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User currently offlineN917ME From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 730 posts, RR: 1
Posted (6 years 4 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 13866 times:

After well over a year of planning, development and testing, we are ready to introduce our new Midwest Class seating option. Passengers can now book Midwest Class for travel on our Boeing 717 aircraft on or after October 21.

Our customers have told us they want a choice of seating and Midwest Class enables us to respond to their needs. As you may remember, Midwest Class features 40 leather Signature seats in a two-by-two configuration with 34-36 inches of legroom, along with 59 newly designed leather Saver seats in a three-by-two configuration with 32 inches of legroom. The new seating design provides the greatest percentage of enhanced-comfort coach seating of any domestic airline. Of course, passengers in both types of seats will receive the same exceptional service for which we are known. We will continue to offer fewer overall seats per plane than comparable aircraft on other airlines, which means more room and comfort for travelers.

We are in the process of modifying our Boeing 717 fleet to the new 99-seat configuration. In addition to the new seating, we are also undertaking other changes, including:

Installing newly designed bulkheads.
Removing underbin cabinets to provide more pitch for first 10 rows.
Repairing galley flooring.
Installing new carpeting.
Thoroughly cleaning the inside and outside of the aircraft.
The first two reconfigured planes are already complete and additional 717s will be completed approximately every three days. The reconfigured planes are returning to service immediately, even though Midwest Class will not be officially launched until October 21.

The other part of the Midwest Class initiative was modifying Sabre to handle our existing and new seating. These requirements have resulted in thousands of hours of programming by Sabre and others, and countless hours of testing by our Midwest team.

After a short soft launch, we will begin promoting Midwest Class to travelers next week. Passengers paying select refundable fares will be assigned a Signature seat, if available. Leisure and sale fares will be assigned a Saver seat, with the option to request Signature seating for a $25-75 fee based on route and availability. Customers can also request Signature seating at the time of check-in, if available. In fact, we've already sold well over 300 Signature seats in the first two days Midwest Class has been offered, even without any promotional efforts.

As part of the introduction of Midwest Class, we have completely relaunched our Web site -- midwestairlines.com. I encourage you to visit the Web site and see how we are presenting Midwest Class to the public. You can also visit midwestairlines.com/choice to learn more and view a seating diagram.

The debut of Midwest Class is a milestone in the product we offer our customers, as well as a significant tool in our efforts to return to profitability. It is the result of hard work by employees throughout the company. Many thanks to everyone who contributed to this important work in any way.

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User currently offlineAA 777 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 808 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 4 days ago) and read 13783 times:
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Wow, didnt realize Midwest was going to a two class config! Looks really nice though, hopefully it will help them get back into the $$.

And now for the question on everyones mind? If your in "Y" do you still get a cookie?!



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User currently offlineN917ME From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 730 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 13666 times:



Quoting AA 777 (Reply 1):
And now for the question on everyones mind? If your in "Y" do you still get a cookie?!

Yes. Cookies for all!

Quoting AA 777 (Reply 1):
Wow, didnt realize Midwest was going to a two class config! Looks really nice though, hopefully it will help them get back into the $$.

Actually, its marketed as one class, with signature seating (2x2 wide seat) available for an upcharge or if a cetain fare is paid, its given at booking.


User currently offlineMaxisno1 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2007, 213 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 13687 times:

EDIT: Poor Midwest is in enough trouble as it is without me taking the piss out of it.  Smile

My thoughts - Color's = Awful & welcome to 1994.
 banghead 

[Edited 2008-08-25 06:22:09]

User currently offlineSxf24 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 1262 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 13651 times:

A great looking cabin, but who made the decision to install a WHITE bulkhead. That will last (or at least look great) all of one flight...

User currently offlineN917ME From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 730 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 13572 times:



Quoting Sxf24 (Reply 4):
A great looking cabin, but who made the decision to install a WHITE bulkhead. That will last (or at least look great) all of one flight...

Actually the bulkhead is designed to be be able to wipe clean very easily. Its not that carpet type crap that some airlines use.


User currently offlineNWADC9 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4898 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 13560 times:

The new saver seats look hideous. Almost like half a signature seat! EWW!

Now I wish I took a picture of the last all-signature cabin I flew in...



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User currently offlineLongHauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 5162 posts, RR: 43
Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 13442 times:



Quoting NWADC9 (Reply 6):
The new saver seats look hideous. Almost like half a signature seat! EWW!

