"Mr Mallya said that Kingfisher is establishing the base for its widebody long-haul operations at the recently opened Bangalore International airport, which with Hyderabad is leading the drive to modernise Indian airport infrastructure in an effort to catch up with the very fast growth of the Indian aviation market.
The group already has orders placed for five Airbus A380 superjumbos, with deliveries due to start in 2012, and for 20 long-range A350s for delivery from 2013.
It also has a further 20 A330-200s on order from late 2010 in addition to five that have already been delivered.
Mr Mallya said the group had reduced the scale of its initial ambitions with the ultra long-range A340-500s.
Five of 10 aircraft originally ordered had been converted into orders for the smaller A330-200 and it was negotiating to sell two of the remaining five, leaving three to operate the non-stop Bangalore services to the east and west coasts of the US."
BrightCedars From Belgium, joined Nov 2004, 1286 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 11343 times:
Quoting JerseyFlyer (Thread starter): Five of 10 aircraft originally ordered had been converted into orders for the smaller A330-200 and it was negotiating to sell two of the remaining five, leaving three to operate the non-stop Bangalore services to the east and west coasts of the US."
How do they intend on operating daily to both east and west coasts with only 3 planes?
And if not daily, how do they intend to turn a profit? Or could A350s take-over the A340s on these missions as soon as they are available?
Behramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4716 posts, RR: 44
Reply 10, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 10649 times:
Quoting Thorben (Reply 6): Interesting to see that they are also pushing back the delivery of 32 A32X planes.
Yes...cost savings move as they have enough capacity with the purchase of Air Deccan which brought along with few dozen A 320s as well lol. I feel that they will cut down domestic flights and re-direct many A 320s for high density India-Middle East and India-Far East Asia services where the yield is far higher than what is obtained from domestic pax.
Main target market for BLR-JFK will be O&D and transit traffic to HYD, MAA, COK, TRV and CMB. Hopefully KF will make BLR-SIN too connect with BLR-JFK as they can get a few pax in J and Y classes to use them if the connection times at BLR are under 4 hours in each direction.
Thanks for the monumental revelation , but how does it address the quesion I asked i.e. - how do you operate both BLR-SFO and BLR-JFK 5x weekly with only 3 aircraft?! I'm not necesarily suggesting that it is impossible, but I'd like to see something along the lines of a Gantt chart.
Lightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12414 posts, RR: 100
Reply 15, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 9920 times:
Quoting Burkhard (Reply 1): Reality arrives. The A345 is an absolute beauty, well proportioned, but if the purpose is to make money, the A332 does better.
Very few runs would justify the A345 for IT. It would be better for them to form a scissor hub somewhere in Asia. PEK? (IIRC there are 14 5th freedom rights to use from China) ICN? (Not yet negotiated), or ??? The A332 is a perfectly fine airframe for that role.
Legoguy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 3311 posts, RR: 40
Reply 19, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 7909 times:
Sad news about the A345's however good news for the A330 numbers. They must be close or past a 1000 airframes now if these are firm. Decrease in A340 orders, increase in A330 orders? Where's WINGS when you need him.
Can you say 'Beer Can' without sounding like a Jamaican saying 'Bacon'?
Frigatebird From Netherlands, joined Jun 2008, 1462 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5397 times:
Quoting Scouseflyer (Reply 23): Hopefully this means that the other 15 A350s have been firmed (maybe as part of the contract to swap A345s for A332s - we'll let you swap if you finally firm those orders from ages and ages ago?)
How about the other way around: VM: "We'll firm up those A350's if you'll let us swap the A345 for A332's!"
But I actually wonder why they swapped them for A330's, instead of A350's. They already have 15 A330's on order, so I don't think it is because of availability..