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Space Shuttle Launch Seen From Air Canada Jet  
User currently offlineAirCanada014 From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 1513 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 14643 times:

Hello all

I thought this is pretty cool to share. I was just reading Flyertalk and one of the topic is
Space Shuttle launch from Air Canada's jet. Here's the link.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=855845
http://www.inquisitr.com/2412/space-...ttle-launch-from-air-canada-plane/

Have any of you experience any event similar to this one onboard the a/c while inflight or on the ground?.. I've seen fighter jets taking off before us when I was in Naha, Okinawa Japan some years ago.. sorry don't know how to put video on here so I provided the link above.

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User currently offlineSmokeyrosco From Ireland, joined Dec 2005, 2112 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 14548 times:

That is a cool video, pity about the commentary though!


John Hancock
User currently offlineBramble From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks ago) and read 14408 times:



Quoting AirCanada014 (Thread starter):
Have any of you experience any event similar to this one onboard the a/c while inflight or on the ground?.. I've seen fighter jets taking off before us when I was in Naha, Okinawa Japan some years ago.. sorry don't know how to put video on here so I provided the link above.

I spotted mid air refuelling over the Adriatic once. It was during the NATO airstrikes on Serbia,maybe 7-9 years ago I think. No idea of aircraft,could just make out large tanker with 4 smaller aircraft in formation behind.During that campaign I also overflew a B52 base in England and could spot the BUFFs on the ramp.


User currently offlineJpyvr From Canada, joined Jan 2000, 124 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 14221 times:

Many years ago (it was on TWA, so that might give you some idea) I was on a flight from LGA to FLL. On a clear sunny morning over Florida the plane began to circle at cruising altitude. The pilot came on the PA to announce that we were in a holding pattern as airspace ahead was temporarily being closed for the launch of the shuttle, and that we were in for a treat. I was even luckier than some other passengers as I happened to be on the side of the plane that provided the best view a few minutes later when the shuttle left the pad, rose quickly to our altitude and beyond, and disappeared from view, leaving just it's trail lingering in the air. A sight I'll never forget, for sure.

User currently offlineLnglive1011yyz From Canada, joined Oct 2003, 1608 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 14110 times:

I haven't seen it from a plane, but I saw the last launch less than 3 miles from the shuttle at the NASA Causeway  Wink

hehehe

Everyone needs to see that at least once in their life..

1011yyz



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User currently offlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6713 posts, RR: 32
Reply 5, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 13968 times:



Quoting AirCanada014 (Thread starter):
Have any of you experience any event similar to this one onboard the a/c while inflight or on the ground?

Yep, I've experienced this same thing (and it might have even been the same launch). I was on CO 1198 flying from GCM to EWR on May 31 of this year. We were delayed around 90 minutes due to a late-arriving aircraft. Once we were over Florida, the captain announced that we'd be taking a more westerly route than normal due to airspace restrictions tied to the shuttle launch, but that if the launch went off on schedule, the folks on the right side of the aircraft (including me) would have a pretty good view. About 5 minutes before liftoff, the captain notified us that the launch was still on schedule. And yep, the launch did occur as planned -- and my view was even better since I didn't have the wing in the way. It was actually more impressive than the video shows because you see a very bright point of light from the engines -- and supposedly some people saw the solid rocket boosters falling.


User currently offlineThorny From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 13878 times:



Quoting AirCanada014 (Thread starter):

I thought this is pretty cool to share. I was just reading Flyertalk and one of the topic is
Space Shuttle launch from Air Canada's jet.

It's a cool video, but it isn't a Space Shuttle launch. You can tell by how the contrail suddenly brightens about one minute in. That's the three air-lit solid rocket motors of a Delta II firing up.


User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2810 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 13423 times:

Cool video. It must nice to experience this from the air.


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User currently offlineProfcalvin From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 107 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 12458 times:

Amazing video and interesting commenting  Wink

User currently offlineN104UA From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 902 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 12433 times:

Cool video what is the no fly zone around Kennedy on launch days cause I was once told you could not be with in 250nm of Kennedy in case something happens and the shuttle needs to abort


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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21530 posts, RR: 55
Reply 10, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 12286 times:



Quoting N104UA (Reply 9):
I was once told you could not be with in 250nm of Kennedy in case something happens and the shuttle needs to abort

No way. There's the standard 30nm no-fly zone around the launchpad, but that's only for VFR aircraft. IFR aircraft are under ATC control and thus can be kept away from the area both by ATC and by the need to avoid the restricted airspace that's around KSC full-time (and it's definitely active for the launch).

