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Air Jamaica New Colors?  
User currently onlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2318 posts, RR: 21
Posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 13010 times:

I came across this picture:


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Is this just a hybrid color scheme or is this the new revised colors ?

[Edited 2008-09-01 12:00:17]


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User currently offlineLIA310 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Mar 2008, 407 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 13036 times:

It's just a hybrid colour scheme for now. Its saves some weight.

The planes that are in this scheme about 4 of them I think have all come back from major maintenance checks, so instead of painting them back into the full scheme they painted them in this basic livery for the time being.


User currently offlineAA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3433 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 13014 times:

While many JM planes seem to be sporting the livery shown above, it is believed to be a temporary scheme. JM has not undergone any rebranding so the old "full" livery is still the official livery. It is the belief of many who post on A.Net, however, that this 'white' livery could become the standard eventually- it saves on paint, weight and time. JM has not really made an effort to repaint any of the a/c that come back from heavy checks in the white scheme, so only time will tell whether or not the scheme remains a permanent fixture.

One must also remember that the Government of Jamaica has set a deadline of March 2009 for divestment and it is believed that the new private owners will rebrand etc, so everything JM is doing now has more to do with the financials and profitability than long term a/c liveries and other cosmetic things. It is an airline in transition!

AA1818



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User currently onlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2318 posts, RR: 21
Reply 3, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 12956 times:



Quoting Yellowtail (Reply 2):
Can the mods please fix the spelling of Jamaica....

I fixed it, so sorry- this stuff happens lol.


I hope that the investors create something a bit simpler and along with it being somewhat colorful too!



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User currently offlineTDubJFK From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 12965 times:

Now THIS was a hot livery. How I wish they'd go back to it!


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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8805 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 12883 times:
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Quoting AA1818 (Reply 3):
One must also remember that the Government of Jamaica has set a deadline of March 2009 for divestment and it is believed that the new private owners will rebrand etc, so everything JM is doing now has more to do with the financials and profitability than long term a/c liveries and other cosmetic things.

I believe that the deadline for divestment has recently been deferred. Also, Shirley is still on the scene. I'm sure that the A-319 will be painted in full JM colours by the end of this year. Operating the A-319 was a good choice on JM's part though. Also, I believe they will also receive two more A-319s.


User currently offlineAA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3433 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 12829 times:



Quoting SCL767 (Reply 6):
I believe that the deadline for divestment has recently been deferred.

Why am I not suprised. From what I can tell JM is doing, they are in no better position now than they were 6 months ago. Very little, very slow progress. Any idea what the new timetable is?

AA1818



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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8805 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 12802 times:
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Quoting AA1818 (Reply 7):

I wish I knew that answer to that question. However, they will be cutting service to 2 North American routes soon, (MCO and ORD). Also, they will resume service to YYZ, after having discontinued their codeshare with AC.

Maybe their scheme will look like this:
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Air Jamaica/BWIA 727-78 at JFK.
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User currently offlineRookinla From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 307 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 12743 times:



Quoting SCL767 (Reply 8):
However, they will be cutting service to 2 North American routes soon, (MCO and ORD).

Is this a frequency cutback or a complete discontinuation of MCO?


User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8805 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 12699 times:
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JM is currently in the process of slashing its unprofitable routes; while focusing on their key routes. EWR, ORD, and MCO are just not profitable routes for Air Jamaica, so they will be discontinued.

User currently offlineAA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3433 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 12596 times:



Quoting SCL767 (Reply 10):
JM is currently in the process of slashing its unprofitable routes; while focusing on their key routes. EWR, ORD, and MCO are just not profitable routes for Air Jamaica, so they will be discontinued.

Cheers for the info. I know there was talk of this in the Caribbean Forum. Are there any confirmed sources or do you have any dates for the suspended services? I knew EWR is gone "long time". JM is also supposed to be ending on Caribbean destination. ANy idea which one that might be?