I guess you get what you pay for. The best solution is to actually purchase a fare with a signature seat and never look behind you!  Smile

While Midwest was always a cut above all the rest, I fear they too must accept that when fare is king, they have to offer the best fare they can. Only way to do that, is offer the same seating as the competition.

Ten years ago, Midwest always achieved a higher Y yield than other American carriers, as then, people would actually pay for better service. Not so any more.

I hope this change in focus works for them.



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User currently offlineJjL1011luvr From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 37 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 13426 times:

N917ME Great post ! I was looking forward to some YX news. I think the premium per segment charge for Midwest Class is very reasonable. I do see one Saver seat with alot of legroom. I believe it is '12C'. Best wishes to all at YX.

User currently offlineN917ME From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 730 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 13065 times:



Quoting JjL1011luvr (Reply 8):
I do see one Saver seat with alot of legroom. I believe it is '12C'

Yep..12C is a great seat if you are in the saver seating.

The premium for the signature seat is very reasonable. I think after all the "initial shock" of dual seating wears off, people will be OK with it.

This should generate some much needed extra $$ for YX.


User currently offlineEmSeeEye From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 508 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 12970 times:

What a serious dissapointment! I fly Midwest at least twice a month and I can honestly say I enjoy the full signature service cabin. There is something about a full 2x2 cabin of signature seats. It really sets the "tone" of the flight. Now it will basically be and Airtran flight with leather seats...

In my opinion it "cheapens" the product and the experience but pardon the pun thats what they are aming for.


User currently offlineJjL1011luvr From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 37 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 12893 times:

N917ME - Will YX continue to serve Orlando ? I looked at the schedule and route map. I still can't get an itinerary for MKE-MCO.

User currently offlineMauiman31 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 450 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 12816 times:
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Thanks. Fun to see. Love my YX. Flying them again to LGA in a couple weeks.

Quoting EmSeeEye (Reply 10):
It really sets the "tone" of the flight

Ah me. . . from someone who has flown them for many years. . . I have seen the "tone" change from Champagne, wine service, linen, china -- fabulous food -- all comp. of course - to BOB and a free cookie. So it goes. . .


User currently offlineIsitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 23
Reply 13, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 12805 times:



Quoting EmSeeEye (Reply 10):

While I only fly Midwest a couple of times a year, to MCI, I may add, I agree. This is only a way to enhance revenue. This is not an advantage to the pax. That was taken away when the two and two seating with the little table AND headrest on ALL seats disappeared. Now you pay extra for it. Now Midwest is just another airline........only with cookies.
safe



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User currently offlineMSNtriathlete From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 159 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 12768 times:

I agree with both the positive and negative reactions to the configuration. It seems clear that Midwest had to do this to get their yields up in the current market conditions and in response to demand for low fares, but with a $50 upgrade, nice seats, reasonably-priced premium seats, and cookies, they'll hopefully still be a cut above the rest. Their best attribute is the friendly, fantastic customer service from both ground and flight crews. Hopefully they'll retain that! Hopefully they'll also end up part of SkyMiles, they way they currently are with WorldPerks...anyone have any insight into that?

User currently offlineASFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2005, 1209 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 12642 times:

People love to complain but very few will poney up the extra $$$ for a better experience. People need to get used to paying for what they want. When the fare you pay barely covers fuel, it's not reasonable to expect a variety of other free amenities.

I think the new YX cabin looks great and with 40 Signature seats available on each flight, many folks will likely end up in those seats that didn't actually pay for them.


User currently offlineJjL1011luvr From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 37 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 12566 times:

Does YX have an upgrade policy for it's FFB members ? If not, they should institute one and at least fill the unsold premium seats with their most loyal customers. But only at the last minute to maximize revenue potential.

User currently offlineEmSeeEye From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 508 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 12494 times:



Quoting ASFlyer (Reply 15):
People love to complain but very few will poney up the extra $$$ for a better experience. People need to get used to paying for what they want.

And I do pay for YX. Well.. my company pays for them... but like I said I fly them quite a bit. Its just a dissapointment because I have seen them at thier "prime" as a premier airline now they are pretty much like the others. With leather seats and CC cookies.

Quite often if I have to go to Denver or Sacramento I will take WN or F9 but for the most part YX has been very convienient. There is nothing like being at LAX on a monday morning at 5:30 and seeing the 2 mile long line at the WN counter and then only having to wait at the Midwest counter for 20 minutes or so. You sort of feel exclusive.


User currently offlineN917ME From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 730 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 12423 times:



Quoting ASFlyer (Reply 15):
think the new YX cabin looks great and with 40 Signature seats available on each flight, many folks will likely end up in those seats that didn't actually pay for them.