If the shuttle does have to abort, it will be at very high altitude and it will be coming back from the east. Therefore, you can have air traffic going up and down the coast to the west of the lauchpad with little trouble.

-Mir



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User currently offlineJkj777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 12179 times:

yeah, that is not the shuttle..........most likely a delta II sending a satellite or trash in to space. Impressive either way though.

User currently offlineKennyK From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 482 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 11642 times:

Don't have a go at the lad doing his commentary he's obviously overawed and I bet we would all be saying something similar with eyes like saucers and drool running down our chin  Wow!

User currently offlinePlatinumfoota From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 556 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 11322 times:
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What a great video. The title is a bit misleading. I was thinking that the shuttle actually launched from an inflight jet! Kind of like this..



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User currently offlineSSTsomeday From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 1276 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 10268 times:



Quoting KennyK (Reply 12):
Don't have a go at the lad doing his commentary he's obviously overawed and I bet we would all be saying something similar with eyes like saucers and drool running down our chin

Yeah I think I would have been similarily impressed and non-technical in my reaction.



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User currently offlineF9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 5001 posts, RR: 28
Reply 15, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 10129 times:



Quoting Lnglive1011yyz (Reply 4):
I haven't seen it from a plane, but I saw the last launch less than 3 miles from the shuttle at the NASA Causeway

hehehe

Everyone needs to see that at least once in their life..

1011yyz

That is a great video perspective! I would love to see that from the air. I also have never watched it launch in real life. I would however love to see it. I have a few years left to see her lift off. By the way, what happens when they retire the shuttle? Are they going to just use conventional rockets like the old days? It would be neat to see them build a newer version of the shuttle.



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User currently offlineCurlyheadboy From Italy, joined Feb 2005, 940 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 9875 times:



Quoting F9Animal (Reply 15):
By the way, what happens when they retire the shuttle? Are they going to just use conventional rockets like the old days?

Well, basically yes, they plan to strap the Shuttle's SRBs to an old-fashion rocket  Wink

Jokes aside, the proposal it's called Project Constellation, you can start reading here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constellation_Program

And you'll find a lot of other info on the military and space section of the forum  Smile



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User currently offlineJBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4488 posts, RR: 21
Reply 17, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 9851 times:



Quoting Jkj777 (Reply 11):
yeah, that is not the shuttle..........most likely a delta II sending a satellite or trash in to space. Impressive either way though.

What makes you so sure?

And I've never seen a Delta II "trash" flight in my life.



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User currently offline9VSIO From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 711 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 9493 times:
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Quoting Platinumfoota (Reply 13):
The title is a bit misleading.

haha, that's what I thought too! And that video you posted shows the importance of wearing your seatbelt :P



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User currently offlineBagpipes From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 83 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 9442 times:

On 07FEB01 I was flying UA on a 727 from TPA to ORD, I was flying to recruit training for the Navy. Just prior to boarding the 727-200 a space shuttle Launched ( i dont remeber whch one though, Maybe some one on here will Know?) It was just before dusk and we were able to see the trail all the way till we got to around ATL before it got complete darkness. The Capt told us were just about to ATL when i looked out my window ( I was in Seat 15f) after that i went to sleep since i wasnt going to get any that night. Thats my Space Shuttle Story. (BTW I can see the shuttle out my front door here in Dunedin on a clear day)

Bagpipes



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User currently offlineJkj777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 9276 times:



Quoting JBirdAV8r (Reply 17):
And I've never seen a Delta II "trash" flight in my life.

Trash was a joke for us sending waste products in to space in order to not deal with finding a place for it on earth. just a joke man.

there is no way that in the post 9/11 world you can get that close to a space shuttle launch. that airspace is sealed from the surface to space. these satellite missions happen all the time and usually require lest restrictive airspace.

just look at the date of the video and match it up to the space shutte launch records.


User currently offlineThorny From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 8987 times:



Quoting JBirdAV8r (Reply 17):

What makes you so sure?

A lot of little things just make it look unlike a Shuttle launch. But the clincher is the way the the contrail brightens a lot around one minute into the video. The Shuttle wouldn't do that, but a Delta II (which usually has nine solids, six fire on the ground and three fire one minute into flight) does.

