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Where Will EK Fly To Next In The USA  
User currently offlineN104UA From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 897 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7568 times:

My Guess is in Order of next Announcement
IAD
DFW
MIA
ORD
MSP
DEN
SEA

With how fast their fleet is expanding is there any reason we will not see EK serving about 10 US cities a day?


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User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12321 posts, RR: 35
Reply 1, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7561 times:

Didn't they mention a number of cities during their recent A380 press tour of the US? I can't remember them all, but I was certain that ORD was mentioned. Miami also seems highly possible, in due course.

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32175 posts, RR: 72
Reply 2, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7559 times:

I bet Chicago and Washington are next; followed by Miami and Newark.

Though it's anybody's guess as to when "next" is. I think we might not see them launch a new U.S. city until 2010.



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User currently offlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7320 posts, RR: 24
Reply 3, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7494 times:

I think the next ones will be:

ORD
IAD
EWR

After that its anyones guess, but I think (in no uncertain order) MIA, DTW, and DFW would be looked at as well.



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User currently offlineMMEPHX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7436 times:

What is the demand from the US to Dubai? I'm trying to figure what, if any, advantages there are in going to say Asia via Dubai rather than via Europe or from the West Coast USA.

Is it quicker to Australia from the East Coast if you go via Dubai or is it faster via LAX?

I'm just not clear where all the demand is coming from for EK to expand in such a way, for sure they've done their homework so it must make sense to them but can someone explain it to me? Some O&D to Dubai of course but for all the proposed services?

....no one thinks PHX has a chance? Mayor seems to think it is a 'dead cert'  Smile


User currently offlineOjas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2919 posts, RR: 24
Reply 5, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7423 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 2):
bet Chicago and Washington are next;

I too think the same. ORD & IAD will come up soon.



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User currently offlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7320 posts, RR: 24
Reply 6, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7391 times:



Quoting MMEPHX (Reply 4):
Is it quicker to Australia from the East Coast if you go via Dubai or is it faster via LAX?

Its much faster through the West Coast.



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User currently offlineBbinn333 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7392 times:



Quoting N104UA (Thread starter):
My Guess is in Order of next Announcement
IAD
DFW
MIA
ORD
MSP
DEN
SEA

With how fast their fleet is expanding is there any reason we will not see EK serving about 10 US cities a day

MCO ???????


User currently offlineMMEPHX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7345 times:



Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 6):
Its much faster through the West Coast.

I thought it would be. Which is why I'm struggling to figure out the market that EK is after in the US. They market Dubai as a great way of getting to India/Asia/Australia from Europe, and that makes perfect sense but where are the sensible connection opportunities from the US?


User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4716 posts, RR: 44
Reply 9, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7345 times:



Quoting N104UA (Thread starter):
My Guess is in Order of next Announcement
IAD
DFW
MIA
ORD
MSP
DEN
SEA

lol...just relax...its not confirmed 100% if a new US city will be launched next year but if something does come up, it will be ORD for sure.


User currently offlineJmc1975 From Israel, joined Sep 2000, 3242 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7345 times:

PHX will likely happen before MSP or DEN. Phoenix city officials are actively pursuing EK.


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User currently offlineFlynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7314 times:

My guess would be Topeka, Kansas (FOE).

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32175 posts, RR: 72
Reply 12, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 7303 times:



Quoting Jmc1975 (Reply 10):
Phoenix city officials are actively pursuing EK.

They're wasting their time. It's not happening. Why don't they actively pursue getting a daily flight to London - which is further being reduced to 5x weekly this winter.



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User currently offlineRookinla From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 307 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 7297 times:



Quoting N104UA (Thread starter):
MSP

I'm curious about the rationale for this one. NW has a stranglehold on this hub. What would the demand even be for MSP-DXB? It would have to rely on connections to have a chance. The problem is that NW/KL can connect passengers efficiently through AMS. EK will probably be looking for bigger O&D markets for a while.

Quoting MMEPHX (Reply 4):
....no one thinks PHX has a chance? Mayor seems to think it is a 'dead cert'

Short-term: Pipedream
Long-term: Possible

Quoting Bbinn333 (Reply 7):
MCO ???????

I wish but not likely for a while. Probably a better chance than MSP and PHX though...


User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3860 posts, RR: 23
Reply 14, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 7274 times:

I am pulling for SUX or FAT.....

Seriously, I would wager that ORD and IAD are likely the next candidates.