AA1818



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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8805 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 12532 times:
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Quoting AA1818 (Reply 10):

I know MCO will be gone soon; also, the GOJ subsidized AA to fly ORD-MBJ this winter, (along with DFW-MBJ). That route will also go, as it is expensive for JM to operate into ORD due to various costs, and it also requires a crew layover. Also, JM will reduce its BGI-JFK flight to 4x weekly soon, (it will revert back to daily service by winter). As for which island JM will drop; I would say either NAS or CUR. However, as we know, no decision has been made as yet. Also, in the Caribbean Forum there was "talk" that JM might start service to a new island.


User currently offlineRookinla From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 307 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 12409 times:



Quoting SCL767 (Reply 9):
JM is currently in the process of slashing its unprofitable routes; while focusing on their key routes. EWR, ORD, and MCO are just not profitable routes for Air Jamaica, so they will be discontinued.

Thanks for the info...I know that this is slightly off topic but since we are discussing Jamaican aviation a bit...Does anyone else here think that B6 might try MCO-MBJ with an E190? They would have the advantage of feed that JM does not have...


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39854 posts, RR: 74
Reply 13, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 12402 times:



Quoting LIA310 (Reply 1):
they painted them in this basic livery for the time being.



Quoting AA1818 (Reply 2):
JM has not undergone any rebranding so the old "full" livery is still the official livery.

Huge sigh of relief!
I would hate to see Air Jamaica change their colors.



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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8805 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 12361 times:
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Quoting Rookinla (Reply 12):
Does anyone else here think that B6 might try MCO-MBJ

They might, since they are looking for new international routes, and already fly MCO-SDQ, and MCO-CUN.

Quoting Rookinla (Reply 12):

Also, Air Jamaica's winter schedule is still showing ORD-MBJ and MCO-MBJ.


User currently offlineTN757Flyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 12322 times:



Quoting Superfly (Reply 13):
I would hate to see Air Jamaica change their colors.

Agreed. They have one of the nicer liveries flying today. Lots of color. Lets hope they don't do the euro-white thing.


User currently offlineAA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3433 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 12160 times:



Quoting Superfly (Reply 13):

Huge sigh of relief!
I would hate to see Air Jamaica change their colors.

I would expect some change in livery once JM is privatized. Perhaps something simpler, easier to maintain will be applied. I have never been a fan of JM's livery, however, that said I do like the fact that their a/c aren't white and have lots of colour on them!

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 14):

Also, Air Jamaica's winter schedule is still showing ORD-MBJ and MCO-MBJ.

So does that mean that they won't be dropped till Feb/ Mar 2009?

AA1818



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User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8671 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 12147 times:

Well at least the 319's are new as they are former Skybus examples per a magazine.

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User currently offlineItalianFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1099 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 12127 times:



Quoting TDubJFK (Reply 4):

A DC9-30 from YUL to MBJ???? Thats just wrong! lol


User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8805 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 12108 times:
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Quoting AA1818 (Reply 16):
So does that mean that they won't be dropped till Feb/ Mar 2009?

AA ORD-MBJ service begins 01/31/09; therefore, I would expect that JM will suspend service to ORD in January, (also UA is on the route). But then again it's JM so who knows where they will be flying come January.

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 17):
Well at least the 319's are new as they are former Skybus

Yes, they will be used on JM's thinner routes such as the LAX route; if JM keeps LAX. Also, they currently use North American to operate some of their flights, this will end when they receive the other A-319s.


User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 12061 times:



Quoting SCL767 (Reply 11):
I would say either NAS or CUR.

NAS is not going to be dropped, at least not in favour of CUR. NAS has been a pretty decent route, in fact they see up to the A321 at times. One has to consider that the route, is quite alot of VFR traffic as well.

Islands like CUR etc, depend on American tourists connecting ex MBJ, so these route aren't the best performing for obvious reason.

I will try and ask my brother what is the last office rumours, as he works for them.



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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8805 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 12037 times:
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Quoting Captaink (Reply 20):

I also think it will be CUR too; CUR just doesn't fit into their current plans for divestment.

