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User currently offlineCityAirline From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 685 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 21632 times:

Hey all. The previous thread was sort of slow, and with over 200 posts, I figured it would be nice with the start of a new one, the 7th one.

Here's a link to the 6th post:
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/read.main/3876237/

So, to get us started:

1. Hong Kong Express Airways will launch daily B738 flights HKG-MNL-HKG from September 25.
2. Begining next summer, KL will deploy the 77W on ALL flights to MNL, up from the current 3 weekly.
3. Asiana will increase flights on their ICN-CRK-ICN from 10 weekly to double daily A320 from December.

//Alex


I don't fly to live, I live to fly...
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User currently offlineAirAmericaC46 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 590 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 21611 times:

Any news about InterIsland Airlines, Mosphil Aero, Pacific Pearl Airways? Any other domestic airlines? How about Cyclone Airways based in Cauayan, Isabela? What airline now flies tourists to Amanpulo in Pamalican Island? Thanks in advance.

User currently offlineAirlineaddict From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 419 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 21586 times:
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Quoting AirAmericaC46 (Reply 1):
What airline now flies tourists to Amanpulo in Pamalican Island?

I believe the airline is Island Aviation which flies Dornier 228-212. They also fly to El Nido in Palawan.


User currently offlineMarcoPoloWorld From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 630 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 21563 times:



Quoting CityAirline (Thread starter):
1. Hong Kong Express Airways will launch daily B738 flights HKG-MNL-HKG from September 25.
2. Begining next summer, KL will deploy the 77W on ALL flights to MNL, up from the current 3 weekly.
3. Asiana will increase flights on their ICN-CRK-ICN from 10 weekly to double daily A320 from December.

Thanks for posting.

Other than the KL enhancements (which were discussed in a separate thread the other day), none of this is really good news, is it?

MNL is already overserved as far as regional flights go, and all that an increase at CRK accomplishes is to feed exurban third-world primate city sprawl to an area that is at least two hours from Manila (when there is no traffic!) and which has no definable center.

Cathay flies 5-6x daily MNL-HKG, and Cebu Pacific has three dailies on the same route. Add to that, PAL. Do we need any more? How about some more service to enhance the economies in Visayas and Mindanao? Cathay is still the only carrier with a nonstop daytime flight HKG-CEB. Cebu-Mactan is an excellent airport with excellent connections, so flying into it internationally should be a winner - here's a list for one day (from FlightStats, for Aug 23):

