Delivery of the second Emirates Airbus A380 has been delayed at least several weeks due to supplier issues with interior outfitting, delaying introduction of the first daily A380 service to New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport.
According to sources in both Dubai and Hamburg, delivery has been delayed until October 20 "at the earliest."
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No word yet on how they'll make up for the roughly 135 seat gap in capacity between the 777-300ER and the A380.
Onward,
IAD787
[Edited 2008-08-27 15:20:48]
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WingedMigrator From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 2024 posts, RR: 57 Reply 1, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 8922 times:
Quoting IAD787 (Thread starter): No word yet on how they'll make up for the roughly 135 seat gap in capacity between the 777-300ER and the A380.
Looks like they will have to secure massive interim lift capacity for those three weeks!
Seriously, after getting stiffed for two years, what's another few weeks...
Singapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13711 posts, RR: 21 Reply 2, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 8870 times:
Wasn't the source actually Haan on Airliners.net ?
FlyEmirates From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 8606 times:
It would appear that daily ops do start on 26th oct
until then a mixture of 77W/77L operate
on 25th EK201 is indeed scheduled as a 77L
EK201 on 23rd is a 77W with the suites
EK203 on 21st has changed to 77L
EK201 on 18th and EK203 on 19th are both 77L, so thats 2 aircraft - looks like 77L have both been pulled off PEK and JNB. JNB gets 77W with suites, while PEK gets downgrade with a non suite 77W
All aircraft to JFK remain with suites and lie flat J
looking through the month i cant see one flight or cabin that has been oversold even AFTER the swap. Flights are not very busy, when it comes to swapping aircraft and flight around EK seem to do a good job
It would appear that a delay is expected on LHR EK001 untill 15th december as the aircraft are only being sold as 12/42/304 (77W)
Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21025 posts, RR: 60 Reply 6, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 8100 times:
Quoting Scbriml (Reply 3): This is the same issue that's been affecting Boeing recently - supplies of galleys and toilets.
From what I understand, it's not an issue that's affecting "Airbus" or "Boeing" but the airlines who contracted with the interior suppliers to outfit the aircraft. This is why only certain deliveries are delayed, to only certain customers. I could be mistaken though.
Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
Scouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3254 posts, RR: 10 Reply 7, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 7885 times:
Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 6): From what I understand, it's not an issue that's affecting "Airbus" or "Boeing" but the airlines who contracted with the interior suppliers to outfit the aircraft. This is why only certain deliveries are delayed, to only certain customers. I could be mistaken though.
That's what I remember reading too one of the interior contractors has failed to ramp up their business as quick as A and B.
It doesn't look like QF has been affected by the problem as we've all seen those piccys of QFs "interesting" interior for thier A380
NZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 5672 posts, RR: 40 Reply 10, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 7118 times:
Are there any more delays likely in EK's A380? Any that may delay the start of the DXB-SYD-AKL route? Or is this just a one-off problem with one of the A380s?
Norcal773 From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 1277 posts, RR: 13 Reply 11, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 5442 times:
Quoting Babybus (Reply 8): Can you imagine how sick to the stomach you would be if you turned up for an A380 flight and found a 777 sitting there?
It could be worse...you could find an A345 sitting on the tarmac instead.
SunriseValley From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 3946 posts, RR: 4 Reply 12, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4785 times:
Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 6): From what I understand, it's not an issue that's affecting "Airbus" or "Boeing" but the airlines who contracted with the interior suppliers to outfit the aircraft. This is why only certain deliveries are delayed, to only certain customers. I could be mistaken though.
So the problem is confined to certain seat and galley suppliers, but not too all.
Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21025 posts, RR: 60 Reply 13, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3203 times:
Quoting SunriseValley (Reply 12): So the problem is confined to certain seat and galley suppliers, but not too all.
From how I read it, yes. And that's hardly A and B's problem, as most airlines contract directly with those outfitters.
Quoting Babybus (Reply 8): Can you imagine how sick to the stomach you would be if you turned up for an A380 flight and found a 777 sitting there?
I thought the majority of customers don't know the difference?
Seriously though, if I was in Y on EK and saw the 777, I'd be unhappy. Squeeze city. But if I were in J or F (assuming it was a 777 with the new F suite), I probably wouldn't get that upset.
Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
N14AZ From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2313 posts, RR: 25 Reply 14, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2213 times:
I don't know if someone noticed, but on Flightblogger a small but interesting information has been added - see "Twitter dispatches":
Quote: XFW source: MSN013 delay centers on "showers & delivery of other parts." Watch out for a potential EK surprise MSN007 delivery from TLS. about 8 hours ago.
I checked the TLS spotter homepages but MSN 007 hasn't been seen for a while. Will be interesting to see if this turns out to be true.
P.S.: MSN 007 was the A380 that made the America-tour end of 2007
FlyEmirates From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2029 times:
Up to 29th Nov the alternating days EK201 are now being sold as a 77L 8/42/216 (although A380 still showing as operating), therefore this is quite a delay expected on the second aircraft
Lightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 10649 posts, RR: 100 Reply 16, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1826 times:
Quoting IAD787 (Thread starter):
No word yet on how they'll make up for the roughly 135 seat gap in capacity between the 777-300ER and the A380.
Can we say yield management.
Quoting SunriseValley (Reply 12): So the problem is confined to certain seat and galley suppliers, but not too all.
For the Galley suppliers, the 'problem' is confined to the ones with the better products! I'm still amazed how Galley production is holding back widebody deliveries. Oh... I understand the issue. But usually the problem is with longer lead components.