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Hawaiian To Utilize Old Aloha Gates At HNL  
User currently offlineHALFA From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1354 posts, RR: 15
Posted (6 years 1 month 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5816 times:

Just got word today that HA will start utilizing AQ's old gates at HNL starting as early as Wednesday, September 3rd. The current plan is for HA's inter-island flights to depart out of gates 52-57. In addition, HA will utilize gates 58-61 for Trans Pacific and West Coast flights. These gates are currently used by HA for inter-island flights only.
This will be a huge improvement for our operations at HNL. There will still not be enough gates at the inter-island terminal to handle all of our early afternoon departures to the West Coast, but it will certainly make things easier for passengers on the flights operating out of that terminal.
No word yet as to which 767 flights will be leaving from the inter-island terminal, but I am hoping that this will bring an end to our 767 flights departing and arriving at the center concourse of the main terminal. (Gates 14-23)
If I get word of a more detailed plan, I will pass it along, but this is very good news for HA!

Aloha,
HALFA


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User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5440 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 5772 times:

Wonderful! I wonder if the name of the terminal will change (unofficially anyway) to "Hawaiian Air Terminal" rather than "Inter-Island T"?

Not all the gates will be used by HA then, right? If I remember correctly, including the Makai Concourse, are there not still gates 49 thru 66, meaning 49 to 51 and 62-66 will be used by... whom? Island and go! are still at gates 71 and up are they not?)

I look forward to future updates on this great news.

Mahalo,

bb


User currently offlineHa763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3661 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 5761 times:
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I've already seen 717s parked at gates 52 and 53 for some of the first flights out for the day. Now the thing is to get go! out of there so that the 767s can power out from the interisland ramp instead of having to tow to the taxiway before starting the engines.

User currently offlineHa763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3661 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 5737 times:
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Quoting SANFan (Reply 1):
meaning 49 to 51 and 62-66 will be used by... whom?

For 49-51, right now no one since there is still an AQ 732 parked right in the middle of that area. Once that aircraft is gone, HA can move some flights into those gates.

For 62-66, no one can use them since go! is blocking the ramp area in front of those gates. Those "gates" are physically attached to the Commuter Terminal, but only accessable from the Interisland Terminal.


User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5440 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 5733 times:



Quoting Ha763 (Reply 3):
For 49-51, right now no one since there is still an AQ 732 parked right in the middle of that area. Once that aircraft is gone, HA can move some flights into those gates.

For 62-66, no one can use them since go! is blocking the ramp area in front of those gates. Those "gates" are physically attached to the Commuter Terminal, but only accessable from the Interisland Terminal.

Ahhh, thank you for the clarification; and thanks to both of you for keeping all of us up to date on what's happening on the Islands.

bb


User currently offlineHawaiian717 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3195 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5517 times:

Any word on whether the Aloha artwork will be left up in the pier? Would be a nice tribute to the airline.

User currently offlineAllegiantAir From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 1733 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 month 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5488 times:



Quoting Hawaiian717 (Reply 5):

Ya I saw that two weeks ago when I was at HNL. It gave me a huge smile! IIRC, that's the only thing that still has "Aloha Airlines" in the whole terminal now. All the signs hanging from the ceiling already have no trace of AQ on there. It was pretty sad...  Sad

JMO here, but hearing that go! isn't making much of profit over there, hopefully they'll pull out and it will be back to normal having the traditional Hawaiian carriers (HA and WP) to secure things with LW and MW serving the smaller airports.

What about interisland cargo operations? While I was there I saw Transair, Aloha Air Cargo, Corporate Air, Ameriflight (I think), and FedEx Feeder. Does anyone know who is and isn't making a profit there?

Thanks



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User currently offlineCrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1920 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4575 times:

For those that have never seen that AQ artwork, it is absolutely fantastic and I pray some contractor does not come in during the middle of the night and trash everything. It consists of their original route map of Hawaii w/ an F-27 flying, a beautiful photo of 2 Viscounts in their final flower livery on the ramp, and an inflight photo of the 737-700 over Waikiki. I know there is more, but I just forgot...

User currently offlineAloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4505 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 month 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4493 times:



Quoting Crownvic (Reply 7):
For those that have never seen that AQ artwork, it is absolutely fantastic and I pray some contractor does not come in during the middle of the night and trash everything. It consists of their original route map of Hawaii w/ an F-27 flying, a beautiful photo of 2 Viscounts in their final flower livery on the ramp, and an inflight photo of the 737-700 over Waikiki. I know there is more, but I just forgot...

Ive seen that art in Youtube videos and photographs from the terminal....to me, it made AQ's demise that much more heartbreaking. I hope it remains. And if it doesn't, then it belongs in a museum.


User currently offlinePohakuloa From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 419 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 month 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4467 times:

Hey HALFA & Ha763, that AQ 732 has been there for a long while now. Do you or anyone else know what is to become of her and/or when something will come of her? I have one idea of what I'd like to see, but I am also thinking that it is an unlikely scenario.