ICN Seoul OZ 710 Asiana Airlines 12:50 AM 12:49 AM Landed
On-time 321
MNL Manila 5J 552 CEBU Pacific Air 4:00 AM Unknown
319
MNL Manila PR 842 Philippine Airlines 5:00 AM Unknown
320
DVO Davao 5J 593 CEBU Pacific Air 5:00 AM Unknown
319
ZAM Zamboanga 5J 433 CEBU Pacific Air 5:05 AM Unknown
319
TAC Tacloban PR 236 Philippine Airlines 6:00 AM Unknown
DH4
TAC Tacloban 2P 236^ Air Philippines 6:00 AM Unknown
DH4
MNL Manila 5J 560 CEBU Pacific Air 6:05 AM Unknown
320
MNL Manila PR 844 Philippine Airlines 6:45 AM Unknown
319
ILO Iloilo 5J 162 CEBU Pacific Air 8:00 AM Unknown
319
BCD Bacolod 5J 126 CEBU Pacific Air 8:05 AM Unknown
ATR
MNL Manila 5J 550 CEBU Pacific Air 8:05 AM Unknown
319
CGY Cagayan De Oro PR 285 Philippine Airlines 8:30 AM Unknown
DH4
CGY Cagayan De Oro 2P 285^ Air Philippines 8:30 AM Unknown
DH4
MNL Manila 5J 562 CEBU Pacific Air 9:00 AM Unknown
320
BCD Bacolod PR 230 Philippine Airlines 9:20 AM Unknown
DH4
BCD Bacolod 2P 230^ Air Philippines 9:20 AM Unknown
DH4
MNL Manila PR 848 Philippine Airlines 9:45 AM Unknown
320
DVO Davao 2P 26 Air Philippines 9:55 AM Unknown
737
DVO Davao PR 26^ Philippine Airlines 9:55 AM Unknown
737
MPH Caticlan 5J 136 CEBU Pacific Air 10:15 AM Unknown
ATR
PPS Puerto Princesa 5J 227 CEBU Pacific Air 10:20 AM Unknown
319
MNL Manila 5J 564 CEBU Pacific Air 10:20 AM Unknown
319
DVO Davao 5J 595 CEBU Pacific Air 10:50 AM Unknown
319
MNL Manila PR 854 Philippine Airlines 11:15 AM Unknown
330
GES General Santos PR 295 Philippine Airlines 11:40 AM Unknown
DH4
GES General Santos 2P 295^ Air Philippines 11:40 AM Unknown
DH4
MPH Caticlan DG 218 South East Asian Airlines 12:00 PM Unknown
D38
MNL Manila 5J 580 CEBU Pacific Air 12:05 PM Unknown
320
MPH Caticlan DG 218 South East Asian Airlines 12:00 PM Unknown
D38
MNL Manila 5J 580 CEBU Pacific Air 12:05 PM Unknown
320
HKG Hong Kong CX 920 Cathay Pacific Airways 12:30 PM 1:17 PM Landed
64 min 343
MPH Caticlan 6K 994 Asian Spirit 12:40 PM Unknown
DH7
BXU Butuan PR 289 Philippine Airlines 12:50 PM Unknown
DH3
BXU Butuan 2P 289^ Air Philippines 12:50 PM Unknown
DH3
ILO Iloilo 2P 20 Air Philippines 1:10 PM Unknown
737
ILO Iloilo PR 20^ Philippine Airlines 1:10 PM Unknown
737
DVO Davao MI 566 Silkair 1:30 PM Unknown
320
MPH Caticlan DG 831 South East Asian Airlines 1:30 PM Unknown
L4T
CGY Cagayan De Oro 5J 207 CEBU Pacific Air 1:55 PM Unknown
319
MNL Manila PR 858 Philippine Airlines 3:15 PM Unknown
320
PUS Busan 5J 178 CEBU Pacific Air 3:15 PM Unknown
319
ICN Seoul PR 488 Philippine Airlines 3:20 PM Scheduled
320
MPH Caticlan PR 259 Philippine Airlines 3:35 PM Unknown
DH3
MPH Caticlan 2P 259^ Air Philippines 3:35 PM Unknown
DH3
ICN Seoul 5J 128 CEBU Pacific Air 3:45 PM Scheduled
320
MNL Manila 5J 572 CEBU Pacific Air 4:25 PM Unknown
319
MNL Manila PR 850 Philippine Airlines 5:20 PM Unknown
330
MNL Manila 5J 570 CEBU Pacific Air 5:55 PM Unknown
319
DOH Doha QR 657 Qatar Airways 6:20 PM 6:15 PM Landed
On-time 332
DVO Davao 5J 597 CEBU Pacific Air 6:20 PM Unknown
319
MNL Manila 5J 574 CEBU Pacific Air 7:15 PM Scheduled
320
SIN Singapore 5J 547 CEBU Pacific Air 7:55 PM Scheduled
319
MNL Manila PR 864 Philippine Airlines 8:00 PM Scheduled
320
TPE Taipei AE 824 Mandarin Airlines 8:00 PM Scheduled
738
MNL Manila PR 866 Philippine Airlines 9:00 PM Scheduled
320
CRK Luzon Island Q8 7815 Pacific East Asia Cargo 10:30 PM Scheduled
72F

Qatar Airways stands out as the only carrier to provide intercontinental service to/from CEB. Some of the departures shown as PAL are with PAL Express.


And Davao has a brand-new airport terminal that compares well with even the best European regional airports. Currently, it is only served with regional service by Cebu Pacific (HKG and SIN, back of clock) and SilkAir (SIN, daytime).


User currently offlineMHG From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 769 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 21489 times:

Even worse ...

Cebu Pacific has reduced the CEB-HKG non-stops by cancelling the tue/wed rotation ...
(I am one of the unfortunate to be affected  mad  - it´s a nice surprice if your 3-day HKG shoppingtrip get´s cut by 2 days because they operate only every other day - grrrrr)
Well, at least i´m gonna experience NAIA 3 for the first time then since i insisted to be rebooked via MNL the same day ... ! (without having to pay the higher tax, though)

Next to this it seems that Malaysian has downgraded/reduced/ cancelled??? the KUL-BKI-CEB flights.
The KUL-CEB non-stop is already cancelled...
Just tried to find flights in january on that route but "no flights found" is the result !  confused 



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User currently offlineLurveBus From Philippines, joined Mar 2007, 286 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 21464 times:



Quoting MarcoPoloWorld (Reply 3):
MNL is already overserved as far as regional flights go, and all that an increase at CRK accomplishes is to feed exurban third-world primate city sprawl to an area that is at least two hours from Manila (when there is no traffic!) and which has no definable center.

