livery has always sucked, lets see the new one. Will the EMB be flying routes to Ecuador any time soon? We have a number of daily flights.....
151 Mt99 : It kinda looks like a parrot up in front. Definitely an improvement on the old livery
152 Aer : As I said in another thread about TA's new logo, I just can't stop but noticeing 2 things: 1) The new T uses the UA font (with the upper lines tilted
153 JJJM : I like it......much better than the old c/s Great they kept the parrot....and this one looks very nice Parrot=TACA Regards JJJM
154 PlunaCRJ : I don´t agree with you. At least the old livery had color in it. With the red hat and stripe gone, the fuselage is now way to white. If at least the
155 Post contains images MIAMIx707 : Reminds me of the new Egyptair concept somewhat The fuselage actually has more color now, (unfortunately only near the tail... ). Yes it's a copycat o
156 LACA773 : Is there a reason why airlines don't use "cheat lines" anymore? I really think it adds something to all the different schemes and also tames the main
157 A388 : Nice colors! I would have kept the golden-colored parrots on the tail logo but the same new design as the new one visible on the photo posted by Juanc
158 787KQ : I am happy they have another livery with stylized birds and not some ugly "realistic" bird. Way to go TACA!
159 Post contains links Viaggiare : Have you seen this one yet?
160 Post contains links and images Csavel : View Large View MediumPhoto © Andy Martin - AirTeamImages No offense, but that livery is, UGLY!!!!!!!! It is like the worst of the 70s-80s exces
161 A388 : Okay thanks Viaggiare. I was not aware of that photo. The tail does look too plain. A388
162 OB1504 : I would've expected a greater interest in this thread or a picture of the entire aircraft to be up by now. Wasn't the grand unveiling yesterday?
163 Newdan : I hope they don't got anywhere. But i hope the new livery is better than the current one. I never real liked it. Looked a bit on the cheapy... side...
164 Viaggiare : Not much in the way of excitement, there's no point denying it. Yep, last night. And although somewhat of an improvement over its parroty predecessor
165 Boeing777/747 : Simple livery. What's the purpose of this change?
166 Viaggiare : Well it's presumably part of an effort to revamp those distinguishing "human" characteristics of the brand's personality and bolster sagging performa
167 MIAMIx707 : that's your opinion and you're entitled to it of course. What I'd like to know is hoe exactly some colorful lines be "ugly"? If you could break that
168 Post contains links and images Owleye : Mmm, that new livery design... I have the feeling it is still unfinished. I would love to see new good looking pictures to judge. The parrot at the fr
169 Airbus767 : Hmm yeah I feel the same, it looks like it's missing something. From the looks of it, though, they could have come up with something better based on
170 A388 : That is what I think is missing too. The parrot on the tail as well as larger titles. I do like the new font used and the restylized parrot. That par
171 Ghost77 : This way is perfect!!! Keep it simple stupid.... nice change TACA!!! g77
172 Viaggiare : As I said earlier, it's lackluster and unworthy of all the anticipation and hoopla. Perhaps some of those shades of red on both engines might've made
173 MIAMIx707 : The parrot, turkey vulture, cock or whatever that is... and the tail do not compliment or go with each other (perhaps you at Lila design saw that too
174 VC10er : who takes credit for this new livery? creating a new livery is a very strategic decision, often backed with extensive research that brings to life the
175 Viaggiare : According to the TACA press release, they retained Lippincott (a Manhattan-based consulting firm dealing with brand strategy) to assist them with the
176 OwlEye : I disagree, it's not yet perfect...[Edited 2008-09-27 01:16:23]
177 A388 : What is your source on this livery being done by amateurs? Anyone can say anything, so to speak. I have doubts to believe that an airline like TACA,
178 Viaggiare : ap·pear [uh-peer] –verb (used without object) 2. to have the appearance of being; seem.
179 A388 : Your reply is suggesting it actually is done by amateurs. Your last sentence "so go figure" is what gives the impression that the livery is done by a
180 Viaggiare : It might give you that distorted impression, so just for the sake of literacy, "go figure" is a shortening of the sentiment "go figure that out, if y
181 A388 : That is precisely what I mean, depends on the context in which it is used... As to your comment on my "distorted" impression, lighten up buddy. A388[
182 Viaggiare : So I take it we can move on then. Oh the word distorted is absolutely harmless, no need to take offense. "The human understanding is like a false mir
183 A388 : As you say, let's just move on.... A388
184 MIAMIx707 : lol The funny thing is before the 1990s latin airlines hired their own local ad agencies and artists/painters (who knew how to make a livery that rep
185 Post contains images Viaggiare : Yep. This one in particular doesn't represent ANYTHING. As for distinctiveness, it's in fact a "quita y pon" livery, meaning the paint scheme is easi