Actually, there will be a very strict policy regarding "upgrades". We are alot smaller now, so it will ben monitored closely as this is a big change for YX. We need to be able to actually measure the revenue gained from the choice of seating. For $25.00-100.00 the cost to get a signature seat is not too bad.

Quoting EmSeeEye (Reply 10):
Now it will basically be and Airtran flight with leather seats...


Jeez.. after reading some of the YX bashing posts, this should make the FL supporters happy as a pig in Sh..! Actually, we don't charge for pre-reserved seats so we are not AirTran

Quoting JjL1011luvr (Reply 11):
N917ME - Will YX continue to serve Orlando

Yes & no. MCO will become seasonal after 9/7. It will be served year round by our codeshare partner, NW.

Quoting JjL1011luvr (Reply 16):
Does YX have an upgrade policy for it's FFB members ? If not, they should institute one and at least fill the unsold premium seats with their most loyal customers. But only at the last minute to maximize revenue potential

No plans on doing that yet. However, most of our MME passengers purchase fares that qualify for an advance signature seat. The goal is to maximize revenue, so I don't know if /when there will be a "comp" upgrade. I would like to see MME's get upgraded day of departure 1 hr prior to flight departure, but no plans are in the works yet.


User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7565 posts, RR: 8
Reply 19, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 12369 times:

I agree that the colors are awful and really don't have a touch of Midwest Airlines in them. I think a grey or blue seat with either blue or silver accent would have done it justice.


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User currently offlineN917ME From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 730 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 12345 times:



Quoting EmSeeEye (Reply 17):
And I do pay for YX. Well.. my company pays for them... but like I said I fly them quite a bit. Its just a dissapointment because I have seen them at thier "prime" as a premier airline now they are pretty much like the others. With leather seats and CC cookies.

Its dissapointing to for us all, however, in order to stay around we need to adapt and change. Its not " the good ole days" anymore. If we don't change and adapt to todays market, you would be reading about Midwest instead of still flying Midwest.

Some says raise fares to justify costs. It sounds simple, but with the LCC's out there licking their chomps, you need to be competitive. Yeah, some would pay a premium, but in reality not many would, especially in todays environment.


User currently offlineLACA773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 4065 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 12298 times:
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Will there be any changes to the catering aspect?

User currently offlineKnope2001 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3003 posts, RR: 31
Reply 22, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 12189 times:



Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 19):
I agree that the colors are awful and really don't have a touch of Midwest Airlines in them. I think a grey or blue seat with either blue or silver accent would have done it justice.

Actually the brown leather is very much Midwest Airlines. They've purposely stuck with the brown leather since day one in 1984. When the seats were being designed for the arrival of the 717's a few years back they did a great deal of research of surveys on frequent customers to get the reaction of changing to either grey or blue leather. The customer feedback was strong for the brown, and so they stuck with it. The seats on the regional aircraft...BE1, FRJ and now the Skywest CRJ's, have been dictated to be brown leather for this same reason.

I don't disagree that for an airline with blue as the primary color the grey or blue leather seats might have coordinated better. But the strong perception from frequent Midwest customers was that grey or blue leather would have looked synthetic and the brown leather really made it stand out as leather.


User currently offlineATWZW170 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 904 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 12150 times:

Gosh everyone just hates the brown leather seats but that is what color YX has always had. I like the seats....the kind of remind me of DL's new 737 seats. YX has to do something to keep themselves attractive - FL is hitting them hard in MKE, others will probably try to increase in that market as well.

I say good job YX.



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User currently offlineN917ME From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 730 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 11689 times:

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"the new economy class"