I'm trying my best not to be offended by that statement and think of it as just a bad attempt at wit. Forgive me if I fail.

Quoting MarcoPoloWorld (Reply 3):
none of this is really good news, is it?

The more flights into Manila, the better. What do you want us to do, take PAL all the time? More airlines create more competition, and besides, MNL is grossly underserved regionally, if you ask me. More flights into great hubs like ICN and HKG will help increase the connectivity of the city. PR has waaaay too much influence on who gets to fly here as it is, so I welcome any new airline that manages to weasel in.


User currently offlineTerminalc From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 170 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 21408 times:

Can anyone report when N751PR will be out of the shop & into service? And what about RP-C7475 (formerly N754PR), did its seat refit get completed?

User currently offlineMarcoPoloWorld From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 630 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 21369 times:

Quoting LurveBus (Reply 5):
I'm trying my best not to be offended by that statement and think of it as just a bad attempt at wit. Forgive me if I fail.
Sorry if my post appeared to you as wanting to insult anyone person (or even city, such as Manila) in particular, which was definitely not my intention. Actually, my statement was primarily directed at the focus on Clark - which is not in Manila.

I do welcome more competition on the MNL market - it's just that I wish that RP would also take more opportunity to promote its equally great secondary cities and regions, such as CEB/Visayas, and DVO/Mindanao.

[Edited 2008-08-24 18:52:46]

User currently offline6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3321 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 21337 times:



Quoting CityAirline (Thread starter):
So, to get us started:

1. Hong Kong Express Airways will launch daily B738 flights HKG-MNL-HKG from September 25.
2. Begining next summer, KL will deploy the 77W on ALL flights to MNL, up from the current 3 weekly.
3. Asiana will increase flights on their ICN-CRK-ICN from 10 weekly to double daily A320 from December.

4. SE Air to operate 2 x A320s under the Tiger Airways brand..


User currently offlineBoch From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 71 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 21222 times:

PAL seems to have made some changes to their website. Notably, they moved their booking front end to the home page (ie no more popup to book flights).

It was working fine yesterday, but the site is extremely slow today and the booking portion never loads. Is anyone else experiencing this?



KU, KL, PK, CO, AA, US, UA, WN, AS, FL, BR, MH, KE, OZ, PR, 5J
User currently offlinePRFLYER From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 295 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 21185 times:



Quoting Terminalc (Reply 6):
Can anyone report when N751PR will be out of the shop & into service?

Scheduled for release from Evergreen Aviation on Sept. 10. Hope to try out the new seats on my trip next month. I'll find out where RP-C7475 is right now. It was pulled from the MNL-NRT route and replaced with an A330.


User currently onlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5334 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 21084 times:

Is there any news out there anywhere regarding the FAA's Cat II demotion of PR (which has brought any US expansion plans to a halt)?  crossfingers 

bb


User currently offlineCXA330300 From South Africa, joined May 2004, 1560 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 21047 times:

Does HA still fly into MNL?


The sky is the limit as long as you can stay there
User currently offlineCityAirline From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 685 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 21002 times:



Quoting CXA330300 (Reply 12):
Does HA still fly into MNL?

Yes, four times a week with a 763.



I don't fly to live, I live to fly...
User currently offlineTerminalc From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 170 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 20959 times:



Quoting PRFLYER (Reply 10):

Scheduled for release from Evergreen Aviation on Sept. 10. Hope to try out the new seats on my trip next month.

If you do, please post a trip report & pix!


User currently offlineJetblue32 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 79 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 20939 times:

Can someone with experience traveling through there give me advice? I am looking at flying to MNL on HA in mid-Sept. I just read up, as I have never traveled to that area before, and realized I will be traveling at the height of typhoon season. Is there a high risk of getting stranded/ having my flight cancelled? Since I haven't traveled there before, I don't know how severe it usually is, compared to our hurricane season here in the states, and how the airlines manage it over there.

User currently offlinePRFLYER From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 295 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 20947 times:

Looks like RP-C7475 made a trip MNL-SFO last Monday, August 25. Some pictures were posted of the Y seats with IFE but it doesn't look right. I'll try to confirm if these are the photos of the new seats.