Thomas



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User currently offlineRookinla From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 307 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 7236 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 12):
They're wasting their time. It's not happening. Why don't they actively pursue getting a daily flight to London - which is further being reduced to 5x weekly this winter.

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If PHX can't or won't support a daily London flight, why in God's name would EK have them at the top of the list? The EK list is just a list of possibilities and there are many cities on that list that are unlikely to see an EK bird in the next five years or so...including PHX.

Quoting Jmc1975 (Reply 10):
Phoenix city officials are actively pursuing EK.

Hopefully they aren't spending much money on this pursuit. Other airports with much more to offer passenger-wise are also pursuing more likely carriers and coming up shooting blanks. Example...MCO and AF. It's great to dream but if PHX can't get daily BA service and lost LH it just doesn't seem reasonable. Very little O&D and certainly not enough O&D and connecting passengers to fill a 777.


User currently offlineBA744PHX From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 333 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 7197 times:



Quoting Rookinla (Reply 15):
Hopefully they aren't spending much money on this pursuit. Other airports with much more to offer passenger-wise are also pursuing more likely carriers and coming up shooting blanks

Well they aren't, Dubai officals have paid for PHX officals to travel to DXB earlier this year and two more trips this year as well. Also additional trips from officals in DXB will be in PHX a few more times this year. So at least its DXB spending the money


User currently offlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7320 posts, RR: 24
Reply 17, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 7189 times:



Quoting Rookinla (Reply 15):
If PHX can't or won't support a daily London flight, why in God's name would EK have them at the top of the list? The EK list is just a list of possibilities and there are many cities on that list that are unlikely to see an EK bird in the next five years or so...including PHX.

Well maybe for some sand Enthusiests!  Silly

It could be called the desert express.

PHX isnt going to happen. Its just not. One of the things that helps EK out is the connections to India and the Middle East. Thats what the SFO and LAX flights are going to be riding on. The O&D is big to DXB from here, but it HUGE to India from SFO and LAX and to Iran from LAX (not to mention other parts of the middle East). They will make bank out here.



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User currently offlineFlyingJHawk From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 88 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 7170 times:



Quoting Flynavy (Reply 11):
My guess would be Topeka, Kansas (FOE).

That would be great. I drive by that airport on my way to my weekly trip to Wichita. Of course this is zero chance of happening, but it would be cool nonetheless.


User currently offlineBP1 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 593 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 7170 times:

Who knows, PHX just spent $650,000.00 USD to help BA advertise its flight when BA says the PHX-LHR flight is doing fine.

Maybe if PHX, which is spending $300K per year with Oliver Wyman over the next 3 years to attract new service to Phoenix perhaps they will be sucessful in getting EK to Phoenix.



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User currently offlineBoeing747_600 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1290 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7095 times:



Quoting N104UA (Thread starter):
My Guess is in Order of next Announcement
IAD
DFW
MIA
ORD
MSP
DEN
SEA

and dont forget the Greater Chicago Rockford International Airport (RFD) !!! Big grin

Now that Malev have pulled out, I'm sure EK can manage to grab a slot before carriers from all 4 overseas continents start their feeding frenzy Big grin


User currently offlineN104UA From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 897 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7051 times:



Quoting Rookinla (Reply 15):
If PHX can't or won't support a daily London flight, why in God's name would EK have them at the top of the list? The EK list is just a list of possibilities and there are many cities on that list that are unlikely to see an EK bird in the next five years or so...including PHX.

If they do go to PHX it will be a once or twice a week ONLY or it could piggyback on and ORD or LAX Route and piggybacking would be the best chance for a DXB-PHX route



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User currently offlineRookinla From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 307 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 7010 times:



Quoting N104UA (Reply 21):
If they do go to PHX it will be a once or twice a week ONLY or it could piggyback on and ORD or LAX Route and piggybacking would be the best chance for a DXB-PHX route

With the other choices available, there is no way that EK will start an ULH route that operates only once or twice a week. In addition EK will fill the planes LAX-DXB...no piggybacks here. If PHX were to ever get EK to commit, they would have to convince them that they could support at least 5X Weekly...not gonna happen.


User currently offlineN104UA From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 897 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 7002 times:



Quoting Rookinla (Reply 22):
With the other choices available, there is no way that EK will start an ULH route that operates only once or twice a week. In addition EK will fill the planes LAX-DXB...no piggybacks here. If PHX were to ever get EK to commit, they would have to convince them that they could support at least 5X Weekly...not gonna happen.

