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QR To Start DOH - JFK From Oct 26th  
User currently offlineOjas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2974 posts, RR: 24
Posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 7502 times:

Starting Oct 26th

QR 1083 DOH - JFK 0820 1500
QR 1084 JFK - DOH 2235 1910

Flights to be operated daily by a B777-300ER


I think this will be a switch from DOH - EWR to DOH - JFK.

Strangely I thought they would go for a DOH - EWR non stop


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User currently offlineIloveboeing From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 796 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 7492 times:

Hmmm.........7 hours & 35 minutes is a long time for the aircraft to sit at JFK. Those must have been the best slots they could get. Will they have a gate for the aircraft to sit at during that time, or will it be moved to the tarmac to stay until departure time?

User currently offlineOjas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2974 posts, RR: 24
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 7490 times:



Quoting Iloveboeing (Reply 1):
Hmmm.........7 hours & 35 minutes is a long time for the aircraft to sit at JFK.

It is more to do with the connections at DOH. Something similar that even EK does with their EK 201/202 flight, and also exactly how QR operates the DOH - IAD leg.


And yes the DOH - EWR flight is still showing.



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User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3303 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 7459 times:
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Quoting Ojas (Reply 2):

And yes the DOH - EWR flight is still showing.

With the stop in GVA?

I'm very curious what I should tell my cousin to do regarding his January flights GVA-EWR with QR. Will he be reimbursed if the flights don't exist?

TIS



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User currently offlineOjas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2974 posts, RR: 24
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 7453 times:



Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 3):
With the stop in GVA?

yes the flight is still showing a stop in GVA



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User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8341 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 7417 times:
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Quoting Ojas (Thread starter):
Starting Oct 26th

QR 1083 DOH - JFK 0820 1500
QR 1084 JFK - DOH 2235 1910

Flights to be operated daily by a B777-300ER

Another great new airline to JFK nonstop. Much better then an A330 via GVA to Newark.


User currently offlineRunway23 From US Minor Outlying Islands, joined Jan 2005, 2192 posts, RR: 35
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 7410 times:



Quoting Ojas (Thread starter):
Starting Oct 26th

QR 1083 DOH - JFK 0820 1500
QR 1084 JFK - DOH 2235 1910

That flight will actually become QR83/84 replacing the current DOH-GVA-EWR.

DOH-GVA will become QR65/66 operated 4x weekly (0745-1215, 1345-2140 on 1X3X5X7).

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 3):
I'm very curious what I should tell my cousin to do regarding his January flights GVA-EWR with QR. Will he be reimbursed if the flights don't exist?

Reimbursement or perhaps if lucky an option to take LX or CO (although don't count on it)


User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3303 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 7344 times:
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Quoting Ojas (Reply 4):
yes the flight is still showing a stop in GVA



Quoting Runway23 (Reply 6):
That flight will actually become QR83/84 replacing the current DOH-GVA-EWR.

Conflicting information.

Anyone can confirm one of the above?

Thanks! And sorry to be so insistent! haha.

TIS



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User currently offlineOjas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2974 posts, RR: 24
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 7331 times:



Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 7):
Conflicting information.

runway23's information is right. It may be a matter of time when QR removes the QR 083/084 schedules. I just stated as of now they are showing the GVA-EWR leg.


QR is most likely to bump your friend to the GVA-FRA-EWR flight as they code share on the LH flights. Alternatively LX stands a good chance from GVA-JFK.



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User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3303 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 7263 times:
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Quoting Ojas (Reply 8):
QR is most likely to bump your friend to the GVA-FRA-EWR flight as they code share on the LH flights. Alternatively LX stands a good chance from GVA-JFK.

QR isn't in Star Alliance, right?

Also, will they notify my cousin before-hand or will he find out the hard way when he gets to GVA, and risk not being able to fly here that day if they don't accomodate him?

TIS



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User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 852 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 7224 times:

QR can fly 330-200 non stop DOH - EWR * 10,808 km / 5,836 nm* but guess they want bigger a/c so 77W is perfect for the route.

Why does it have to a stop in GVA?

//Micke  wave 



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User currently offlineEyeonthesky17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 95 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 7212 times:

When is this due to be loaded into the GDS' and their website? No information or changes are seen in either as of yet.

User currently offlineOjas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2974 posts, RR: 24
Reply 12, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 7207 times:

Quoting Eyeonthesky17 (Reply 11):
When is this due to be loaded into the GDS' and their website? No information or changes are seen in either as of yet.



EDIT: I had seen it from their website only, it seems it disappeared from there. I had tried a mock booking myself, as I'm headed to the USA in the first week of Sept.

[Edited 2008-08-19 08:46:06]


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User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3303 posts, RR: 13
Reply 13, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 7207 times:
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Quoting Solnabo (Reply 10):
Why does it have to a stop in GVA?

Because both DOH-GVA and GVA-EWR are huge markets. Why not take advantage of it if they can fill the flights?

TIS



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User currently offlineJetlanta From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 3264 posts, RR: 35
Reply 14, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 7072 times:



Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 13):

Because both DOH-GVA and GVA-EWR are huge markets.

They are? Exactly how many local PDEW do these markets generate? And how do you define the word "huge"? Anything over 1?


User currently offlineFlying Belgian From Belgium, joined Jun 2001, 2390 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 7015 times:
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Wasn't EWR a better choice than JFK, considering EK's huge presence in JFK and the number of Indian pax wanting to fly India-EWR via DOH in that case ??

It seems like GVA will be a terminator city. Four times a week with A330.

Isn't the India/Gulf - JFK market a bit overcrowded ?