~Pohakuloa



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User currently offlineHa763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3661 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 month 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4323 times:
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Quoting Pohakuloa (Reply 9):

It will eventually leave for some boneyard. That time may actually be coming up soon. A couple of days ago, the aircraft was moved to maintenance for most of the day before being moved back.


User currently offlineAq737 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 612 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 1 month 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4121 times:

Will the gates be redone to accomodate the wider 767 wingspan, because aren't those gates for narrowbodies? I remember that the redeye 767 to LAX occasionally used the interisland terminal. Perhaps HA can use its computer system to determine the mainland flight with the largest number of connecting pax and place that departure at the interisland terminal to maximize the usefulness of using the interisland gates for transpac flights?

Aq737


User currently offlinePohakuloa From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 419 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 1 month 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3992 times:

Thanks Ha763! Greatly appreciated. Not my fantasy thought for it, but good to know her future none the less.

I'd like to see the red eye flights to Vegas and LAX as well as the early morning arrivals from the mainland go into and out of the inter-island terminal. Wishful thinking!!!



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User currently offlineBok269 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 2104 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 1 month 23 hours ago) and read 3944 times:



Quoting Ha763 (Reply 10):
It will eventually leave for some boneyard. That time may actually be coming up soon. A couple of days ago, the aircraft was moved to maintenance for most of the day before being moved back.

Is that the final non-cargo AQ aircraft left in HNL?



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User currently offlineHawaiian717 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3195 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (6 years 1 month 22 hours ago) and read 3878 times:



Quoting Aq737 (Reply 11):
Will the gates be redone to accomodate the wider 767 wingspan, because aren't those gates for narrowbodies? I remember that the redeye 767 to LAX occasionally used the interisland terminal.

I don't know about 59, but back in the DC-10 days, they used to run both the scheduled LAX and Vacations Hawaii LAS charter redeye flights out of 60 and 61, with DC-10s parked at both gates simultaneously. So those two gates, at least, should have no problem with the 767.


User currently offlineHALFA From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1354 posts, RR: 15
Reply 15, posted (6 years 1 month 12 hours ago) and read 3669 times:



Quoting Aq737 (Reply 11):
Will the gates be redone to accomodate the wider 767 wingspan, because aren't those gates for narrowbodies?

According to the memo I received from my supervisor, the state is painting new lead-in lines, recalibrating the jetways, and repainting jetway lines to accommodate our fleet.

Quoting Pohakuloa (Reply 12):
I'd like to see the red eye flights to Vegas and LAX as well as the early morning arrivals from the mainland go into and out of the inter-island terminal. Wishful thinking!!!

I think it is almost certain that our red eye flight to LAS will use the inter-island gates as well as the red eye to LAX when it returns to our schedule. I am also fairly certain that our daily flight 10 to LAX (departing HNL at 0810) as well as late afternoon flights to PPG, PPT, PHX, and LAS will use the inter-island gates too. I'll have a better idea of which flights will use these gates later this week.

Quoting Hawaiian717 (Reply 14):
I don't know about 59, but back in the DC-10 days, they used to run both the scheduled LAX and Vacations Hawaii LAS charter redeye flights out of 60 and 61, with DC-10s parked at both gates simultaneously. So those two gates, at least, should have no problem with the 767.

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HALFA



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User currently offlineHA_DC9 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 653 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (6 years 1 month 11 hours ago) and read 3617 times:



Quoting SANFan (Reply 1):
Wonderful! I wonder if the name of the terminal will change (unofficially anyway) to "Hawaiian Air Terminal" rather than "Inter-Island T"?

I like the sound of that. IMHO it is the nicest terminal at HNL and fitting for the hometown and largest carrier at HNL. The state should also remodel the old AQ Alii Club into more airport concessions or ask HA to move the Premier Club Lounge there. Now if only HA would put in a big model of the upcoming A332 in the terminal...

Quoting Hawaiian717 (Reply 5):
Any word on whether the Aloha artwork will be left up in the pier? Would be a nice tribute to the airline.

I'm probably going to get flamed for this...but I think the state should take them down. I mean I am sad that AQ is gone but it is time to move on. Perhaps the state can move the artwork to Bishop Museum or someplace else.


User currently offlineAloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4505 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (6 years 1 month 11 hours ago) and read 3589 times:



Quoting HA_DC9 (Reply 16):
Perhaps the state can move the artwork to Bishop Museum or someplace else.

I support leaving it in the terminal, but barring that, Bishop would be a perfect home for them.


User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 18, posted (6 years 1 month 11 hours ago) and read 3558 times:

GOOD! Don't let Mesa get those gates! I miss the AQ livery flying around and I am still disappointed that I never got to fly AQ. Maybe HA should do a nice livery in honor of AQ on one of their 712's. That would be neat to see!