186 Mt99 : How about this, to validate your "taste".. how about you show us a livery you do like.
187 A388 : There are a lot more airlines with "quita y pon" liveries so this is not something that TACA only has. The distinctiveness has changed with many airl
188 Post contains images Viaggiare : I didn't suggest TACA was the only one, did I?
189 MIAMIx707 : Hooters! that livery rocked, especially on their 757 Roger do you speak Spanish fluently?
190 Post contains links Viasa : Here is the first picture from Miami: http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6368246&nseq=1
191 A388 : In writing my Spanish skills are better then my Spanish speaking skills. A388
192 Mt99 : HUH hooters!!! Tacky, Tacky..i hope you are kidding in calling that a good livery.. Try again...
193 Mt99 : No, you criticized it:
194 Post contains images Viaggiare : But that was about the old copycat scheme, now we're talking about the new quita y pon livery.
195 OB1504 : " target=_blank>http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.p...seq=1 It's definitely an improvement over the previous livery, but I'm not that fond of the ra
196 Post contains links and images MIAMIx707 : whatever Viaggiare, both of those Aviateca liveries are A+ especially the first one. In the 70s they also had a red/yellow one that was very colorful
197 Viaggiare : Look closer and you'll notice the first one belongs to now-defunct TAN-SAHSA of Honduras. Indeed btw the general appearance of its typography and log
198 Mt99 : Obviously, not a very good livery, if you cant tell which airline it belongs to! Ill agree with Tan Sahsa as a good livery.The Aviateca is hideous. N
199 MIAMIx707 : Yes my mistake. It used to b Sahsa, one of the best schemes in central america, ever. they all suck
200 Mt99 : LOL.. let me guess, you still use 8-tracks...
201 Post contains images Viaggiare : Dude the whole thing was a parody to begin with... a similarly lackluster design which took only a few minutes to complete... with none of that silly
202 MIAMIx707 : A little before my time, however I still have a bunch of cassette tapes Tapes are useless now though, current radio fare (at least here in the US) ha
203 Mt99 : KLM livery was in use at least in 1986, Royal Jordanian in use at least in 1998. So those do not count as "this century" That leaves Gulf Air and MAT
204 Viaggiare : what a crock!
205 Post contains images Mt99 : This is a crock: Back to our session.. "That leaves Gulf Air and MAT in the running. How many minutes did those take, you think?" You didn't answer..
206 MIAMIx707 : Mt99... stop flirting with Viaggiare
207 Viaggiare : Yep... guess he's at it again. For goodness sake, get a hold of your hormones Mt99!
208 Mt99 : Hey, i've lost hope.. his bad taste proves that he is not a member of the "other" team.. Maybe thats the reason he is so angry all the time.
209 Viaggiare : I need to pinch myself. So does this mean I can now roam the forums freely without fear of being targeted and accosted by aggressive online predators
210 MIAMIx707 : oh so to have good taste one needs to play for the rainbow team now? Your taste is a lot worse than mine and I'm straight
211 Post contains links Rojo : Email has been sent to Distancia Frequent Flyers: http://www.tus-sentidos.com/
212 Heathrow : since when is V nigeria ordering E 190's?
213 Yellowtail : Maybe they should have painted the wingbox area red like EK and written CentroAmerica on it...then we could have done a publicity shot of it banking o
214 Aer : Not a parrot, it's an eagle's head. BTW a friend, lawyer at aeronautica civil, told me that the Mexican Slim Group had invested in TA after their joi
215 Mt99 : Whatever. Then Viagarre and Co. would have criticized them for "copying" EK. The way the economy is, its not a bad idea to have Mr. Slim on your side
216 VC10er : VERY INTERESTING. Lippincott is a very well known identity firm that did the widely loved Continental identity. While they are no Landor, they are a
217 MIAMIx707 : The tail is good, as far as creativity goes. The rest is very mediocre, I don't know how well-loved it is. Could you do some homework and find out ex
218 Viaggiare : Yes I would fully agree with that assessment. Hmm being the cheapskates they are perhaps it was offered at a deep discount... the whole design might
219 Mt99 : pfft.. One million dollars is not that much nowadays. Its chump change for even a midsized company. The One miiiilliiion dollars (best Dr Evil impres
220 Mt99 : Hmmm.. i guess they got the idea from COPA and CO. Anybody know anyone at CM that can tell us how much they paid for a second hand livery?
221 OwlEye : It all depends what the design agency did for that fee and on what quality level. 'Blue suits' overhead, nonsens marketing chit chat and exaggerated
222 Mt99 : You have to agree thought, that it is vast improvement over the old one!
223 Post contains links Mt99 : I'd just like to point out.. that looks like "Aloha" coerced those "Ticos" in playing Viaggiare's favorite Cloak-and-Dagger game: "Hide the livery"..
