777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5286 posts, RR: 4 Posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2698 times:
PIA are planning to restart service there routed as Pakistan-Chicago-Houston, PIA chairman said seprat terminator service to both destinations did not work previously, no otehr details of when these may begin, ofcourse its pending approval of nonstops which US authorities seem to be okay with now.
Thomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3727 posts, RR: 25 Reply 1, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2678 times:
Hummmmmm.... I can't speak for ORD, but EK and the coming QR service will likely lay waste to anything that PK can offer. While I am skeptical, they are more than welcome to try. As I always say. "Houston can't have too many airlines, especially int'l carriers"
Yellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 5278 posts, RR: 2 Reply 2, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2621 times:
Quoting 777way (Thread starter): PIA chairman said seprat terminator service to both destinations did not work previously,
The reason why this flight didn't work to IAH in the first place was that it was not N/S....so bringing back a similar type of flight will only fail again.
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CALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3662 posts, RR: 8 Reply 3, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2604 times:
Jacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 61 Reply 4, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2511 times:
That, but also they didn't have rights to carry pax b/t MAN & IAH.
They actually had full freedom rights to do so..they just marketed it poorly..
Quoting Thomasphoto60 (Reply 1): Hummmmmm.... I can't speak for ORD, but EK and the coming QR service will likely lay waste to anything that PK can offer. While I am skeptical, they are more than welcome to try. As I always say. "Houston can't have too many airlines, especially int'l carriers"
Actually, PK would do well if they offer the services nonstop....the problem is, with a stop in MAN, its no longer competitive with EK or EY.
Even with EK/EY offering Pakistan-DXB/AUH-YYZ services, PK does well with its Pakistan-YYZ services.
Also, neither EK or EY have announced ORD anytime soon, so if PK can get going again, they just might be able to get a decent market share.
David_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7168 posts, RR: 14 Reply 5, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2499 times:
Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 4): They actually had full freedom rights to do so..they just marketed it poorly..
PK had just the 5 5th freedom rights per week to operate out of MAN. JFK was the one that had the most (at least 3). Never saw that IAH had one as I believed ORD had at least 1 per week, though IAH did have a smattering of passengers so that too must have had 1 per week. Perhaps they just floated the 5 rights across those routes each week so it was pot luck if you could fly the pond with them if originating in MAN!
PIA777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1738 posts, RR: 7 Reply 6, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2462 times:
Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 4): They actually had full freedom rights to do so..they just marketed it poorly..
The PIA Billboard near O'hare did mention service to MAN.
PIA777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1738 posts, RR: 7 Reply 7, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2461 times:
I hope ORD-Pakistan is offered by December. We are looking to go.
AznMadSci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3546 posts, RR: 5 Reply 8, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2374 times:
Quoting 777way (Thread starter): PIA are planning to restart service there routed as Pakistan-Chicago-Houston,
So would it be Pakistan-ORD nonstop and then continue onto IAH or would they bring back Pakistan-MAN-IAH? Also ISB or LHE?
Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 4): They actually had full freedom rights to do so..they just marketed it poorly.. yes
Was that the case? I always thought that they didn't get 5th as well as marketing it poorly.
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Jacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 61 Reply 9, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2248 times:
Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 4):
They actually had full freedom rights to do so..they just marketed it poorly..
PK had just the 5 5th freedom rights per week to operate out of MAN. JFK was the one that had the most (at least 3). Never saw that IAH had one as I believed ORD had at least 1 per week, though IAH did have a smattering of passengers so that too must have had 1 per week. Perhaps they just floated the 5 rights across those routes each week so it was pot luck if you could fly the pond with them if originating in MAN!
I'm not so sure how the setup was (though I do have the documents somewhere). I did know of a number of people who flew IAH-MAN...
Quoting PIA777 (Reply 6): Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 4):
They actually had full freedom rights to do so..they just marketed it poorly..
The PIA Billboard near O'hare did mention service to MAN.
My family flew ORD-MAN a few times on PK...the price/service was simply unbeatable.
Quoting PIA777 (Reply 7): I hope ORD-Pakistan is offered by December. We are looking to go.
...me too...that being said, its no big deal for me as my wife and I fly PK out of LHR/MAN to Pakistan.
Quoting AznMadSci (Reply 8): So would it be Pakistan-ORD nonstop and then continue onto IAH or would they bring back Pakistan-MAN-IAH? Also ISB or LHE?
I think it would be the former....I don't expect to see Pakistan-MAN-IAH...I would assume it would probably be ISB one of the day(s) and LHE another day(s) with the terminator flight at KHI.
Quoting AznMadSci (Reply 8):
Was that the case? I always thought that they didn't get 5th as well as marketing it poorly.
They did have 5th freedom rights....I should know, my family flew it a number of times...
AznMadSci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3546 posts, RR: 5 Reply 10, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2160 times:
Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 9): They did have 5th freedom rights....I should know, my family flew it a number of times...
I see my confusion (I think) ... I know they did IAH-MAN-LHE/ISB/KHI, but were they able to sell tickets for the IAH-MAN-IAH portion? I know a Pakistan-ORD-IAH will definitely do poorly since any tag on to IAH from other US airports, other than BA, have done poorly such as CI and GF.
[Edited 2008-08-15 22:21:32]
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ZWZWUnited From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 197 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2121 times:
Chicago AND Houston? Hmmmm..... (soon) two very LARGE Star Alliance hubs! Any chance that PIA is trying to wiggle its way into *A? They do already code share with Thai and Turkish!
I wonder if their recent issues with a/c banned in the EU would have any bearing on their entrance/eligibility to enter *A?
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...me too...that being said, its no big deal for me as my wife and I fly PK out of LHR/MAN to Pakistan.
I know a Pakistan-ORD-IAH will definitely do poorly since any tag on to IAH from other US airports, other than BA, have done poorly such as CI and GF.
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