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Now That Xjet Is Leaving LGB, Who's Coming?!  
User currently offlineA380fo From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 322 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2572 times:

So September 2nd -

ExpressJet is DONE. And there gonna be leaving LGB, opening some more Commuter Slots. What do you guys think will happen with those?

Will a new carrier come in now?

More flights to current cities?

Let me know what you all think

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User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3923 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2549 times:
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i really wouldnt expect anyone to come in.......probably go unused. No one is going to throw some RJ flights in there at this rate. Maybe B6 adding some E190's??? Are those being considered as commuter slots??


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User currently offlineHawaiian717 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3188 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2492 times:

With all the cuts in the industry right now, I don't expect them to be immediately replaced.

Quoting CALMSP (Reply 1):
Maybe B6 adding some E190's??? Are those being considered as commuter slots??

The Embraer 190, as well as the CRJ-900 used by US Airways Express, don't qualify for commuter slots and use regular mainline slots.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24796 posts, RR: 46
Reply 3, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2482 times:

Speaking of commuter slots, US Airways(Mesa) will relinquishing its single slot also as the PHX CRJ200 flight gets the axe on Sept. 2nd.


From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2433 times:

It would be nice to see CO throw a couple regional flights at from IAH at it. But I can't see that making financial or operational sense for the airline.

But it would be darn convenient for me  

[My dad -- who I'm visiting as I type this -- lives darn close to LGB -- and directly under the normal departure pattern, normally I do CO's CLE-LAX nonstop, but if I could fly one stop in to (and particularly out of) LGB I would

Funny thing is there's an XJet billboard on the 405 and I was wondering about the same topic myself yesterday.

Lincoln
(Flying CO 634 LAX-CLE tonight; tentatively seat 1A...anyone else at LAX tonight?)

[Edited 2008-08-17 18:44:12]


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User currently offlineFlyboy7974 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 1540 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2232 times:

As much retrenching as ExpressJet is doing as well on their Continental Express side of operations, aside from branded, I doubt at all you'll see any new stations especially at that distance. As they start to rid their fleet of the E135, their fall schedule is taking a hit and the big expansion for CLE once again seems to be a starting point, with other hubs seeing reductions as well.

User currently offlinePgtravel From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 446 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2066 times:

I doubt we'll see anything. All 41 big jet slots are full, but only 5 commuter slots are taken (DL* to SLC). Even before XE announced it was leaving, there were commuter slots available if someone else wanted them. Unless they can get the weight limit raised to include E90/CR9 aircraft, I don't think we'll see anything until someone finds some spare Q400s lying around.

User currently offlineCa2ohhp From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 953 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1994 times:



Quoting LAXintl (Reply 3):
Speaking of commuter slots, US Airways(Mesa) will relinquishing its single slot also as the PHX CRJ200 flight gets the axe on Sept. 2nd.

Are you sure? Just because the flight is pulled doesn't necessarily mean the slot was relinquished. LGB has a dormancy period, which means after 180 days (I believe), if the slot is not being used it will be placed back into the slot pool for other carriers to bid on. But with XJet leaving, that puts a ton of commuter slots back into the slot pool, so US dropping it's one commuter slot is pretty much irrelevant - unless someone else comes in seeking all the commuter slots.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24796 posts, RR: 46
Reply 8, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1974 times:



Quoting Ca2ohhp (Reply 7):
Are you sure? Just because the flight is pulled doesn't necessarily mean the slot was relinquished.

Yes. If you go read the minutes of the airport commision is was indicated US/Mesa were returning their single slot.



From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5790 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1959 times:



Quoting Ca2ohhp (Reply 7):
Are you sure? Just because the flight is pulled doesn't necessarily mean the slot was relinquished.



Quoting LAXintl (Reply 8):
Yes. If you go read the minutes of the airport commision is was indicated US/Mesa were returning their single slot.

Although not always as accurate as the actual minutes, US giving up the slot was also reported in the media:
US Airways also recently told Long Beach Airport that it will relinquish its lone commuter slot to Phoenix in the fall. So only five of 25 commuter slots will be filled in the fall, and all of those are controlled by Delta Air Lines.
http://www.presstelegram.com/business/ci_10160334



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User currently offlineCwldude From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 691 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1836 times:

I know it isn't the most reliable source, but Wikipedia says that only 5 of 25 commuter slots at LGB will be open after ExpressJet leave? So I guess that means there's still some free now seeing as they don't have 25 daily slots, I guess that means they aren't gonna get filled anytime soon?


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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24796 posts, RR: 46
Reply 11, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1808 times:

Wikipedia is definately wrong -- its the other way around. 20 of 25 commuter slots will be vacant with DL(Skywest) using the remaining 5 for SLC flights.

Anyhow XJT had 6 LGB slots 2x FAT, 2x MRY, 2x RNO.

Additionally looking at airport stats LGB was not too hot for XJT as their LF's were pretty anemic - 56% June, 58% May, 55% April, 56% March, 51% February.



From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
User currently offlineCOERJ145 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1788 times:

Maybe UA could start SFO or DEN service with the CRJ-700, or have QX run a PDX flight.

User currently offlineFlyboy7974 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 1540 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1727 times:



Quoting COERJ145 (Reply 12):
Maybe UA could start SFO or DEN service with the CRJ-700, or have QX run a PDX flight.

you miss the point, the aircraft falls into a heavier weight range and thus exceeds limits for the commuter slots.


User currently offlineLambert747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1638 times:



Quoting COERJ145 (Reply 12):
Maybe UA could start SFO or DEN service with the CRJ-700, or have QX run a PDX flight

SFO-LGB is going to be B6, for now

Quoting A380fo (Thread starter):

ExpressJet is DONE. And there gonna be leaving LGB, opening some more Commuter Slots. What do you guys think will happen with those?

SMF-LGB downgrade to E190 possible.

Other possible LGB markets could be DEN, PHX, RDU


User currently offlineTravellin'man From United States of America, joined May 2001, 530 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1508 times:

The whole noise limit issue as it relates to commuter slots, and the unlikelihood of the City Council creating a variance for E190's was amply discussed in another thread a few months back, so I won't resume the why's and wherefore's. I did want to add, though, that all the planes seem pretty loud as they roar over Wardlow and Bixby Knolls on take-off, even Jetblue's brand new A320's, but I have to say that I found the Expressjet takeoffs just as loud, if not louder, much as I was able to compare. I can't imagine the E190 is any worse.


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User currently offlineA380fo From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 322 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 11 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1323 times:



Quoting Flyboy7974 (Reply 13):
you miss the point, the aircraft falls into a heavier weight range and thus exceeds limits for the commuter slots.

UM, Doesnt OO operate about 3 flights A DAY with the 700 under the commuter slots? MHM.. i think it would be good if UAX came in and fly to at least DEN and maybe SFO competing with B6...


User currently offlineDurangoMac From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 699 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 11 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1310 times:



Quoting Flyboy7974 (Reply 13):
the aircraft falls into a heavier weight range and thus exceeds limits for the commuter slots.

OO's 700 flights are allowed for the time being because they're asking for a variance for 1 pound, yes 1 pound, and according to the rules OO can fly using the commuter slot until the people in charge make a decision.

Apparently QX's 700's are slightly less, not sure exactly why but that's the case and they fit into the commuter slot, go figure.


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