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LH CFO Elected To B6 Board, Decisions 4 The Future  
User currently offlineOta1 From Germany, joined Apr 2008, 399 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 2 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2231 times:
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LH's CFO Stephan Gemkow has been elected to the board of B6 as the secend LH member today.

But that's actually not what's exciting about it - not really a surprise to me.
The exciting thing is a statement he made:

"I am pleased to join the JetBlue Board of Directors," Mr. Gemkow said. "JetBlue is at the point in its history where decisions made today have long-lasting impact on its competitiveness as a unique brand. I look forward to the challenge."


Is this just bla bla or can we expect some major announcement like Star membership, longhaul operations by b6???
I know this is speculative however I'd really like to know what you guys read into this?


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User currently offlineCAL764 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 2 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2221 times:

Sounds like there's potential, but it could just be corporate hype...You never know.


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User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7076 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (6 years 2 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2185 times:

I don't read nothing special into it but nevertheless I believe that LH has great plans with Jetblue given the trouble their other US partners are facing right now.


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User currently offlineDALCE From Netherlands, joined Feb 2007, 1704 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (6 years 2 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2135 times:

I wouldn't be too surprised if B6 is going to operate some longhaul flights in the near future.
The big US carriers are all facing their own problems and this might be perfect timing for B6 to start longhaul ops.



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User currently offlineJetBlueGuy2006 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1661 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2045 times:



Quoting Ota1 (Thread starter):
like Star membership

Doubt it, jetBlue doesn't seem like the kind of carrier that would ever join an alliance.

Also, I might get flammed for this, but is it just me, or is Star getting a little to big?



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User currently offlineUAL777UK From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 3356 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (6 years 2 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2019 times:



Quoting DALCE (Reply 3):
I wouldn't be too surprised if B6 is going to operate some longhaul flights in the near future.
The big US carriers are all facing their own problems and this might be perfect timing for B6 to start longhaul ops.

If they were to do this it would put a "fly in the ointment" as far as Star members and LH are concerned. With CO about to join Star and having applied for ATI along with AC, UA and LH and being a major playing NYC it would not make sense for that to happen.
However if there had been no LH interest in B6 whatsoever then I guess anything is possible although I feel thats way off. B6 need to just keep there eye on the ball "at home " at the moment.

Quoting JetBlueGuy2006 (Reply 4):
Also, I might get flammed for this, but is it just me, or is Star getting a little to big?

Thre was a si,ilar discussion not too long ago on here. As far as I am concerned you cannot be big enough, unless there is a massive overlap, which IMHO there is not at present.


User currently offlineOta1 From Germany, joined Apr 2008, 399 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 2 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1974 times:
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Quoting CAL764 (Reply 1):
Sounds like there's potential, but it could just be corporate hype...You never know.

That's what I think.

Quoting JetBlueGuy2006 (Reply 4):
Doubt it, jetBlue doesn't seem like the kind of carrier that would ever join an alliance.

Also, I might get flammed for this, but is it just me, oris Star getting a little to big?

While I agree with you that B6 most probably won't join an alliance any time soon, I think it naturally comes up regarding LH's involvement in *A.
However I wouldn't rule it out forever. Four years ago most people would have said CO would never leave ST for *A, ten years ago most Europeans would have ruled out any major international mergers among European airlines or that an airline like AB which had just a handful of 737s operating charter flights those days would become Germany's second largest. 30 or 25 years ago people would have called you nuts if you told them that Pan Am would cease to exist at some point.So what I try to point out that the industry is rapidly changing, day by day. I think there is no "never ever " in that business - we have just seen way too many of them happening in the past.


Well, I guess that's a point of view, but as long as the carriers involved and of course their customers benefit from it there is no too big.

[Edited 2008-08-18 08:37:44]

User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31096 posts, RR: 85
Reply 7, posted (6 years 2 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1950 times:
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There is no real reason for B6 to launch intercontinental operations since Star already has three American intercontinental members. While I expect US will not be with Star over the long term, B6's role at JFK is important to LH and will complement CO's hub at EWR. UA has abandoned the NYC market and, frankly, is better off for it in that they can reinforce IAD to offer a second East Coast international gateway which allows Star to better balance flights between the two areas.

User currently offlineOta1 From Germany, joined Apr 2008, 399 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 2 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1924 times:
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Okay this might shed a little more light on the matter:

The JetBlue stake "represents the first significant investment by a European air carrier in a U.S. point-to-point air carrier," Lufthansa said in a statement. "The two airlines are now working together on shaping their future cooperation for the benefit of their customers."

see here


User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1990 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 2 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1690 times:



Quoting UAL777UK (Reply 5):
Thre was a si,ilar discussion not too long ago on here. As far as I am concerned you cannot be big enough, unless there is a massive overlap, which IMHO there is not at present.

B6 has said in the past that they are not interested in joing an alliance, and I doubt one board member will change that. If they did, however, you will have massive overlap in the Northeast:

BOS will have a B6 hublet and US focus city.
NYC will have the B6 hub at JFK, the US focus city at LGA, and the CO hub at EWR.
PHL will have the US hub.
PIT will have the US hublet.
CLE will have the CO hub.
WAS will have the UA hub and B6 focus city at IAD, and the US focus city at DCA.

Quoting DALCE (Reply 3):
The big US carriers are all facing their own problems and this might be perfect timing for B6 to start longhaul ops.

As much as I want to see it, I doubt we'll see it for a while. They should work on their domestic network first, although New York, Boston, and Florida have a lot of O&D for TATL flights.



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User currently offlineAerohottie From Australia, joined Mar 2004, 802 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (6 years 2 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1626 times:



Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 9):
B6 has said in the past that they are not interested in joing an alliance, and I doubt one board member will change that. If they did, however, you will have massive overlap in the Northeast:

BOS will have a B6 hublet and US focus city.
NYC will have the B6 hub at JFK, the US focus city at LGA, and the CO hub at EWR.
PHL will have the US hub.
PIT will have the US hublet.
CLE will have the CO hub.
WAS will have the UA hub and B6 focus city at IAD, and the US focus city at DCA.

I wouldn't call that overlap... more like market saturation. And thats a good thing



What?
User currently offlineReality From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 495 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 2 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1542 times:



Quoting Ota1 (Thread starter):
longhaul operations by b6???



Quoting DALCE (Reply 3):
this might be perfect timing for B6 to start longhaul ops.

Jet Blue already has a lot of coast to coast flights. Is 6 hours not considered long-haul?

Or, what do you mean by long-haul? Intercontinental?

Thanks.


User currently offlineOta1 From Germany, joined Apr 2008, 399 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 2 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1529 times:
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Quoting Reality (Reply 11):
Jet Blue already has a lot of coast to coast flights. Is 6 hours not considered long-haul?

Or, what do you mean by long-haul? Intercontinental?

You're right, stupid me!
I meant intercontinental operations of course. Sorry for causing confusion on your end.


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