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Is This The Refurbushed KLM MD-11 Interior?  
User currently offlineDeaphen From India, joined Jul 2005, 1426 posts, RR: 1
Posted (6 years 1 month 12 hours ago) and read 35591 times:

Hey guys

I had posted a thread a few weeks ago about the KLM MD-11's and their plans for refurbishment. Well i flew KLM 872 from DEL-AMS a week ago and i must say, the aircraft looks very new and refurbished, but yet it didnt have the new IFE or anything.

I took a few pictures, which i am posting.

Anyways, the backs of economy had the place for the PTV's but there were no ptv's but as i mentioned, the interiors were very clean and nice.

So was this PH-KCB of mine refurbished?

Here are my pics:


http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/rejections/big/20080823_IMG_0127klm.jpg

[Edited 2008-08-24 08:24:41]


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User currently offlineJAL From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 5085 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 12 hours ago) and read 35471 times:

Perhaps the refurbishment is not yet complete on their MD-11's?


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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9823 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 11 hours ago) and read 35442 times:

Fellow member HB-IWC knows everything about this. I don't know much about the KL refurbishments but I was under the impression all their MD11s have been refurbished by now. I remember that part of the refurbishment was painted clouds on the walls in the lavatories to give a better feeling of flight. I don't know what the status of that is but if you have seen that in the lavatories than you probably have been in a refurbished MD11.

Please correct me on this.

A388


User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3916 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 11 hours ago) and read 35354 times:

Well the aircraft has definitely been refurbished as far as new seats and the change to a 3-3-3 layout... whether this is "finished" with regard to PTVs or lack of, I do not know...

User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4697 posts, RR: 50
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 11 hours ago) and read 35345 times:

There are MD-11's with PTV's around, including PH-KCG (flown that one UIO-BON).


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User currently offlineHB-IWC From Indonesia, joined Sep 2000, 4504 posts, RR: 71
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 10 hours ago) and read 35154 times:

PH-KCB in that picture has an intermediate cabin. It has the new layout with a 3-3-3 configuration and just 24 WBC seats, but it does not yet have the complete cabin retrofit, which includes PTVs in all seats.

User currently offlineDeaphen From India, joined Jul 2005, 1426 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 month 7 hours ago) and read 34764 times:

What was the config before the 3-3-3??

Regards
Nitin



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User currently offlineRaggi From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 1001 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 7 hours ago) and read 34754 times:



Quoting Deaphen (Reply 6):
What was the config before the 3-3-3??

2-4-3, or 3-4-2, not sure which, but one of the two!  Smile Try looking for a photo.


raggi



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25356 posts, RR: 22
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 month 7 hours ago) and read 34745 times:



Quoting Deaphen (Reply 6):
What was the config before the 3-3-3??

Photo of the old 2-4-3 layout below.


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User currently offlineKEESJE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 month 7 hours ago) and read 34733 times:



Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 8):
Quoting Deaphen (Reply 6):
What was the config before the 3-3-3??

Photo of the old 2-4-3 layout below.

3-3-3 saves weight. 3 entertainment boxes per row vs 4 boxes in the 2-4-3..


User currently offlineCaribb From Canada, joined Nov 1999, 1637 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 month 5 hours ago) and read 34476 times:

I flew PH-KCI YUL-AMS back in May and it had the same interior

http://www.flickr.com/photos/caribb/535136969/


No PTV's in it then.

[Edited 2008-08-24 14:41:52]

User currently offlinePureKiwi From New Zealand, joined Feb 2006, 183 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 1 month 3 hours ago) and read 33446 times:

This is off topic but does anyone know why the girl in the aisle seat is facing backwards?

User currently offlineGeardown From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 112 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 1 month 2 hours ago) and read 33172 times:



Quoting PureKiwi (Reply 11):
This is off topic but does anyone know why the girl in the aisle seat is facing backwards?


1. Her tray table does not open and she is eating her breakfast/lunch/dinner? (I'm joking of course)
2. She has a baby and is changing diapers?
3. She is kneeling and looking for something in her bag on the seat?
4. The tray table is too small for her laptop so she put it on her seat and is working on her trip report for A.net


User currently offlinePlunaaircanada From Canada, joined Jan 2007, 155 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 1 month 2 hours ago) and read 32905 times:



Quoting Geardown (Reply 12):
4. The tray table is too small for her laptop so she put it on her seat and is working on her trip report for A.net

hahaha  Big grin



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User currently offlineThenoflyzone From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 2494 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 31480 times:



Quoting Geardown (Reply 12):
1. Her tray table does not open and she is eating her breakfast/lunch/dinner? (I'm joking of course)
2. She has a baby and is changing diapers?
3. She is kneeling and looking for something in her bag on the seat?
4. The tray table is too small for her laptop so she put it on her seat and is working on her trip report for A.net

5. She is a Muslim, and thus facing East for prayer.



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User currently offlineAfterburner From Indonesia, joined Jun 2005, 1211 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 30597 times:



Quoting Thenoflyzone (Reply 14):
5. She is a Muslim, and thus facing East for prayer.

While traveling on airplanes, buses, cars, or trains Muslims don't have to face toward Mecca to pray.


User currently offlineHAMAD From United Arab Emirates, joined Apr 2000, 1160 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 30563 times:



Quoting Thenoflyzone (Reply 14):
She is a Muslim, and thus facing East for prayer

should would have covered her hair if she was praying



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User currently offlineJe89_w From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 2361 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 30501 times:
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Quoting Afterburner (Reply 15):
While traveling on airplanes, buses, cars, or trains Muslims don't have to face toward Mecca to pray.

Never knew that. I always thought they did, and here's an example:


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User currently offlineHAMAD From United Arab Emirates, joined Apr 2000, 1160 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 30321 times:



Quoting Je89_w (Reply 17):
Never knew that. I always thought they did, and here's an example:

there are a lot of arguments about this topic, some beleive that they should, some beleive that they don't have to. on recent flights i started seeing those compasses, but in the past when they were not shown, i remember my grandmother flying with us to the UK, she prayed in her seat and didn't face mecca



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User currently offlineGSPSPOT From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3037 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 28318 times:



Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 8):
Photo of the old 2-4-3 layout below.

I sure do hate to see airlines take away seating setups with a "2" side.



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User currently offlineFlying Belgian From Belgium, joined Jun 2001, 2392 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 28302 times:
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Out of curiosity, how were the loads on that flight ?

F.B



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User currently offlineManu From Canada, joined Dec 2004, 406 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 27751 times:



Quoting PureKiwi (Reply 11):
This is off topic but does anyone know why the girl in the aisle seat is facing backwards?

I think this could be the topic of choice for this thread. I was thinking "ah, I wonder if that is more comfortable to do "something". Not sure what the something is though. I'm always looking for new ways to sleep on planes!


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