224 Post contains images SJOtoLIR : No more chips from Soyapango since TA resumed their free meals aboard around May 2007. Before that date, non-alcoholic beverages and AeroChips were o
225 Post contains links Ota1 : Just as a side note: The future integration of TA into *A was mentioned in an article I read yesterday... I'd love to see them join! see here (last s
226 Viaggiare : It does seem that way indeed, but to cover it with that black plastic was so amateurish of them. TACA uses removable vinyl wrap these days, although
227 Viaggiare : I thought you absolutely loved the old one.
228 Post contains images Mt99 : Maybe the hired the same company to cover it. In any case, i prefer the paint used by Garuda and Air China. The blue covers used by SWISS is very nic
229 Mt99 : God no. Do you not read what i post!
230 Viaggiare : And how they held it in place with numerous bits of masking tape. I apologize for the misunderstanding. So to set the record straight... you didn't l
231 MIAMIx707 : Good detective work, I bet that's precisely how it happened too if you go to their website it appears they actually did the new Delta scheme, didn't
232 SJOtoLIR : From the article: "En su crecimiento en Lationamérica sostuvo que las alianzas serán importantes como el acuerdo que tiene con Mexicana de Aviació
233 VC10er : Lippencott doesnt do discounts. it would not be a part of their business strategy to give something away for less than full fare for a new livery.
234 MIAMIx707 : I see Continental there now, (either I didn't see it before or they just added it). Last time I checked the page was showing the Delta livery now it
235 Mt99 : I didnt like the old livery. The new open while it doesn't give the warm-fuzzies .. BUT it is a marked improvement. It is certainly a more polished l
236 Boeing777/747 : Are you sure? Almost every company discounts. See how much discount Airbus and Boeing give to certain customers.
237 Mt99 : Not every company does. Airbus and Boeing's discounts on aircraft part of their strategy (hoping for repeat business, parts, training etc). If you ar
238 Post contains images MayaviaERJ190 : Directly from TACA-Mexico (Volaris), almost in High Definition, heeeere's a close up of La Gran Guacamaya, The Great Macaw, the new logo with at least
239 MIAMIx707 : tell that to the 238 replies, and counting... Apparently people are interested, I am.
240 A388 : Yellowtail is right, people eventually only care about the service, reliability and fares. An airline's livery also plays role but not to the extend
241 Post contains links Mt99 : Hey Viaggiare? How many minutes do you think Mexicana's Livery took? 2 or 3 minutes? http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/read.main/
242 Viaggiare : Assuming the cartel's vulture took about five minutes, I would have to say the mexican eagle beak required maybe twice that, and another five minutes
243 Post contains links and images Boeing777/747 : Approx. five minutes
244 MIAMIx707 : Yes, marketing, brand recognition and identity role, so that's not "mute" then. In this case it also represents a new philosophy of excellence at TAC
245 VC10er : Lippincott may have some sort of pricing structure that allows for lower costs for certain types of projects and their size. It is however their posi
246 A388 : Yes, quite amusing to follow those conversations I do agree that the new MX livery is horrendous in my opinion, if that indeed is the final livery. A
247 Viaggiare : Yes the similarities are shocking, which is reason alone to call it a bad logo. So Delta paid top dollar for that shiat? Amazing. All they seemingly
248 VC10er : In defense of the seemingly disliked new Delta livery, it did freshen their look. It will send a message to flyers that this is a new better Delta. Th
249 MIAMIx707 : I had never heard of Lipincott to be honest, and their airline portfolio doesn't seem to even come close to Landor's, yet the mediocre DL Citgo liver
250 A388 : Yes I like the new DL livery, a job very well done in my opinion. I like the new livery on all their aircraft types, especially their 777s and 757s.
251 NAVEGA : Mayavia, I really like the new Taca Logo. It is magnificent. Now why couldn't Mexicana come up with something so eye-catching and professional ?
252 Miamix707 : Aggressively marketing their anonymous, ghost-like livery that says nothing I remember I used to see the colorful pre-1997 scheme in divers magazines
253 Mt99 : The North Pole is actually very beautiful and very interesting I guess CM's livery want you to fly to Houston .. yuck I think that in the history of
254 A388 : I wish TA all the best of course, just like any other airline. I read in another forum that the TA ERJ190s will also have PTV's in each seat which is
255 SJOtoLIR : TA will receive three brand new E90s this year as they will quickly utilize their planes in the following segments: TA SJO-HAV-SJO. Starts: October 1
256 ATCT : All the birds sing words and the flowers croon.... Clint
257 Viaggiare : Yep that's precisely the jingle Mt99 is hooked on.
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