Agreed I was saying that the only way to get a EK flight it would have to be a piggyback



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User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 24, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 6883 times:

According to Emirates' latest release, Chicago, Washington, Dallas and Atlanta are being closely looked at.

The success of the LAX and SFO flights will likely dictate the next (if any) move. If SFO doesn't work, I doubt DFW or ATL will.



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25 Eghansen : From the east coast, it is shorter to go to India and Pakistan eastbound. Singapore is halfway around the world from New York. NYC to Tokyo, Seoul, B
26 LAXdude1023 : No dude, the question I was answering was reguarding Australia. There arent nonstops to Australia to those gateways. Go back and read what I quoted.
27 Lambert747 : Minneapolis? What is the O&D demand from MSP-DXB? How many useful connections can EK create from the MSP market via DXB? Denver? What is the O&D dema
28 Eghansen : Sorry. You are correct about Australia.
29 Lightsaber : I seem to be the sole holdout who thinks IAD is sufficiently served by UA. Otherwise, I think the order should be MIA, EWR, and MIA. Yea... trivial r
30 Lambert747 : LAX and SFO will be greatly supported for the long term with Indian subcontinent connections alone, adding to that the LAX-THR traffic. Both routes w
31 Af773atmsp : It would be nice to have EK 777 service to MSP. Maybe in 2010.
32 Ssides : I'd love to see it, but VFR traffic from Indians and Pakistanis alone won't justify EK service. I would say that SEA, PHX, DFW, DEN, ORD, ATL, DTW, I
33 Ikramerica : There is a very large population of African Muslims in the area, so if EK can connect them through Dubai, they might gain traction. In the reverse di
34 MAH4546 : Not happening anytime soon. Neither is going to justify MSP-DXB service. Realisticlly, there are only five cities that are near certain to see Emirat
35 Greenair727 : CLE with its strong medical base and connections throughout UAE. It may not warrant daily service, but perhaps 3x or 4x.
36 Ikramerica : I agree, for now. But at some point EK will fly there. They have 250 widebodies in the pipeline, and they will have to send them to places that don't
37 MAH4546 : True, but most of those places will be in Europe, Africa, and Asia, IMO. Though maybe we will see them develop a strong trans-Atlantic network, despi
38 Ssides : There is no way these niche passenger markets would ever justify EK service. It's all about business travel, business travel, and business travel. Wo
39 RayChuang : I wouldn't be surprised that EK may eventually upgrade on the SFO-DXB route to a 777-300ER with a technical stop at SNN because here in the San Franc
40 Ssides : Why would these passengers endure a tech stop in SNN, then a layover at DXB, when they could fly SFO-BOM nonstop, or another airline on a much shorte
41 777STL : Maybe because PHX is the 5th largest metro area in the US? PHX will see EK service long before MSP, DTW, or SEA will. Not to mention LH is taking a l
42 Post contains links Ssides : Umm ... Phoenix is the 13th largest metro area, not the 5th: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_o...tes_Metropolitan_Statistical_Areas Plus, it's not
43 Super80DFW : Why Miami and Washington? Whats in Miami that would attract EK? With UA starting IAD-DXB, would UA have the market covered before EK gets to it IF EK
44 SNCntry32 : People need to get the notion out of thier head that MSP will be happening. Never say never, but when MSP can not support year round serivce to CDG, l
45 Ikramerica : This is the first I've heard that "lots" of those aircraft won't be delivered until 2020. EK, AFAIK, is scheduled to receive all of their planes on o
46 KGAIflyer : I'm thinking to myself, the Dulles folks worked very hard to get Qatar Airways which connects to nine cites in India, four in Pakistan, six other midd
47 Af773atmsp : Less demand to Europe because of high ticket prices and fees, and high oil prices were also one of the reasons why MSP-CDG didn't work well.
48 777stl : I meant 5th largest city, not metro area.
49 DYK : EK operating into Seattle is plausible in my opinion. EK would draw traffic from the region including Vancouver and Calgary. EK can not fly into Cana
50 Post contains images Boeing747_600 : Hey, quite a few Indians and Pakistanis are Instrument-Rated!! Sorry, Couldnt resist [Edited 2008-08-19 09:54:59]
51 Tommione : Dont you give ATL a chance ??