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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16877 posts, RR: 51
Reply 19, posted (6 years 1 month 10 hours ago) and read 3547 times:

I didn't want to start another thread so I will ask here, will HA launch OGG-LIH?.. I talked to someone recently while on Maui who stated they had to change their plans because Aloha whom they were scheduled to fly Maui-Kaui went out of business.


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User currently offlineHALFA From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1354 posts, RR: 15
Reply 20, posted (6 years 1 month 10 hours ago) and read 3534 times:



Quoting STT757 (Reply 19):
I didn't want to start another thread so I will ask here, will HA launch OGG-LIH?..

I'm not sure what happened to our OGG-LIH daily flight but you are correct, it doesn't exist anymore, we had that flight for many years but I just checked our schedule and I can't find it. . We do have a daily LIH-OGG flight though. It's #508 departing LIH @0925 and arriving OGG @1005.
I haven't heard of any plans to reinstate the OGG-LIH flight, but perhaps when we take delivery of our new 717's this fall, they will reinstate it. I'm just speculating.

HALFA



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User currently offlineHa763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3661 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (6 years 1 month 9 hours ago) and read 3489 times:
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Quoting Bok269 (Reply 13):
Is that the final non-cargo AQ aircraft left in HNL?

I believe it is.

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 18):
GOOD! Don't let Mesa get those gates!

They shouldn't even think about it since they never wanted to be in the Interisland Terminal in the first place. The State wanted go! in the Interisland Terminal, but they fought against it, as did AQ and HA. Mesa wanted to be in the Commuter Terminal since it is "easier" to get through. Plus, the jetways cannot go low enough for the CRJ, so it would mean having to walk up and down the jetway stairs. I wouldn't want pax walking up and down those stairs on a regular basis. I've slipped on them more than once. Or else they would have to go through the gate in the garden area. If you look under gate 49 in the garden area of the Interisland Terminal, you will a chain link gate marked, IIRC, 49A.


User currently offlinePohakuloa From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 419 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (6 years 1 month 7 hours ago) and read 3404 times:



Quoting HALFA (Reply 15):
I think it is almost certain that our red eye flight to LAS will use the inter-island gates as well as the red eye to LAX when it returns to our schedule. I am also fairly certain that our daily flight 10 to LAX (departing HNL at 0810) as well as late afternoon flights to PPG, PPT, PHX, and LAS will use the inter-island gates too. I'll have a better idea of which flights will use these gates later this week.

Mahalo for the info HALFA! How about the arriving redeye from LAS? I know lots to ask, but hey i figure you are better to ask than customer service on the phone!! Im looking to travel to LAS and with my physical disabilities, that trek to the overseas terminal is really a wearing task for me. if i both departed and returned at the "Hawaiian Airlines Terminal" (thats kind of catchy)  Smile id be more proned to push my travel agent to push harder. darn "chinese bears" and their travel agents!!!! grrr!!!!

side idea (own personal plug) HA looking to perhaps get some of those 6 seater golf carts to transport its elderly and disabled passengers over to the ewa and central concourses. im always looking for a job!  Smile LoL!



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User currently offlineHALFA From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1354 posts, RR: 15
Reply 23, posted (6 years 1 month 6 hours ago) and read 3365 times:



Quoting Pohakuloa (Reply 22):
How about the arriving redeye from LAS?

I am betting that it will as quite often, inbound flight #17 turns around to LAX as flight #10.

Quoting Pohakuloa (Reply 22):
HA looking to perhaps get some of those 6 seater golf carts to transport its elderly and disabled passengers over to the ewa and central concourses.

Actually, the state provides these carts and are used frequently from the AG inspection site (between the inter-island terminal and the main terminal) and our gates at the EWA concourse. Just ask one of the aunties driving the carts for a ride, we often do if they have no passengers and we are scheduled out of gate 34, which seems like it's always the case when I go to work.  Smile

HALFA



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User currently offlineB767400ER From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 52 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (6 years 1 month 4 hours ago) and read 3323 times:

Hey HA guys, you think these changes will happen really soon? I'm flying back home in 2 weeks and would be cool to know I'm gonna get to deplane at 60/61!! And board it there to go back!


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25 Pohakuloa : Thanks to HALFA's info, Pohakuloa is now a happy man!!! Woo hoo!! ~Pohakuloa
26 HAL : Mostly maintenance. With the schedule we were running during the summer, there was no spare time to run the aircraft through heavy maintenance checks
27 SANFan : Thanx, HAL, for the explanation. (My post is gone but not forgotten... ) bb
28 Post contains images N7371f : N835AL is the passenger 737-200 still parked at the terminal. The plane is still registered to Aloha Airlines, Inc. So until the estate decides what t
29 UALFAson : When my buddy and I were island hopping on vacation back in May, I was surprised that there weren't any LIH-OGG nonstops, or at least more of them. T
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