JM's last A-340 was used on the KIN-JFK route after JM pulled out of LHR. However, JM's plan was to get rid of the A-340 earlier this year but they failed to adhere to their lease agreement and the A-340 sat inactive at KIN for weeks. It is now undergoing heavy maintenance in Manila.
KennyK From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 478 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 13397 times:
Would it not have made more sense to use an A332 on the long haul routes, better economies and pilot transition from the A343 would not have been too difficult?
I am hoping to speak with my contact at JM tomorrow, he has been busy in France during the past couple of weeks regarding A340 6Y-JMP. I will post any developements regarding JM aircrafts in this thread.
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Zeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 7729 posts, RR: 73 Reply 6, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 13294 times:
Quoting Psimpson (Reply 5): I am hoping to speak with my contact at JM tomorrow, he has been busy in France during the past couple of weeks regarding A340 6Y-JMP. I will post any developements regarding JM aircrafts in this thread.
I thought they were getting an A340 back in their fleet later this year ?
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Jfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 7350 posts, RR: 7 Reply 7, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 13218 times:
Air Jamaica should concentrate on its mission, bringing tourists to its island home. It should have one type of plane, A320's and forget A340's. Long Haul is another type, if they must do it why not a 763ER ?.
Psimpson From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 280 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 13219 times:
Quoting Zeke (Reply 6): I thought they were getting an A340 back in their fleet later this year ?[/quote
I know A340 6Y-JMM is undergoing C check with Lufthansa Techniks in Manila, and A340 6Y-JMP departed France for Los Angeles last week painted in Turkish Livery. I believe 6Y-JMP may also go for check with Lufthansa Techniks in Manila. Not sure whats happening regarding JM A340s, but hopefully i will get to speak to my good contact tomorrow to find out.
I will also enquire about the A319
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Falcon flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1293 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 13049 times:
Not to hijack the thread but who's been operating the 757 flights the last several days with AJM numbers?
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USAirALB From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 2681 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 13000 times:
Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 7): Air Jamaica should concentrate on its mission, bringing tourists to its island home.
good point...going to LHR was a money cutter. JFK should not have been operated with a 340
AirJamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2318 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 12839 times:
Quoting SCL767 (Reply 2): JM's last A-340 was used on the KIN-JFK route after JM pulled out of LHR
Also was used on KIN/YYZ as well.
Quoting USAirALB (Reply 11): JFK should not have been operated with a 340
Remember KIN/JFK is a high VFR route so it does serve its purpose especially during peak periods.
Quoting KennyK (Reply 4): Would it not have made more sense to use an A332 on the long haul routes, better economies and pilot transition from the A343 would not have been too difficult?
I always wondered why they chose to operate the A340's on the LHR route as opposed to the A330. I think an A330 three times a week to LGW would have been more economical. Also I don't think they needed to fly to the UK daily. BA serves KIN/LGW three times weekly and its working quite fine. VS twice weekly B747 services each to MBJ and KIN is also working well for them.
AirJamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2318 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 12654 times:
Quoting SCL767 (Reply 16): Deployed to YYZ I hope since the codeshare with AC will end.
I figure the A340 will do both KIN/JFK and KIN/YYZ rotations. And with the code share agreement ending we can expect to eventually see AC's A319 daily in KIN and the B767 during the winter months. Side tracking a bit. I always hear good reviews re LAN's services and I can't help to wonder how it compares with the services of CM. I asked this question in another thread but didn't get an answer. I get the feeling LAN's inflight is superior to that of CM's but I have never flown either of them so can't say.
SCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8273 posts, RR: 5 Reply 21, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 12590 times:
Quoting AirJamaica (Reply 17): I get the feeling LAN's inflight is superior to that of CM's but I have never flown either of them so can't say.
Hard to compare due to the fact that CM's central hub is PTY, and CM only operate two types of aircraft. LAN has hubs/focus cities throughout South America. Also LAN flies long-haul routes to the U.S., Europe, SYD, AKL, Easter Island (IPC) , Tahiti (PPT). And soon the Galapagos Islands. LAN used to fly to Mt. Pleasant, Falkland Islands, UK, in the past. I hope they return to the Falklands.
Excellent! Hopefully it will increase in frequency.
Quoting MD11junkie (Reply 22): What does this have to do with this thread?
Because both Air Jamaica and Hummingbird are Commonwealth citizens and I just wanted to inform them that their are British Islands down here with air-links, like in the West Indies. It's an Island thing.
AirJamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2318 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 12525 times:
Quoting MD11junkie (Reply 22): What does this have to do with this thread?
Hence why I indicated that I was "side-tracking a bit " after replying to the A340 subject matter in my reply # 17.
Quoting SCL767 (Reply 21): Hard to compare due to the fact that CM's central hub is PTY, and CM only operate two types of aircraft. LAN has hubs/focus cities throughout South America. Also LAN flies long-haul routes to the U.S., Europe, SYD, AKL, Easter Island (IPC) , Tahiti (PPT). And soon the Galapagos Islands. LAN used to fly to Mt. Pleasant, Falkland Islands, UK, in the past. I hope they return to the Falklands.
Thanks for the info. Didn't know LAN's services was that extensive.
jamaica...no problem.
25 SFO777200LR: I thought I read a while back that JM didn't like their Airbus fleet and was thinking of some 737 NGs. (Not trying to turn this into an A vs. B battle
26 Captaink: It was a nutcase attempt to find better economics in 733 that is to say the classics, because of high lease rates of the 320s/321s. That idea didn't
27 AirJamaica: True. I don't know why Mr. Conway thought antiquated B737-300's that other airlines were ridding their fleet of would work for JM. I for one wasn't p
28 Reggaebird: I flew on JM's "last" A340 from JFK-KIN on March 14, 2008. Coincidentally, I sat in First Class next to the acting COO of the airline at the time. The
29 Reggaebird: The A340's had a very nice First Class service until the end of March 2008. Here is a video of the interior during my last flight on a JM A340. There'
30 JAL: Will they abandon their long-haul routes altogether?
31 Captaink: Already done, whether LHR and/or MAN will be reinstated in the future is left to be seen, but JM currently has no long haul services. Coincidentally
32 SCL767: The A-340s were a horrible choice for BW; and BW stopped the bleeding on the LHR route by pulling out and dumping the 2 A-340s early on. Also, BW cou
33 Alianza: I've flown LA a few times. They have beautiful FA's, and inflight was also very good on longhaul (JFK-LIM). One flight t.o. was late due to repairs.
34 SCL767: Which US carrier do you think offers better service?
35 Jfk777: Air Jamaica should stick to teh short haul A320 fleet. A340's to teh UK are just a prestige thing to say we can fly to the UK too. AJ would be far bet
36 SCL767: JM sold their LHR slots to VS under an agreement that VS would operate flights to Jamaica, which they do. JM also code shares with VS in Jamaica, and
38 SCL767: Not on a regular basis since the 2 A-340s were needed to fly the LHR route. Also, BW's A-340s were not certified to fly into the U.S. BW's A-340s hea
39 AirJamaica: I dont think JM’s service to the UK was soley based on prestige. There is a large contingent of Jamaican ( and Caribbean ) immigrants in the London
40 SCL767: I have a problem with the price at which BW's slots were sold at LHR also.
41 AirJamaica: When I saw how much CO, NW, DL etc paid for the LHR slots earlier this year and compared it to what JM sold their LHR slots for I was shocked. They l
42 HummingBird: You are right, they ( Conway and Davies) literally gave it away......Apparently Branson gave them more than what was paid for the slots.....The PAC i
43 SCL767: I believe BW leased them to BA for three years only; BA does served LGW-BGI-POS, (soon to be LGW-UVF-POS), in a code share agreement with Caribbean A
44 AirJamaica: OK. There was also debates here on whether the JM/VS deal was in the best interest for JM as opposed to a JM/BA deal. JM/BA maintained a code share a
45 SCL767: Caribbean Airlines also has a daily flight POS-BGI-POS with BA's code on it to offer daily service to LGW via BGI. Also from POS, pax can connect ont
46 Alianza: Well, in comparing major carriers, and they each have their pros and cons, LA is on a par with the best American carriers. But, imo, they are not tha
47 SCL767: Please give an example. United, AA, CO, Northwest, Delta, or US Airways? And BTW this thread is about Air Jamaica's A-340s, not LAN. I suggest you po
48 Alianza: You are correct. I got side-tracked to give an opinion to AirJamaica's post. Apologies to 747400sp Saludos,
49 Psimpson: Hi people, i have just spoken to my friend at Air Jamaica who has just got back after being in France for 3 months in connection with A340 6Y-JMP. I h
50 AirJamaica: Thanks for the details regarding JM's A340's & A319 aircraft.
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