Another new LCC operating Clark-Macau....Spirit of Manila Airlines http://www.spiritofmanilaairlines.com/index.htm#

[Edited 2008-08-27 19:58:52]

User currently offlineLurveBus From Philippines, joined Mar 2007, 286 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 20875 times:



Quoting PRFLYER (Reply 16):
I'll try to confirm if these are the photos of the new seats.

Those aren't the new seats. That 744 was supposed to be for KU and has always had PTVs in Y. The arabic writing is still there Big grin

Quoting Jetblue32 (Reply 15):
Can someone with experience traveling through there give me advice? I am looking at flying to MNL on HA in mid-Sept. I just read up, as I have never traveled to that area before, and realized I will be traveling at the height of typhoon season. Is there a high risk of getting stranded/ having my flight cancelled? Since I haven't traveled there before, I don't know how severe it usually is, compared to our hurricane season here in the states, and how the airlines manage it over there.

If you do get stranded, it's usually only a matter of 24 hours. Typhoons never usually stay still in one place for long. If there's a typhoon on your way here, then you'll probably get diverted to CEB or HKG.

Quoting SANFan (Reply 11):
Is there any news out there anywhere regarding the FAA's Cat II demotion of PR (which has brought any US expansion plans to a halt)?

No news, sadly.

However, there are plans to send the B77Ws to YVR or FRA if Cat II isn't lifted on time.


User currently offlineAirlineAddict From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 419 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 20858 times:
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Quoting LurveBus (Reply 17):

However, there are plans to send the B77Ws to YVR or FRA if Cat II isn't lifted on time.

Would this mean additional frequencies to YVR since the current YVR flights continue on to LAS and would have to be the on the A340-300 until Cat II is lifted?

That's the first I've heard of FRA... I was thinking somewhere in Italy would be the first European city.


User currently onlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5334 posts, RR: 15
Reply 19, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 20820 times:



Quoting LurveBus (Reply 17):
No news, sadly.

Oh well. Thanks for the update. (Not surprising, the way things are going these days...)  Sad

bb


User currently offlineMHG From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 769 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 20817 times:



Quoting LurveBus (Reply 17):
However, there are plans to send the B77Ws to YVR or FRA if Cat II isn't lifted on time.

Are you serious ???

I have almost lost any hope that PR will return to FRA in the foreseeable future.
But since LH has left MNL there´s probably more "room" for PR now ...

I wish it would come true (despite me being not really a fan of the B 777 ... )



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User currently offlineLurveBus From Philippines, joined Mar 2007, 286 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 20730 times:



Quoting AirlineAddict (Reply 18):
Would this mean additional frequencies to YVR since the current YVR flights continue on to LAS and would have to be the on the A340-300 until Cat II is lifted?

If CAT II isn't lifted, then I guess that these would just be terminator flights.

Quoting AirlineAddict (Reply 18):
That's the first I've heard of FRA... I was thinking somewhere in Italy would be the first European city.



Quoting MHG (Reply 20):
I have almost lost any hope that PR will return to FRA in the foreseeable future.

Don't get your hopes up, these are just plans heard through the grapevine just in case CAT II isn't lifted, and YVR is gonna have a higher priority. Besides, the 77Ws aren't going to come all at once.

FCO used to be desirable when LH was still flying here, but now that LH is gone, FRA, with its bevy of connections, may seem a lot more attractive to PR nowadays.


User currently offlinePRFLYER From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 295 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 20602 times:

For those who doubted PRs YVR-LAS flight, here is an article from InBusiness Las Vegas.

http://www.inbusinesslasvegas.com/2008/08/29/tourgame.html

Fair use excerpt:

The one bright spot in the McCarran passenger statistics are the international numbers. Although July was flat from the year-ago figures, the seven-month total for 2008 is 7.4 percent ahead of 2007 to 1.4 million passengers.

Credit Canada's Westjet, Mexico's Aviacsa and Philippine Airlines for double-digit percentage increases in passenger counts. Virgin Atlantic and Britain's bmi are holding their own, but Korean Air passenger counts are off 7.1 percent from last year.


User currently offlineStarAlliance38 From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1445 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 20597 times:



Quoting PRFLYER (Reply 22):
Credit Canada's Westjet, Mexico's Aviacsa and Philippine Airlines for double-digit percentage increases in passenger counts.