25 KingCavalier : I like it and I like that there's no partition or net curtain separating the two "cabins."
26 Fornebu : Air Midwest, I hope that you have many great years ahead, I've heard nothing but good feedback from friends that have used you keep up the great work.
27 EmSeeEye : Trust me I understand. Put a lawnchair on a flying brick and call it Midwest Airlines and I would happily fly with them! Its not the good ol days any
28 GMUAirbusA320 : Hello, is this the 2008? Yeah, this is. Hi, I'm the 1950's and I'm trying to get my interior back. Could you COMAT that to me? Thanks. Wow...what a de
29 TDubJFK : ahhhh... just like Spirit and their "Big Front Seat" or whatever they call it Yet .... That's the worst part -- it looks so ghetto not to have any so
30 N353SK : Wow, those signature seats sure do look like they've aged quite a bit already! I remember flying a nearly new 717 in 2003 and the seats looked gorgeou
31 PiedmontINT : Actually, Air Midwest ceased operations in July..
32 146CREW : AMEN Knope2001! I guess you have to be familiar with the Midwest product and have to have flown them to appreciate the brown.
33 SkyguyB727 : In Worldspan, YX flights are showing availability for C class and Y class with the corresponding discount buckets for Y. C and Y are two distinctly d
34 AASuper80 : I think it looks awful...why those colors? reminds me of WN ew!
35 N917ME : Yes, in all GDS, except SABRE, for bookings with a travel date in mid-late October (I can't remember the exact date) it should only show "Y" class, C
36 Maxisno1 : " target=_blank>http://www.airliners.net/uf/view.fil...a.jpg Oh I love the new cabin!!! What an improvement!!! I love how they have upgraded their ai
37 N917ME : Just got off the newly configured aircraft. The "saver seating" is actually comfortable and has a great pitch. Feels very roomy. The cabin as a whole
38 Knope2001 : Glad to hear that the perceived pitch has indeed improved. If I recall correctly that was one of the benefits with the mixed configuration. The forme
39 FLFlyer : What will happen to YX code share with NW, with NW/DL
40 Post contains links and images KingCavalier : Lots of negative comments about the brown leather, but it is uniquely YX. Do you want the seats to look like every other airline? This is a YX cabin
41 Post contains links and images JBo : I'm thinking these people have never seen an interior photo of a Midwest aircraft until reading this thread ... because the seats have always been br
42 SkyguyB727 : But chocolate brown and dark blue clash. No one wears brown shoes with a navy blue suit, at least no one with any sense of colors and style.
43 SkyguyB727 : It's interesting that YX continues to show "P" class in availability as an economy class booking code. By industry standard, "P" class is defined as
44 413X3 : What is with the obsession with colors and decor on this site? I'll take comfort, customer service, and form over looks any day of the week
45 JjL1011luvr : I was surprised with all of the comments about colors too. I expected more speculation and predictions about the changes. Just off the top of my head.
46 Post contains links Knope2001 : I thought that was kind of funny too. More than just the usual suspects commenting too. But it's a free forum so of course they can contribute. Becau
47 JjL1011luvr : Knope2001 Thank you for the well thought out answers. I will read your post more than once until all of that info sinks in. I had totally forgotten ab
48 JjL1011luvr : Does anyone have any additional news about YX since the last postings ?
49 GMUAirbusA320 : I guess - from a marketing standpoint - it probably fits their clientele? It seems very traditional. To answer your comment, I like B6's cabin and VX
50 JBo : What kind of news?
51 JjL1011luvr : New is news. Anything.
52 JBo : Probably won't hear anything for awhile. The restructuring process continues along ... negotiations continue ... all that good stuff. The big schedule
53 UltimateDelta : Well, I'm going to miss the double-wide signature seats because I'll probably be in the back from now on, but it still looks good and I do recognize t
54 TVNWZ : Obviously, you have not been on the planes. They look very fashionable and upscale. The brown does not clash and is very rich looking. Sort of a Coac
55 Type-Rated : I actually like the colors, but I also think that the lack of a divider of some kind makes it kind of strange looking.
56 JjL1011luvr : The seat color is 'growing' on me. It reminds me of leather that you would find in a Jaguar. I am uncertain about the divider issue. With 40 seats up
57 TVNWZ : Get the latest Automobile magazine and look at the seats in the new Masserati Quatroporte. same color of leather. Nobody has ever accused Masserati o
58 HowSwedeitis : While the seats looks comfy, the style looks 70's... Pretend that the bumbling stuttering president is Ford, not Bush... -HSII
59 Mke717spotter : I'm having some trouble figuring out how adding more seats is going to help. Their load factor has been declining, so if they can't manage to fill pla
60 MKENut : MKE - MCO via a connection to MEM, MSP or DTW.
61 TVNWZ : Travel is dynamic. Travel is down, but the assumption is it will go back up as the economy improves. The new seats are for that assumption on routes
62 Knope2001 : There are several ways in which increasing the 717 seating from 88 to 99 seats will help: 1. Nearly all mainline destinations are seeing *fewer* seat
63 Knope2001 : UGH I hit the post button instead of the preview button by accident, and it won't let me back in to edit. Here's how that second table is supposed to
64 Zrs70 : I have to say that I miss the original YX concept. When they first started, they were famous for exception meals and 2x2 seating. You didn't have to p
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