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2d EK A380 Delayed, Daily JFK Service Impacted  
User currently offlineIAD787 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 502 posts, RR: 44
Posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 9894 times:

Hey All,

I'm in the process of putting out a comprehensive update on the remaining 2008 A380s and I just published this story:

http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/fl...upplier-woes-delay-second-emi.html

Delivery of the second Emirates Airbus A380 has been delayed at least several weeks due to supplier issues with interior outfitting, delaying introduction of the first daily A380 service to New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport.

According to sources in both Dubai and Hamburg, delivery has been delayed until October 20 "at the earliest."
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No word yet on how they'll make up for the roughly 135 seat gap in capacity between the 777-300ER and the A380.

Onward,

IAD787

[Edited 2008-08-27 15:20:48]


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User currently offlineWingedMigrator From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 2215 posts, RR: 56
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 9846 times:



Quoting IAD787 (Thread starter):
No word yet on how they'll make up for the roughly 135 seat gap in capacity between the 777-300ER and the A380.

Looks like they will have to secure massive interim lift capacity for those three weeks!  duck 

Seriously, after getting stiffed for two years, what's another few weeks...  Smile


User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13744 posts, RR: 19
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 9794 times:

Wasn't the source actually Haan on Airliners.net ?  Wink


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User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12630 posts, RR: 46
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 9689 times:
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This is the same issue that's been affecting Boeing recently - supplies of galleys and toilets. banghead 


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User currently offlineWunalaYann From Australia, joined Mar 2005, 2839 posts, RR: 25
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 9626 times:



Quoting Scbriml (Reply 3):
This is the same issue that's been affecting Boeing recently - supplies of galleys and toilets.

Toilets are a problem. Don't worry about the galleys - just use the free space to put flat-bed seats instead, and give them to me.  Smile


User currently offlineFlyEmirates From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 9530 times:

It would appear that daily ops do start on 26th oct

until then a mixture of 77W/77L operate

on 25th EK201 is indeed scheduled as a 77L

EK201 on 23rd is a 77W with the suites

EK203 on 21st has changed to 77L

EK201 on 18th and EK203 on 19th are both 77L, so thats 2 aircraft - looks like 77L have both been pulled off PEK and JNB. JNB gets 77W with suites, while PEK gets downgrade with a non suite 77W

All aircraft to JFK remain with suites and lie flat J

looking through the month i cant see one flight or cabin that has been oversold even AFTER the swap. Flights are not very busy, when it comes to swapping aircraft and flight around EK seem to do a good job

It would appear that a delay is expected on LHR EK001 untill 15th december as the aircraft are only being sold as 12/42/304 (77W)

[Edited 2008-08-27 16:39:51]

User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21544 posts, RR: 59
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 9024 times:



Quoting Scbriml (Reply 3):
This is the same issue that's been affecting Boeing recently - supplies of galleys and toilets. 

From what I understand, it's not an issue that's affecting "Airbus" or "Boeing" but the airlines who contracted with the interior suppliers to outfit the aircraft. This is why only certain deliveries are delayed, to only certain customers. I could be mistaken though.



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User currently offlineScouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3397 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 8809 times:



Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 6):
From what I understand, it's not an issue that's affecting "Airbus" or "Boeing" but the airlines who contracted with the interior suppliers to outfit the aircraft. This is why only certain deliveries are delayed, to only certain customers. I could be mistaken though.

That's what I remember reading too one of the interior contractors has failed to ramp up their business as quick as A and B.

It doesn't look like QF has been affected by the problem as we've all seen those piccys of QFs "interesting" interior for thier A380 Big grin


User currently offlineBabybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 8509 times:

Can you imagine how sick to the stomach you would be if you turned up for an A380 flight and found a 777 sitting there?  Angry

User currently offlineDanny From Poland, joined Apr 2002, 3514 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 8509 times:



Quoting Singapore_Air (Reply 2):
Wasn't the source actually Haan on Airliners.net ?

Yes this has been discussed before.


User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6436 posts, RR: 38
Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 8042 times:

Are there any more delays likely in EK's A380? Any that may delay the start of the DXB-SYD-AKL route? Or is this just a one-off problem with one of the A380s?


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User currently offlineNorcal773 From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 1448 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 6366 times:



Quoting Babybus (Reply 8):
Can you imagine how sick to the stomach you would be if you turned up for an A380 flight and found a 777 sitting there?

It could be worse...you could find an A345 sitting on the tarmac instead.  duck   biggrin 



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User currently offlineSunriseValley From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 5053 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 5709 times:



Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 6):
From what I understand, it's not an issue that's affecting "Airbus" or "Boeing" but the airlines who contracted with the interior suppliers to outfit the aircraft. This is why only certain deliveries are delayed, to only certain customers. I could be mistaken though.

So the problem is confined to certain seat and galley suppliers, but not too all.


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21544 posts, RR: 59
Reply 13, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4127 times:



Quoting SunriseValley (Reply 12):
So the problem is confined to certain seat and galley suppliers, but not too all.

From how I read it, yes. And that's hardly A and B's problem, as most airlines contract directly with those outfitters.

Quoting Babybus (Reply 8):
Can you imagine how sick to the stomach you would be if you turned up for an A380 flight and found a 777 sitting there?  

I thought the majority of customers don't know the difference?  Wink

Seriously though, if I was in Y on EK and saw the 777, I'd be unhappy. Squeeze city. But if I were in J or F (assuming it was a 777 with the new F suite), I probably wouldn't get that upset.  Smile



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User currently offlineN14AZ From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2758 posts, RR: 25
Reply 14, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3137 times:

I don't know if someone noticed, but on Flightblogger a small but interesting information has been added - see "Twitter dispatches":

Quote:
XFW source: MSN013 delay centers on "showers & delivery of other parts." Watch out for a potential EK surprise MSN007 delivery from TLS. about 8 hours ago.


I checked the TLS spotter homepages but MSN 007 hasn't been seen for a while. Will be interesting to see if this turns out to be true.

P.S.: MSN 007 was the A380 that made the America-tour end of 2007

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User currently offlineFlyEmirates From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2953 times:

Up to 29th Nov the alternating days EK201 are now being sold as a 77L 8/42/216 (although A380 still showing as operating), therefore this is quite a delay expected on the second aircraft

User currently offlineLightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13253 posts, RR: 100
Reply 16, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2750 times:
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Quoting IAD787 (Thread starter):

No word yet on how they'll make up for the roughly 135 seat gap in capacity between the 777-300ER and the A380.

Can we say yield management.  Wink

Quoting SunriseValley (Reply 12):
So the problem is confined to certain seat and galley suppliers, but not too all.

 checkmark  For the Galley suppliers, the 'problem' is confined to the ones with the better products!  duck   Wink I'm still amazed how Galley production is holding back widebody deliveries. Oh... I understand the issue. But usually the problem is with longer lead components.

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