Yay for PAL!!! Come to the East Coast  Smile The last time I went back home to the Philippines was in 1998. I want to go back soon and it might be in 2011 for the UST Quinticentennary. Any Thomasians here? My dad is one.

Back on the subject, I want an alternative to NWA. I guess I can use my free ticket to YVR, LAS, LAX, or SAN to hop on PAL. Whatever is cheaper!



Roar, lion, roar
User currently offlineDEVILFISH From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4769 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 20558 times:



Quoting StarAlliance38 (Reply 23):
Any Thomasians here? My dad is one.

Yours truly, too.

BTW, anyone lucky (or daring) enough to get photos or a video of domestic/international operations from Terminal 3?



"Everyone is entitled to my opinion." - Garfield
25 Post contains links and images PRFLYER : Check post #763 of this thread http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=674276&page=39. There are also photos in previous pages of the same thr
26 AirlineAddict : Here's a video from July of someone disembarking on a domestic 5J flight at NAIA Terminal 3. It took him 4 and a half minutes of walking from the air
27 SANFan : I think you mean "SFO", or perhaps you know something the rest of us don't! bb
28 Boch : Why is 5J not using the jetwaysat T3? I know the old Domestic terminal did not have jetways, but 5J does use them at CEB and DVO.
29 PRFLYER : 5J started using the jetways yesterday for their A3xx. The ATRs are still using the remote gates.
30 Post contains links DEVILFISH : Maraming Salamat to you both. Now, I'll just have to wait for a video of PAL Express. A pity the tunnel between T2 and T3 didn't materialize. It woul
31 Boch : The old domestic terminal might be better used as a parking lot.
32 9MMAR : The last news is that there are only 2 weekly service for the KUL-BKI-CEB flights. As far as I am aware, CEB is still within MH's network. Slightly o
33 Leamside : Thanks for starting this new thread CityAirline. Didn't know of it until now. I hear it's N751PR that will get the new seats. N754PR never got them.
34 PRFLYER : RP-C7475 (ex N754PR) will be next to get the new seats. N751PR was scheduled to be released on Sept. 10 from EGAT with the new seats but now push back
35 StarAlliance38 : Oops, my bad, I was thinking of something else at that moment.
36 Terminalc : This ship has completed its D check & only needs the seat replacement, correct? Any idea how long this is anticipated to take?
37 Leamside : Though Asian Spirit has had its three BAE 146 aircraft taken back from lessors due to 'alleged missed payments' the airline is supposedly ready to acq
38 Leamside : There are talks that the PAF aircraft that crashed in Davao was not a C-130 but a L-100 ( which qualifies the subject for this civilian thread). Can a
39 PRFLYER : The A/C is a L-100. It was original purchased by the defunct semi-government owned Philippine Aerospace Development Corp. and ownership was transferre
40 CityAirline : Sure thing. =) Well, from the end of October PAL will increase flights on their MNL-KIX-MNL from the current 5 weekly to daily (mix of A320 and A330)
41 Leamside : Asian Spirit Yao has disputed the alleged BAE 146 "missed payment" rumor reported by the Inquirer a few days ago, In an Inquirer article today, Yao sa
42 Mham001 : Great to see the new terminal up. Anybody notice how the sliding door was 'guard-powered'?
43 KL808 : How did this happen? Did PR get additional Japan entitlements, that was dormant? Where these from 5J? or was there some flight re-arrangements? Any h
44 PRFLYER : Looks like release of N751PR from EGAT on the 18th has been pushed back again.
45 Post contains images DEVILFISH : It may not have a sterling safety record, but they're not that undesirable, considering it would be replacing old aircraft to Caticlan and on seconda
46 LurveBus : 5J and some other cargo airlines are sitting on Japan entitlements. Besides, 2x A320 would only be equivalent to 1 coefficient. That, and didn't PR d
47 Post contains links KL808 : There is a good read regarding KL's route from AMS-MNL on the 77W by HB-IWC: http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/read.main/4139468/
48 Post contains links LurveBus : 5J is gonna start MNL-KIX http://www.gmanews.tv/story/120405/C...o-start-RP-Japan-route-in-November I wonder how 5J is gonna survive given the competi
49 Post contains links CityAirline : Yes that's very interesting actually. And this was right after PAL announced an increase on the MNL-KIX and the launch of a new CEB-KIX service (as I