52 Post contains links MAH4546 : Emirates has already publicly discussed their desire to fly to Miami in the long-term. There is strong leisure and business travel between Miami and
53 B752OS : A ton of people from the middle east come to Boston for college and medical treatment. Also, DXB is a great connecting point for India, in addition t
54 Bond007 : I don't think it'll be too long before they are flying to the following: ROW MZJ GYR VCV MHV Although I may be wrong, since they probably have enough
55 Qantas777 : I think: RSW ACY BFL TUL
56 N104UA : They will be there soon when they are parked
57 Bond007 : Oh, I wasn't suggesting it was anything more than one-way! Jimbo
58 Thomasphoto60 : Yep, I completely agree with this list of new destinations for some of EK's jets Thomas
59 Brilondon : Of course he does. It is part of his job to attract new investment opportunities for his city.
60 ROSWELL41 : I know I am going to step on some toes here. Emirates is quickly emerging as a global premium carrier. Emirates is going to serve the 'World Class' ci
61 TN757Flyer : Unless EK joins an alliance, which they seem not inclined to do, I can't see them making a major push into the U.S. outside the top 5-8 cities in term
62 DeltaL1011man : I think Macon, Georgia. MCN Funny They will get killed by Delta. Sure EK has a better product but DL has Atlanta on lock. read above. I think DFW has
63 Thomasphoto60 : ROSEWELL41, Doesn't EK currently service another 'important' US city at the moment? Thomas
64 B752OS : I am just curious as to how you think EK would fly HNL-DXB. Considering it is longer than DXB-LAX, which would be their longest flight, they would pr
65 ROSWELL41 : You are correct about IAH. I guess I should have added that to the list.
66 Super80DFW : 1) ORD 2) MIA 3) DFW 4) EWR 5) IAD 6) BOS How does that look? I'm not really sure about IAD because UA is starting service to DXB, so would DXB-IAD re
67 Thomasphoto60 : Yeah not all that uncommon, IAH is easily forgettable. Thomas
68 EVA777SEA : Try Microsoft. Most Iranians that come to the US have no intent of going back.
69 MAH4546 : Then how do explain the large LAX-THR market in both directions?
70 Ipodguy7 : 1) IAD 2) ORD 3) BOS 4) DFW 5) EWR 6) MIA 7) SEA 8) ATL
71 CALMSP : i'm going to say either IAD or DFW. I'm surprised at how many pax we have transfer from DXB-IAH-DFW. That is by far our largest transfer market on EK'
72 Lambert747 : That is an uninformed and false comment. I would draw attention to the large traffic for VFR and business purposes between LAX-THR via any number of
73 Thomasphoto60 : Interesting do you have a ballpark figure? Thomas
74 Ssides : I must say I'm surprised - I have also heard that EK is taking fewer connections at IAH than expected; in other words, a larger % of traffic on the r
75 Lambert747 : Interesting as it is widely know for DL their largest DXB connecting market from ATL is IAH.
76 Thomasphoto60 : Perhaps DL should make the route a same plane service. Love to see one of their widebodies here. BTW, what are the using on the ATL-DXB run, I assume
77 Ssides : Well, the flight is already marketed as the same "flight" -- DL8 is routed IAH-ATL-DXB, but changes from an MD-88 to the 77L in ATL. Likewise, DL7 is
78 CALMSP : there are days that 1/2 the airplane is connecting traffic to CO.
79 Lightsaber : I believe, with UA flying IAD-DXB, that EK expanding to Dulles is overkill in 2008/2009. I have a very different opinion for 2010+. Miami is a given.
80 Thomasphoto60 : Well, thats the hot rumor right now, here. It is speculated that before EK introduces their "trimmed down 380" to IAH, they likely will do a daily do
81 CALMSP : I dont have any insider info for class of service on EK. But, I also wouldn't be surprised to see a 2nd flight operate if not daily, 4-6x/week.
82 Mariner : Gold Coast? Probably. Six years before HNL? Maybe. They could always go the other way and use their beyond rights from AKL to HNL - or even LAX. They
83 Lightsaber : Isn't that a.net? Interesting. I hadn't considered the 5th freedom right path. It seems as if EK is focusing on DXB direct flights the last year or s
84 Mariner : That's true. Except that those of us living Down Under can fly Emirates without ever going near DXB. I've no idea if they plan to extend this, but th
85 Ssides : All cabins seem to do well (with 90%+ loads), although I would assume that F is largely upgraded Skywards Gold members.
86 Maxisno1 : I have no objections if they did that .
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