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User currently offlineRonerone From Jordan, joined Aug 2004, 1660 posts, RR: 53
Reply 16, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 6996 times:



Quoting Jetlanta (Reply 14):
They are? Exactly how many local PDEW do these markets generate? And how do you define the word "huge"? Anything over 1?

Well as far as i know, QR did spend a lot of time on planning exactly where in Europe they should stop, and have 5th Freedom rights onwards to New York. Not sure of the pax figures though.

I was told that they initially wanted JFK, however they were only permitted into EWR because JFK was (still is) saturated with airlines/routes from that region. However though, amidst all that route planning, QR discovered IAD's potential hence, lauched that route as well.

Last i heard was GVA and EWR will be de-linked as soon as they have enough 77W's to do EWR. So this JFK thing comes as a surprise to me. But a nice one at that too  Smile


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User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 852 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 6843 times:

Wonder what QR´s 77L routes to US will be, DOH - LAX / SFO, DOH - DFW...

Qurius

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User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3940 posts, RR: 22
Reply 18, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 6828 times:



Quoting Solnabo (Reply 17):
DOH - DFW...

Nope no DFW, however QR starts IAH on 8, Dec!

Thomas



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25170 posts, RR: 22
Reply 19, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 6800 times:



Quoting Solnabo (Reply 10):
QR can fly 330-200 non stop DOH - EWR * 10,808 km / 5,836 nm

I think DOH-EWR would be beyond the economic range of a 332 without significant payload restrictions, especially westbound against usual headwinds.


User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4772 posts, RR: 43
Reply 20, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 6750 times:

This flight will hurt Etihad Airways at JFK more than anything due to its JFK arrival and departure timings which are horrible especially the departure timing compared to QR.

Let the games begin at JFK...triple threat EK vs QR vs EY  Wink


User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3303 posts, RR: 13
Reply 21, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 6694 times:
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Quoting Jetlanta (Reply 14):
They are? Exactly how many local PDEW do these markets generate? And how do you define the word "huge"? Anything over 1?

I don't have exact figures (though I'm sure they're available), but GVA-EWR almost always goes out completely full based on family, cousins, friends, and other a.netters who have flown the route at various times of the year. DOH-GVA is a big route because of the financial links between the two regions and the fact that the flight dictates the need for an A332 even when EWR isn't tagged on (as shown by the future plans QR has, as discussed above).

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User currently offlinePanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4898 posts, RR: 25
Reply 22, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 6635 times:
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Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 21):
but GVA-EWR almost always goes out completely full

Yes, but QR discounts like there's no tomorrow...and we're not talking small discounts...


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25170 posts, RR: 22
Reply 23, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 6618 times:



Quoting Panamair (Reply 22):
Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 21):
but GVA-EWR almost always goes out completely full

Yes, but QR discounts like there's no tomorrow...and we're not talking small discounts...

Yes, QR more often than not has the lowest fares GVA-EWR. Those one-stop 5th freedom routes are seldom very lucrative and are a rapidly dying breed.

I think the GVA stop was intended to be temporary until QR had enough aircraft to operate nonstop. Their CEO said recently that their goal was to operate nonstop to all their destinations.


User currently offlineAirmale From Botswana, joined Sep 2004, 377 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (6 years 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6085 times:

Yes, this is correct. When QR started DOH-GVA-EWR it only did so, because it did not have enough aircrafts around to fly to both cities nonstop. So this flight was never meant to last anyway..... and going nonstop to both places is certainly more interesting financially..... just to put up the crew in Geneva they need something of 30 hotel rooms in GVA daily....


.....up there with the best!
25 AABB777 : Do we have confirmation that the DOH-JFK flight starts Oct 26, 2008? Seems a bit soon to me.
26 Runway23 : Nothing official yet. But 2 months isn't too long for an airline which is already online in the market. You just rebook all the existing passengers f
27 Eyeonthesky17 : This is still not yet loaded into Amadeus or the website. Is there anyone who can confirm that this is actually happening?
28 QatarA340 : Yes, I can confim it since its in the Doha Airport website schedule. However, the GVA-EWR is still there. I do not believe this will end.. Someone pl
29 AABB777 : I was told that the DOH-JFK flight would start in August 2009, if not sooner. This fall seems really soon, but I guess doable if QR has the a/c. But..
30 Ojas : They already have 3 B77W in their fleet. One more B77W and they would be ready for another US non stop.
31 Behramjee : INDEED fyi...QR 83-84 is the EWR flight number which will be eventually transfered to JFK it seems. Qatar Airways - QR 1083 Depart: Doha Terminal: De
32 AznMadSci : So does this suggest a transfer from EWR to JFK? Or will QR offer a nonstop with another flight number to EWR?
33 AABB777 : Is the DOH-JFK route in the system? Just did a flight search and it still hows DOH-EWR for November....
34 Post contains links Behramjee : Ok...the official press announcement has been made : http://www.qatarairways.com/global/e...archive/press-release-25Aug08.html Qatar Airways today ann
35 Jfklucky777 : Amadeus.net shows this flight operating out of JFK's T4! Another 77W at T4...especially one with such a beautiful livery!
36 QatarA340 : Why isnt there First Class in this plane? The QR 77W business class seats are amongost the best out there, however, why didnt they make them flat? The
37 Post contains links and images Behramjee : QR's B 777-200LRs will have new fully lie flat 180 degree reclining seats and the B 77Ws J class cabin will also get the upgrade very soon...just have
38 B742 : On a side note; It seems that Doha-Geneva flights are back on sale as 4x weekly after temporarily being wiped from the res systems. I would like to th
39 QatarA340 : As much as I would like to be optimistic, I wouldnt rely on any of the newspapers in Qatar. They can sometimes and quite often give wrong information
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