50 EBGflyer : No specific mention in this thread yet on 5J's international startup from CRK. Here's the press release from Cebu Pacific: Cebu Pacific (CEB), the cou
51 PRFLYER : I was on PR103 (LAX-MNL) last Friday, Sept. 19 and when we were landing at Guam for the Tech Stop, we did two go-arounds due to heavy rain at around 3
52 Post contains links Leamside : Thanks for sharing PRFLYER. Must have been one exciting flight and would have loved to be on that one. Due to a storm a couple or so years back a PAL
53 Leamside : You're right about this. FlightGlobal now reports, ". . .Asian Spirit also told ATI in July that it had ordered five MA60s, all for delivery this yea
54 Post contains links CityAirline : PAL anouncing further expansion in Asia-Pacific. Even though there's no mention of CEB-KIX or MNL-Hangzhou in this release, they do mention the increa
55 Leamside : China Airlines is doing similarly by introducing a new daily service on Oct 1: Kaohsiung, Taiwan - Manila. China Airlines will be using an Embraer E1
56 Viasa : I heard the rumour that Asian Spirit give back it's BAe 146 to the lessor and replace it with the NAMC YS-11. Now I heard that this airline also shut
57 Post contains links PRFLYER : They resumed flying Zamboanga-Sandakan just recently. http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=25818696&postcount=222
58 Post contains links PRFLYER : N751PR update. First pictures of the new seats, http://pinoyexchange.com/forums/showpost.php?p=29683711&postcount=4968
59 Viasa : " target=_blank>http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...t=222 Great! Thank you! Unfortunately it is not bookable on the homepage of Asian Spirit. Are
60 PRFLYER : Baguio should also be a YS-11 route but 6K suspended flying there. But checking their website, they start selling tickets to Baguio starting on Oct.1
61 ERJ : Wow! What an improvement. Thanks for the update! I flew 751 last time LAX-MNL, maybe I'll be lucky enough to get her this time too! Anyone know the e
62 CityAirline : Finally some pictures!! It looks great, totally an improvment! Thanks for sharing. Yes this was a positive change, though not a capacity increase. Th
63 PRFLYER : N751PR will be re-reg RP-C7471. She will be doing some Regional flights prior entering Transpac service. I'm guessing around end of October/early Nov
64 Viasa : Asian Spirit will chang it's very nice name to the not very great name Zest Airways. They will lease two former jetBlue A320. I'm not sure, if the new
65 Terminalc : Any news on N751PR getting out of the shop? PR has some pretty good connections to SE Asia. Maybe they'll start a good marketing campaign once the con
66 Leamside : BusinessWorld Online has just reported the namechange to Zest Airways, Inc. Any idea what the current tail number of the JetBlue planes are and when
67 Post contains images Leamside : JetBlue N581JB, nicknamed "100% Blue", is going to Zest Airways next month after the aircraft gets an A check and engine change in Orlando, Florida. A
68 DEVILFISH : There's a report here yesterday that the contract for the DMIA Terminal 2 has been awarded.....to a company named "Electric... something. I don't hav
69 Post contains links CityAirline : Apparently PAL hopes to get the Cat ll. lifted by July next summer. If they can't get this done, it will be a major obstacle in their expansion plans,
70 KL808 : This is indeed sad news. Lets just keep our fingers crossed and hope that it gets lifted. Drew
71 PRFLYER : Admiral Energy LCC USA, a Chicago-based firm
72 AznMadSci : When does PR expect to receive their 77Ws? Are the affected by the strikes going on at Boeing?
73 Viasa : Must be N548JB (MSN 1868), but I'm not 100% sure about that.
74 Post contains links Leamside : Thanks for the info Viasa. " target=_blank>http://www.spiritofmanilaairlines.co...x.htm Spirit of Manila Airlines' website appears almost fully functi
75 Leamside : Interesting to know through GMAnews that Spirit of Manila already flies from Clark to Macau & Kuwait using temporary permits. Once approved this month
76 Jasp25 : It looks a lot better than Philippine Airlines' website too; puts PAL's website to shame! I hope Spirit of Manila does well, make money, and prosper.
77 SANFan : I am thrilled to see that in the article, JFK and San Diego are the 2 cities actually listed! It's a bit of encouraging news for SAN and very welcome
78 CityAirline : Yes SAN is always mentioned when they're speaking of expansion in the US, and I'm positive that SAN wil be launched way before JFK/EWR. While I have
