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51 Flights Canceled In TPA  
User currently offlineMHTripple7 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1107 posts, RR: 8
Posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2826 times:

In case anyone is interested, 51 flights have been canceled that were supposed to depart TPA today due to tropical storm Fay.

http://www.bizjournals.com/tampabay/stories/2008/08/18/daily17.html

Will the airlines add any flights for these stranded passengers, or will they just rebook them on flights departing tomorrow?

[Edited 2008-08-19 09:14:55]

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User currently offlineJogales From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 437 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2657 times:

And in the end, it doesn't look like they were needed. The weather in TPA today has been just fine. We get worse afternoon thunderstorms....

Josh



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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2596 times:

Hurricane/TS-related cancellations can be made for a variety of reasons, none the least of which are if crosswind limits are expected to be exceeded. More than ceiling or visibility, this is the main "trigger" for a flight being able to operate or not in these kinds of conditions, since the last situation an airline wants to be in is having an aircraft get in, have the crosswinds come up beyond limits, and then the big $$$ aircraft be stuck there for the approaching storm to batter all to hell.

TPA and MCO both have elevated trains that run out from the terminals to the gates, and they have wind limits as well. How many employees can make it in (and thus what % of your normal gates can be used) is also a factor in making selective cancellations in order to "thin out" how many flights go into an airport that may (or may not) be impacted by such weather.


User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6507 posts, RR: 20
Reply 3, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2503 times:

Well if the crosswind across the 18/36s were that great, they could use 9-27


Listen Betty, don't start up with your 'White Zone' s*** again.
User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2471 times:



Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 3):
Well if the crosswind across the 18/36s were that great, they could use 9-27

True, at TPA, but not the case at MCO should weather from this same storm drive crosswinds adversely there.

My point was that there are many items that are taken in consideration for cancellations during large-scale weather like this, and not just the weather that actually shows up.  Wink


User currently offlineJetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2810 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2431 times:
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Yikes thats no fun. But I am sure the airlines did it for precaution. But it seems like whenever they do this kind of stuff prematurely the weather is never that bad.
Blue



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User currently offlineBagpipes From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 83 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2358 times:

9/27 at TPA is not that long, I have seen 737's land but i have never seen an airliner take off on that runway


Fly Song Jets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
User currently offlineRP TPA From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 852 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2344 times:

I remember the "no-name" storm of approx 1992. This was the MAJOR storm that formed in the gulf, moved over Florida with intense t-storms, and then moved up the coast causing massive blizzards along the way. The day after the storm passed TPA, the winds were something like 30kts out of the west. All planes, including jets, were taking off of 27. It's something that very rarely occurs here.

User currently offlineSwatpamike From United States of America, joined May 2004, 581 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2319 times:

Hello All

Quoting Bagpipes (Reply 6):
I have seen 737's land but i have never seen an airliner take off on that runway

I saw a BA 777 land on that runway a few years back.  scared 

Cheers

swatpamike
swabhmmike


User currently offlineMHTripple7 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1107 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2271 times:



Quoting Swatpamike (Reply 8):
I saw a BA 777 land on that runway a few years back.

I would've loved to see that!


User currently offlineRwy04LGA From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 3176 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2259 times:



Quoting Bagpipes (Reply 6):
9/27 at TPA is not that long, I have seen 737's land but i have never seen an airliner take off on that runway

I have, an Eastern 727...40 years ago!  old 



Just accept that some days, you're the pigeon, and other days the statue
User currently offlineCrogalski From United States of America, joined May 2005, 514 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2228 times:



Quoting Swatpamike (Reply 8):
I saw a BA 777 land on that runway a few years back.

They were using 27 a few months ago (close to a year) for pretty much all landing traffic, including DL 767's...



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User currently offlineMHTripple7 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1107 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2196 times:

Just an update:

DL has canceled 4 out of their 11 daily flights between TPA and ATL today. They've also canceled a TPA-JFK flight, a TPA-LGA flight, a TPA-CVG flight, and the TPA-LAX flight. All of these flights were scheduled to depart before noon.

US seems to have canceled some flights to but I'm not sure of which ones.

All other flights seem to be operating normally....


User currently offlineImperialEagle From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2630 posts, RR: 23
Reply 13, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 2131 times:



Quoting Bagpipes (Reply 6):
never seen an airliner take off on that runway

I've seen D10's and L-10's, and everything else take-off/land on 9/27, when the winds are strong enough.



"If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough!"
User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6507 posts, RR: 20
Reply 14, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2051 times:



Quoting Bagpipes (Reply 6):
9/27 at TPA is not that long, I have seen 737's land but i have never seen an airliner take off on that runway

I have seen takeoffs only once in the last few years, when Katrina was passing to the south.
Its' about as long as the main runway at DCA

Quoting Swatpamike (Reply 8):
I saw a BA 777 land on that runway a few years back.

And I got a pic!



Listen Betty, don't start up with your 'White Zone' s*** again.
User currently offlineBagpipes From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 83 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1930 times:

well i am provem wrong thanks everybody for your feedback, I woul dlove to see BA 777 or FX MD 11 on 9/27


Fly Song Jets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6507 posts, RR: 20
Reply 16, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1888 times:

I noticed at one point the wind at MCO was W at 22, gusting to 37. They couldn't operate on north/south runways in those conditions could they?


Listen Betty, don't start up with your 'White Zone' s*** again.
User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6507 posts, RR: 20
Reply 17, posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1733 times:

Well, yesterday (Sunday) with Gustov passing to the west, the winds were very strong from the east, and guess what?

They were landing on runway 9. I saw 3 aircraft takeoff from 9.(NW752, WN 73G, AA 738) All witnessed from the north side of the economy garage-great view!



Listen Betty, don't start up with your 'White Zone' s*** again.
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