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E-Jets In US West Coast  
User currently offlineThaiA345 From Indonesia, joined Oct 2006, 888 posts, RR: 15
Posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3279 times:

Hi Guys,

I mostly fly into SFO or LAX. Was wondering whats the best best of me flying an E-Jet (E170 and upwards) from either of these 2 airports, which airline and which routes. Are F available on the E-Jets?


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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 29181 posts, RR: 50
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3257 times:

Dont know of any E170 operators at either airport, but Air Canada flies E190s to both, while JetBlue flies E190s up and down the CA coast, with possibly a flight or two at SFO on the E190. B6 does not fly to LAX, but can be seen at LGB.

West Coast is much more home to the CRJ-700 series.

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User currently offlineFreezer41 From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 5 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3141 times:

B6 starts SFO-LGB service Oct 18th. You can find a SJC-LGB E190 flight

User currently onlineB6FA4ever From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 821 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2825 times:

we also have SFO/LGB - AUS on E190's as well. LGB - SJC, SEA, SFO, and PDX also/will have the E190's on those routes as well.

User currently offlineFlyboy7974 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 1540 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2693 times:

The west coast isn't as prone to the Ejets as you'll find on the east coast simply because of cost vs. airline infrastructure. The recent buildup of JetBlue and the E190 was more then welcomed and long overdue, I think mostly because so many of us just wanted something new to try, fly, see, chase and talk about, and better yet, it was a JetBlue product on the E190.

Last year Frontier did briefly offer service SFO-LAX on some of their flights as they were restructuring, moving a/c around, and once they found that their Airbus were just too big and they needed something smaller which still was eventually eliminated. Still was great to always see the Republic E170 flying the full colors of their mainline counterpart sporting the "tails."

Smaller regional jets are numerous throughout the west and play a much larger role in smaller to medium sized markets. Until this week or if not already canceled, ExpressJet flying as DeltaConnection did sport their E145 on many of the larger routes up and down the west such as SEA, PDX, SFO, SMF, OAK, RNO and others from their LAX base. Sad to see that their branded ops cease tomorrow also, other then that that leaves mainly Eagle and SkyWest flying jets for their larger namesakes.

The Cr7 was becoming more and more popular as well and I think United now has some of their express carriers flying the aircraft on larger routes but at offtimes to fill frequency without oversaturating certain markets. United has been playing with the Cr7 in the past year to two out of LAX quite a bit and although maybe direct competition on some of the ExpressJet routes that they were flying for Delta and since discontinued, you'll still find those jetting up and down the west coast. Larger player also with the Cr7 was Alaska and utilizing the Horizon fleet they filled previous voids by creating many new markets such as Santa Barbara and Fresno but in addition, avoided eliminating their PDX hub operation as AS streamlined their operations and Horizon took over some of the larger scale PDX flying to ONT, BUR, and also other frequencies to larger metro areas that didn't justify the larger mainline product. Quick sidenote there, just was booking a client and noticed briefly in their new timetable that they even out of PDX this week are flying the DH4 PDX-LAS which I found interesting and I think a first for that route. But, back to topic, as released quite sometime ago, AS has already decided with Horizon to rid the fleet of their Cr7 jets and fly all Dash-8-400 once the jets and also smaller Dash-8-200 are gone.

Even larger then the Cr7, sporadically you'll find a Cr9 in some of the west coast cities, flights flying as US Airways Express will fill a frequency to larger destinations or offer service to medium and smaller communities from the PHX hub and recently redesignated LAS focus city.

I think that's about it for U.S carriers. As previously mentioned, and many a good thing so far heard, Air Canada does offer quite a bit of international service to our northern neighbor with both E190 and Cr9 regional aircraft. Unique to their operation, Air Canada decided to offer a seemless product between mainline and regional jet flying and their regional jets offer not only first class cabins, but full meal offerings, even inflight entertainment systems and it blows me away how Air Canada really uses the E190 especially to the max of all limits on some routes out of YYZ to the far west such as SEA, PHX, SAN, LAS, and other destinations and it's just a hit/miss when to find those usually based on season and traffic flow.