79 Leamside : Can anyone verify whether two of Zest Airways' Modern Ark 60 (MA60) have been delivered to the Philippines? If so, what airport are they located at? T
80 PRFLYER : RP-C7471 (former N751PR) finally arrived in Manila today with the new seat config. Scheduled for regular flight to HKG this morning.
81 MarcoPoloWorld : SAN isn't going to be sustainable for PAL, how many times that have to be stated? How about NYC has about 10 times the population of San Diego, and i
82 Flanders : Hi all! I am wondering if there is any news about international flights out of Iloilo airport. I realize that wikipedia is not always reliable when it
83 Post contains links and images Viasa : View Large View MediumPhoto © Xu Zheng WOW, they are very fast!!! But I don't like to slogan "Asia's most refreshing airline" because Swissair ha
84 CityAirline : Haha yeah, here we go again about this. I just can't agree with you here. NYC may have a population that is 10 times larger, but the SAN area still h
85 LurveBus : The new owners of Asian Spirit are the same owners of a popular juice brand here called "Zest-O". That brand is very widespread and is easily recogni
86 Post contains links DEVILFISH : They're also probably banking on the popularity of the juice drinks for double airborne commercials - two birds in one shot. http://en.wikipedia.org/
87 SANFan : Got a question for you experts here regarding the application of January of this year by PR to serve SAN. In light of the post by City': Does the whol
88 MarcoPoloWorld : If all the initial post on this site were followed by a comment like that, there would be no need for a discussion and no need for this site. I think
89 Coronado990 : First, we don't like going to LAX just as much as you guys in the bay area hate going to LAX. We are a separate metro area in it's own right and not
90 Post contains links CityAirline : The new seatmap of the refurbished PAL 744 is now available on their website: http://www.philippineairlines.com/Im...400_425seats%20copy_tcm61-6463.pd
91 PRFLYER : My favorite seats 16H and K are now replaced as 15H and K.
92 SANFan : Just for anyone interested; I'm quoting here from correspondence dated 1/16/08, from the SDCRAA to the DOT in support of the application (filed 1/10/0
93 Post contains links and images Leamside : Fyi - Accdg to FlightGlobal today, Zest Airway's took delivery of its first two MA60s two days ago and that the aircraft are currently being ferried v
94 EDICHC : Not myself, but my wife is a UST graduate. Can anyone tell me what is happening at T3 at MNL now? I returned from there last week and for the first t
95 Post contains links PRFLYER : Cebu Pacific is now operating its International and domestic flights from T3. PAL domestic, specifically PALexpress utilizing the Q300s and Q400s, is
96 SANFan : Great news! Thank you for passing that on to us, 'FLYER. I would like to again ask if anyone can answer my earlier question concerning PR's app for S
97 MHG : Is there anyone to know what aircraft is used at Zamboanga at the moment (still RP-C3339 ????) If so - any guess it´sll be still the same in about 3
98 PRFLYER : The YS-11 of Zestair (ex Asian Spirit) are all gone. They are being replaced with the MA60. Their current fleet is composed of 3 Dash 7, 5 MA60 and 2
99 Viasa : Not true!!! The first MA-60 arrived in Clark 11-Oct-2008 while the second MA-60 was scheduled for the 13-Oct-2008. Late Nov-2008 will be the deliver
100 Terminalc : Fleet Search shows N751PR flying SFO/LAX already. Does anyone know which 744 goes in the shop for D check/upgrade next & when? I'm ready to fly PR TP
101 MHG : Well, it seems that my chances to fly the YS-11 just "passed away" ... But antoher question is : On which routes are the MA-60 used currently (their s
102 PRFLYER : RP-C7475 (ex N754PR) will be going next to Evergreen (Taipei) on Tuesday for seat configuration only. The D-Check was already performed several month
103 Viasa : It looks like that - for my too!!! This was our biggest goal on the RTW flight It's very hard, we have planed this trip for a very long time... Now I
104 MHG : I can barely believe that ! PR does not have surplus A320 to transfer to 2P. Next to this i´ve not heard any talks about other aircraft to replace t
105 Post contains links PRFLYER : Unfortunately it's true and confirmed. Here's a discussion about the retrenchment. http://www.pprune.org/south-asia-far...ppines-737-pilot-retrenchme
106 CityAirline : Does any of you guys know the approximate delivery dates of the 77Ws? I just know the first one is due for Q3 next year. How soon after will the other