Quoting Bagpipes (Reply 19):
On 07FEB01 I was flying UA on a 727 from TPA to ORD, I was flying to recruit training for the Navy. Just prior to boarding the 727-200 a space shuttle Launched ( i dont remeber whch one though, Maybe some one on here will Know?)

That was STS-98 Atlantis at 6:13pm ET, famous as one of the most visually spectacular space launches ever. The full moon was rising and the setting sun painted the Shuttle's contrail a rainbow of colors while the contrail cast a long shadow almost perfectly toward the moon. Gorgeous.

Quoting Jkj777 (Reply 20):
there is no way that in the post 9/11 world you can get that close to a space shuttle launch. that airspace is sealed from the surface to space. these satellite missions happen all the time and usually require lest restrictive airspace.

Sure you can. There's a busy north/south air corridor just to the west of KSC over the mainland. They don't close that off during launches. You can see the vapor trail of an airliner passing at a similar distance in this photo (you probably need to look at the hi-res version called L) from 2002.

http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/detail.cfm?mediaid=9281


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21530 posts, RR: 55
Reply 22, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 7541 times:



Quoting Curlyheadboy (Reply 16):
Jokes aside, the proposal it's called Project Constellation

I wouldn't be too hasty with the "jokes aside"; Project Constellation is turning out to be a pretty big joke.  Smile

Quoting Thorny (Reply 21):
A lot of little things just make it look unlike a Shuttle launch. But the clincher is the way the the contrail brightens a lot around one minute into the video.

It's also a little too vertical, isn't it?

-Mir



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User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 36
Reply 23, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 7170 times:

Shuttle or not, that was one sweet video! The only time I saw the Shuttle was the Atlantis on STS-81. We left MCO the day after the launch. Even though she was still on the pad, an amazing site to see. I will have to head down for a lauch before the fleet is retired though, one of those memories that last a lifetime I'm sure.


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User currently offline7gm7 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 71 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 5670 times:

Awesome Video!!! I think the commentary works very well with it too  Smile

Reminds of the time I saw the shuttle piggy-backed on NASA 905 flying low over home in the 80's. It must have deperated EWR but I was too young to track it and no internet yet.

Thanks for the post.


25 Comorin : I was on a CO flight EWR-PTY a few years ago and I saw a Space Shuttle launch from the port side of the aircraft. It was one of the most memorable exp
26 Post contains images Aaway : Not only that. Viewing the first few frames of the vid, at the lower left of the screen there appears to be a mountainous range just below the thicke
27 Bagpipes : thanks for the info, I thought it was the neatest thing to happen on a one of the most imprtant things to happen in my life and the view was incredib
28 AS739X : Thats would shut down Florida ASSFO
29 LVHGEL : I saw at dusk, flying from SJU-BOS, 1 hour into the flight, not the actual launch mind you, but the column of "smoke / vapor" left by the shuttle, ill
30 PC12Fan : Knew someone on board, didja? I got that close because a friend of mine had a cousin that was on one of the launches and I was invited to attend. Nig
31 Lnglive1011yyz : Actually, I *should* clarify. It shoulda said 4, not 3. Don't want to make myself look more important than I am I was at the Causeway, where me, and
32 Tcv : Perhaps the real question is: What would be the compensation from the airline for a ride like that?
33 Chapavaeaa : I've been to two shuttle launchs, both on the ground. First time was along Route 1A - daytime launch. The second was on KSC property next to a small p
34 Platinumfoota : More like how much would I have to pay for a ride like that
35 Arsenal@LHR : That rocket was insanely fast, it reached the AC planes altitude in like 30 seconds, talk about acceleration! I'd love to see a Space shuttle launch f
36 KELPkid : Used to be a common sight in ELP in the 1980's, they used BIF as a re-fueling stop when ferrying the shuttles back from Edwards AFB...
37 413X3 : I don't believe an un-powered shuttle would actually abort by breaking off from its rockets, turning around and descending. The only abort would be f
38 413X3 : And that gets my vote for worst commentary of all time. Seriously dude who shot the video, its better to let the pictures speak for themselves instead
39 Post contains links KELPkid : I suggest you take a look at this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_shuttle_abort_modes The particular scenario you described (an un-powered shuttl
40 Thorny : The Crew Compartment broke away from Challenger by accident (aerodynamic forces tore apart Challenger when the External Tank broke up at supersonic s
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