LIA310 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Mar 2008, 406 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (5 years 3 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 12473 times:
It's just a hybrid colour scheme for now. Its saves some weight.
The planes that are in this scheme about 4 of them I think have all come back from major maintenance checks, so instead of painting them back into the full scheme they painted them in this basic livery for the time being.
AA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3364 posts, RR: 4 Reply 2, posted (5 years 3 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 12451 times:
While many JM planes seem to be sporting the livery shown above, it is believed to be a temporary scheme. JM has not undergone any rebranding so the old "full" livery is still the official livery. It is the belief of many who post on A.Net, however, that this 'white' livery could become the standard eventually- it saves on paint, weight and time. JM has not really made an effort to repaint any of the a/c that come back from heavy checks in the white scheme, so only time will tell whether or not the scheme remains a permanent fixture.
One must also remember that the Government of Jamaica has set a deadline of March 2009 for divestment and it is believed that the new private owners will rebrand etc, so everything JM is doing now has more to do with the financials and profitability than long term a/c liveries and other cosmetic things. It is an airline in transition!
SCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8525 posts, RR: 5 Reply 5, posted (5 years 3 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 12320 times:
Quoting AA1818 (Reply 3): One must also remember that the Government of Jamaica has set a deadline of March 2009 for divestment and it is believed that the new private owners will rebrand etc, so everything JM is doing now has more to do with the financials and profitability than long term a/c liveries and other cosmetic things.
I believe that the deadline for divestment has recently been deferred. Also, Shirley is still on the scene. I'm sure that the A-319 will be painted in full JM colours by the end of this year. Operating the A-319 was a good choice on JM's part though. Also, I believe they will also receive two more A-319s.
I wish I knew that answer to that question. However, they will be cutting service to 2 North American routes soon, (MCO and ORD). Also, they will resume service to YYZ, after having discontinued their codeshare with AC.
AA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3364 posts, RR: 4 Reply 10, posted (5 years 3 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 12033 times:
Quoting SCL767 (Reply 10): JM is currently in the process of slashing its unprofitable routes; while focusing on their key routes. EWR, ORD, and MCO are just not profitable routes for Air Jamaica, so they will be discontinued.
Cheers for the info. I know there was talk of this in the Caribbean Forum. Are there any confirmed sources or do you have any dates for the suspended services? I knew EWR is gone "long time". JM is also supposed to be ending on Caribbean destination. ANy idea which one that might be?
I know MCO will be gone soon; also, the GOJ subsidized AA to fly ORD-MBJ this winter, (along with DFW-MBJ). That route will also go, as it is expensive for JM to operate into ORD due to various costs, and it also requires a crew layover. Also, JM will reduce its BGI-JFK flight to 4x weekly soon, (it will revert back to daily service by winter). As for which island JM will drop; I would say either NAS or CUR. However, as we know, no decision has been made as yet. Also, in the Caribbean Forum there was "talk" that JM might start service to a new island.
Rookinla From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 307 posts, RR: 2 Reply 12, posted (5 years 3 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 11846 times:
Quoting SCL767 (Reply 9): JM is currently in the process of slashing its unprofitable routes; while focusing on their key routes. EWR, ORD, and MCO are just not profitable routes for Air Jamaica, so they will be discontinued.
Thanks for the info...I know that this is slightly off topic but since we are discussing Jamaican aviation a bit...Does anyone else here think that B6 might try MCO-MBJ with an E190? They would have the advantage of feed that JM does not have...
AA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3364 posts, RR: 4 Reply 16, posted (5 years 3 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 11597 times:
Quoting Superfly (Reply 13):
Huge sigh of relief!
I would hate to see Air Jamaica change their colors.
I would expect some change in livery once JM is privatized. Perhaps something simpler, easier to maintain will be applied. I have never been a fan of JM's livery, however, that said I do like the fact that their a/c aren't white and have lots of colour on them!
Quoting SCL767 (Reply 14):
Also, Air Jamaica's winter schedule is still showing ORD-MBJ and MCO-MBJ.
So does that mean that they won't be dropped till Feb/ Mar 2009?
SCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8525 posts, RR: 5 Reply 19, posted (5 years 3 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 11545 times:
Quoting AA1818 (Reply 16): So does that mean that they won't be dropped till Feb/ Mar 2009?
AA ORD-MBJ service begins 01/31/09; therefore, I would expect that JM will suspend service to ORD in January, (also UA is on the route). But then again it's JM so who knows where they will be flying come January.
Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 17): Well at least the 319's are new as they are former Skybus
Yes, they will be used on JM's thinner routes such as the LAX route; if JM keeps LAX. Also, they currently use North American to operate some of their flights, this will end when they receive the other A-319s.
NAS is not going to be dropped, at least not in favour of CUR. NAS has been a pretty decent route, in fact they see up to the A321 at times. One has to consider that the route, is quite alot of VFR traffic as well.
Islands like CUR etc, depend on American tourists connecting ex MBJ, so these route aren't the best performing for obvious reason.
I will try and ask my brother what is the last office rumours, as he works for them.
I also think it will be CUR too; CUR just doesn't fit into their current plans for divestment.
Quoting AA1818 (Reply 16): I have never been a fan of JM's livery, however, that said I do like the fact that their a/c aren't white and have lots of colour on them!
The A-320 that is in the hybrid scheme is leased from Xtra Airways. The Airbus A-320 from Xtra Airways is operating the MBJ-Orlando route as well as the MBJ-Philadelphia route for the summer.
Also, Air Jamaica currently operates one leased Boeing 757 from North American Airlines.
It has been operating MBJ-New York JFK JM011/010 flight since 25JUN08 and ends on 07SEP08. The 757 also covers MBJ-Ft. Lauderdale service on JM035/034 for the same period.
Crownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1724 posts, RR: 6 Reply 23, posted (5 years 3 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 11372 times:
ItalianFlyer...If memory serves me correctly, the a/c routed on a one-stop. I do remember that the YYZ flight routed through PHL (#40/41). Both YYZ/YUL operated originally with DC-9 eqpt. Additionally, I believe the original ORD flight (also with a DC-9) routed through NAS, but it may also have been the Canadian cities (the memory is foggy on this). The original cities for JM that stretched North with the DC-9's were PHL, BWI, ORD, YYZ and YUL (and possibly DTW). JFK got the DC-8's...Eventually, these other cities transitioned to DC-8 then 727-200 & A300 eqpt. and routes and stops were adjusted.