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Drunk In Charge Of An Exit  
User currently offlineGFFgold From Indonesia, joined Feb 2007, 443 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 4 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3389 times:

Hmm. Interesting point raised by a pax on airlinequality.com

Given that children and the infirm are excluded from window exit seating in case they are unable to assist with deployment of the hatch, should FAs continue to ply exit row pax with drink?

I remember a flight with LH a couple of years ago when a pax by the over-wing exit was so drunk he had problems getting out of his seat to go to the toilet.

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User currently offlinePhaetonFell From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 64 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3392 times:

A good point, although I'd wager that plummeting to the ground from 40,000 feet would sober me up real quick.

User currently offlineOH-LGA From Denmark, joined Oct 1999, 1436 posts, RR: 19
Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3330 times:

I was on the last CPH-GOT flight of the night on SAS a couple years ago... and the two guys in the exit row were obviously plastered... but the flight attendants even continued to give them alcohol throughout the very short flight. It was interesting to watch them exit baggage claim with their carts - one of them hit a garbage can and knocked it over, and kept on going as if nothing had happened while several of us more sober pax went over to pick up the pieces...


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User currently offlineIAirAllie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3265 times:



Quoting GFFgold (Thread starter):
should FAs continue to ply exit row pax with drink?

No. FA's in the US anyways are not legally allowed to serve anyone who is obviously intoxicated regardless of where they sit.


User currently offlineAntonovman From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 725 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3062 times:

You want to see the average Ryanair flight when its full of drunken hooligans.
Trouble is the 18 year old F/A's and the 19 year old Purser are too afraid to refuse them


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31712 posts, RR: 56
Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3052 times:

Out here Domestic Flights are not permitted to serve alcohol.On International flights there is a rationing of Alcohol per Pax.No Alcohol or drunk is permitted to board a flight.

A drunk will not follow instructions well & may be the difference between a safe evacuation & disaster.

regds
MEL



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User currently offlineSmi0006 From Australia, joined Jan 2008, 1557 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2975 times:



Quoting GFFgold (Thread starter):
should FAs continue to ply exit row pax with drink

Like all pax the FA has to do their job in ensuring they don't become drunk, and if they are heading that way ensure they assume responsible service of alcohol.

Quoting Antonovman (Reply 4):
You want to see the average Ryanair flight when its full of drunken hooligans.
Trouble is the 18 year old F/A's and the 19 year old Purser are too afraid to refuse them

Hmm maybe a bit harsh....
But there are other more creative ways of handling things, than simple confrontation....

When I used to fly ( I was 18 at the time and operating on solo dash-8 flights and very new, so I can sympathise withe the Ryan air guys it can be confronting but its your job so you have to suck it up!) I had a pax who started to head towards drunk during the flight. I had served him red wine, 3 glass between Melbourne and Newcastle (shortish flight and I doubt he had eaten), he asked for a fourth and had started to become very rowdy and demanding at this stage deciding it wasn't a good Idea, I returned to the galley and chucked the remaining beer in the bin (2 or 3 cans) and emptied the rest of the white wine in the LDU (liquid disposal unit, fancy name for bucket with a lid lol no drains on our dash-8s lol) under a third of bottle also along with most of the remaining red I returned to his seat and poured about a tablespoon of the last of the red in his glass, when he asked for more I told him we had none. He became irritated accused me of lying and and began to debate it with me. I then pointed out it would have been his last glass anyway as responsible service of alcohol policies prevented me from letting him become intoxicated.
Several other pax asked for more to drink I apologised and told them the bar was empty, they laughed about how small the aircraft was. Later just before top of descent the gentleman went to the bathroom, on his way back to his seat he demanded to see the empty bar so I showed him simple he grumbled his apology and went back to his seat.
Simple way of keeping the peace if I had told him he straight out he couldn't have anymore and then served other pax I would have never herd the end of it! I actually got the idea off one of my family, a CSM for mainline (30 years flying he seems to know what he is doing) who did the same thing with the entire economy class bar after they had a group of footballers heading over to states one time hit the drink a bit hard!
On a side note, was tough to get rid of the beer though! lol


User currently offlineFCAFLYBOY From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2006, 609 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2808 times:



Quoting Antonovman (Reply 4):
Trouble is the 18 year old F/A's and the 19 year old Purser are too afraid to refuse them

And really, you SHOULD be above such comments. One thing I will say about FR cabin crew is that they work their bloody arse's off (no, I don't work for them). I have witnessed on several
FR flights YOUNG crewrefusing alcohol service to pax that are too tipsy, and handled it very diplomatically.

At Zoom, no one sitting in an exit row is allowed to be served alcohol, period. Granted they may well of had a few before boarding, but if they appear pissed they're outta there!


User currently offlineAtlturbine From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 158 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2275 times:

Wow I am really surprised by this. I fly a lot in the US & do not recall ever seeing a drunk in the exit row. I think the US carriers are normally good about "over serving" passengers.


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User currently offlineLufthansa From Christmas Island, joined May 1999, 3224 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (6 years 4 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2218 times:

You lot worry about alcohol on this site far far too much.

I'd be far more worried about people who've been on quick 'weekend' trips to party destinations
coming on board and unable to comprehend what's going on.. being still under the influence of their party drugs.

With the amount of booze loaded in the business class cabins of most 767, a330, 777 and 744 flights there's no doubt that a good chunck of these pax plan on consuming a whole bottle of wine or more to themselves and then going to sleep. Now we all hear of cases of rock stars playing up etc... but the vast majority of ppl just go to sleep, watch a movie and don't cause any harm. You're not allowed to get absolutely blottered during a flight... most airlines will say actually guys, that's about as much as i can give u for the next few hrs... and most pax will accept it. Remember a lot of people, like 20% of fliers, are very nervous and this relaxes them and they go off to sleep. It's about proportions and not overdoing it. The vast majority of ppl can respect this.

There isn't some huge problem going on as some of you would like to make out.


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