107 PRFLYER : N751PR has been alternating to/from LAX and SFO for the last two weeks. PAL has deferred further seat reconfiguration till Feb. of next year so as no
108 Leamside : I'd like to coincide my trip and fly aboard this plane. Is there any way (a website perhaps) to find out ahead of time when N751PR will be at either
109 PRFLYER : It is all a crap shoot. But you can take a wild guess when N751PR will be in SFO or LAX base on this pattern. Flight Operations can also substitute an
110 AirlineAddict : Never thought I'd see the day where PR had a spare 744! With the rotation of N751PR, anyone have pics/trip reports on the new Mabuhay class? Thanks
111 Post contains links and images PRFLYER : Trip report here. http://pinoyexchange.com/forums/showpost.php?p=30478461&postcount=622
112 Terminalc : Unfortunately one has to register to read the report.
113 Leamside : Now that PAL First Class is going, or gone, the airline is extending it's reach on the other extreme: PAL EconoLight Class. What a move! Hardly anyone
114 Post contains links CityAirline : As mentioned in another thread, QR will upgrade and increase their operations at MNL. Currently they fly 11 times weekly with the A330. On March 29 ne
115 Terminalc : I just checked this again. Now I can view the last page of the report without registering. The new seats look quite comfortable if rather plain. When
116 Leamside : Hi MHG, hope you had a good trip. Were there any pax service YS-11s left? fyi, Sunstar online reported today that Asian Spirit stopped flying to Bagu
117 Post contains links CityAirline : Dragonair to start HKG-MNL flights. http://www.dragonair.com/da/en_INTL/...0d07a9d110VgnVCM62000007d21c39____ Now there are five carriers operating th
118 MHG : Well, i´m just back home now ... There are no YS-11 active anymore - not even a cargo flyer ! Even my MPH-CEB flight on Asian Spirit/Zest Air was ca
119 PRFLYER : I read in one of the Philippine Aviation Forum that one of the Zestair MA-60 was already flying MNL-MPH, in lieu of the Dash 7. They are reporting tha
120 MarcoPoloWorld : Or does this signal that Dragonair's owner Cathay Pacific plans to shift some of its duty on the route to KA ? If it was around the 10:00 timeframe,
121 CityAirline : No I don't think so. CX operates 5 daily flights to MNL, but two days a week there's an extra sixth flight, but instead of increasing the sixth one t
122 Post contains links Leamside : fyi - LAX spotters, PAL1 with Pres. Macapagal aboard has departed Kansai, Japan & is expected to arrive LAX at 4:09PM today. You just might spot the p
123 Post contains links PRFLYER : ^^^ Did the plane leave with the First Gentleman or was he left behind in Japan. The A343 that they were flying was diverted to Kansai due to the FG n
124 Leamside : Thanks for the info PRFLYER. I was wondering why the stop at Kansai. Perhaps not. Last May 20, Sunstar reported that PAL Express', "Other daily flight
125 MarcoPoloWorld : Sorry, but by mainline, I mean flights operated with jets the size A320/B737 or above.
126 MHG : After inquiring about the MA-60´s i was told the flight´s they perform are "probation" flights only ... No fare paying passengers onboard ... (but
127 MarcoPoloWorld : Well, then isn't that exactly coinciding with my point?
128 CityAirline : Well it depends on what you mean by "shift". I thought you meant shift some of the already existing services to KA, which they're not. Though their g
129 Post contains links Leamside : I guess I didn't really understand your query but thanks for the heads-up and explanation. I had to dig up the definition of 'mainline' and found a g
130 Post contains links CityAirline : Wing glitch forces Northwest jumbo jet to return to Manila http://www.gmanews.tv/story/135580/(...west-jumbo-jet-to-return-to-Manila //Alex
131 Viasa : I was in MNL and MPH 25th and 29th November and I've see two Dash 7 in service (RP-C2895 and RP-C2978).
132 Leamside : The above statement has been confirmed by FCKC in a different thread on this site. He says, "According to Skyliner.de , Zest Aw will receive 1 A320-2
133 Viasa : Both planes were in all white at the moment, I think they will ad the new colors soon to the Dash 7. Had two flights with Zest, one with the Dash 7 a
134 AznMadSci : On the Airline Routes blog, it says on 20Dec CO will be using their 767 (764 in Hawaii configuration) on GUM-MNL-GUM. Not sure if it will show up on a
135 EBGflyer : Just been looking for flights out MNL with both Cebu Pacific (5J) and Philippine Airlines (PR) and don't understand why 5J is charging such high fuel
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