As far as our other neighbor, Mexico to the south, I think Aeromexico is now receiving E190 into their regional fleet flown by AeroLitoral. They've flown the smaller E145 for quite a while and that could be seen occassionally at LAX and months ago even their smaller Sf340 were 3X weekly arrivals into LAX from Puerto Penasco/Rocky Point and Hermosillo. That service has since been terminated. Haven't heard much and not too sure what Aeromexico has planned for the E190 once fully in the fleet, filling in on routes within Mexico or opening new opportunities internationally northward to the U.S on routes that Aeromexico can't fill or might have tried and traffic didn't justify the larger mainline service, hopefully some of our A.netters more familiar with Aeromexico can help us out with that one.

And I'm spent, no, just trying to think of any others I missed, just going through all the terminals at LAX and I think I've covered most if not all the airlines you'll find there or north up in SFO flying regional jets. I keep thinking though I'm missing one, but oh well.

Well just thought of something else, not too sure right now because they just did cancel most of their scheduled and also casino charter flights, but Vision Air had been utilizing their D328 jets here and there on some flights when they were flying the scheduled VGT-IWA/CLD services and also the IFP-VGT/CLD/IWA/GEU flights that the Riverside Casino had contracted them for. Most flights were with the prop 328 counterpart, but every once in a while you'd get lucky with a sub and the jet would pop in, but since all that flying just stopped I think as of 8/25 is when I read all the press on it, I'm not sure what Vision will be doing other then back to their roots and flying their North Vegas to Grand Canyon and other high desert tour packages. It was expected that they'd be announcing anyday now flights out of Merced Castle to both Reno and North Las Vegas as well as charter services from Vegas to Mammoth Lakes, but I'm not too sure if that will ever happen. What else were they doing, oh yea, looking at Farmington, N.M EAS flights which was a no-go and they were flying a charter contract IAH-SRR 3x a week for a large casino just outside Ruidoso, but I think all that is over with now too. Little off main point, but thought I'd add because that D328 jet is a little rocket and always great to see around.

User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6170 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2669 times:

Quoting Flyboy7974 (Reply 4):
Little off main point, but thought I'd add because that D328 jet is a little rocket and always great to see around.

A rocket, but small, slow, and inefficient as hell. This is why—despite the CRJ-200's own flaws—Midwest decided that it was a MUCH better bird than the 328Jet.

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User currently offlineFlyboy7974 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 1540 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2493 times:

Agree with you to the fullest about all other comments, so slow it'd get kicked off airways and assigned lower altitudes from ATC is one thing an old good friend said when he was flying them out of MKE for Skyway.

Somebody else I knew very well through ERAU who's now flying for Frontier was working for ACA back just about 9/11. At the time, although she was LGA based she was t.d.y for the airline up in BOS for quite a while flying on the Do328 jet. On one of my many personal trips out to PHL to visit relatives, I decided to jet off for a couple days and nonrev on one of her passes from PHL-BOS flying as the Delta Connection and go see her, but also, fly actually with her on a leg of one of her trips. No joke, after takeoff, wasn't sure if we were a lightly loaded 328jet or a mini space shuttle because the thing climbed like no other but completely lost its uummmpphhhh once at cruise, time felt as though it completely stopped. She always laughed because ACA with Delta was moving those jets around so much there for a while that when they first would fly them into a new city, on the way out, controllers always made comments trying to keep up with the plane in climb, only problem on the flip of that, the "non-flying" crewmember was also kept much busier working and manning the radios as the plane climbed at such high rates.

User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 11166 posts, RR: 52
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2443 times:

You'll notice that the west coast has not been affected by the regional jet boom as much as the midwest and east have. The west coast still has a significant number of props from airlines like United Express, American Eagle and Horizon. There aren't many E-jets out on the west coast. SEA for example probably only sees a few dozen regional jet flights a day.

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