Quoting AA1818 (Reply 16):
I have never been a fan of JM's livery, however, that said I do like the fact that their a/c aren't white and have lots of colour on them!

The A-320 that is in the hybrid scheme is leased from Xtra Airways. The Airbus A-320 from Xtra Airways is operating the MBJ-Orlando route as well as the MBJ-Philadelphia route for the summer.
Also, Air Jamaica currently operates one leased Boeing 757 from North American Airlines.
It has been operating MBJ-New York JFK JM011/010 flight since 25JUN08 and ends on 07SEP08. The 757 also covers MBJ-Ft. Lauderdale service on JM035/034 for the same period.

Quoting ItalianFlyer (Reply 18):

They also used to operate the DC-8 into YUL.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39854 posts, RR: 74
Reply 22, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 12011 times:



Quoting AA1818 (Reply 16):
I would expect some change in livery once JM is privatized. Perhaps something simpler, easier to maintain will be applied.

Let's hope not.

Quoting TN757Flyer (Reply 15):
They have one of the nicer liveries flying today. Lots of color. Lets hope they don't do the euro-white thing.

Agreed!
Keep Air Jamaica colorful.



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User currently offlineCrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1899 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 11935 times:

ItalianFlyer...If memory serves me correctly, the a/c routed on a one-stop. I do remember that the YYZ flight routed through PHL (#40/41). Both YYZ/YUL operated originally with DC-9 eqpt. Additionally, I believe the original ORD flight (also with a DC-9) routed through NAS, but it may also have been the Canadian cities (the memory is foggy on this). The original cities for JM that stretched North with the DC-9's were PHL, BWI, ORD, YYZ and YUL (and possibly DTW). JFK got the DC-8's...Eventually, these other cities transitioned to DC-8 then 727-200 & A300 eqpt. and routes and stops were adjusted.

User currently offlineAirJamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2516 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 11804 times:

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 7):
Also, they will resume service to YYZ[/quote

JM flies to YYZ from KIN daily as flight 79 and has been doing so for quite some time now.


[quote=SCL767,reply=9]EWR,

Already discontinued for quite some time now.

[Edited 2008-09-01 20:57:06]


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25 SCL767 : Yeah, I noticed that; and MBJ-LAX is still operating into the winter. Will JM still take on 2 more A-319s?
26 AirJamaica : I read earlier that the plan was to get two more.
27 AirJamaica : JM livery has always been colorful. It spells " Jamaica" . Vibrant, lively, and upbeat. Some people like it alot some don't. For some its just too mu
28 Everett67 : LIA310 mentioned that the hybrid paint scheme saves some weight. How much can a paint job add to an AC?
29 SCL767 : With JM discontinuing its operations with North American and Xtra Airways soon; hopefully the Board has already sealed the deal for the two other A-3
30 SCL767 : Look at AA's color scheme.
31 AirJamaica : Probably not a significant amount of weight but additional weight non the less. That was one of the reasons why AA chose to go 'silver' so to speak.
32 SCL767 : The reason I ask is that JM's website always has CUR on sale. And they still show UVF as a destination too.
33 Post contains links and images MIAMIx707 : THANKFULLY those UGLY white planes are not a new livery, only temporary... That was very good looking, but the current paintscheme is absolutely gorge
34 AirJamaica : Very true. There is usually sale to that destination. CUR is extremely popular with church groups, school groups etc as well and they take advantage
35 AirJamaica : Its hard for me to say which JM livery I prefer. I like both the old and the new one. My only beef with the new JM livery is how they depict the ' Do
36 SCL767 : UVF just came to mind since Sandals, Beaches, etc. all have properties there. I see MBJ is getting a new high-end resort. That's great; POS and TAB b
37 AirJamaica : Yes. Many large hotel development is currently on in Jamaica. Iberostar in MBJ is one such latest addition. And the Jamaica Palladium is another mass
38 Post contains images SCL767 :
39 SXDFC : One thing I tend to do from time to time is create fantasy liveries, so since this thread that I started is about their livery, if you guys can give m
40 AirJamaica : I do not have the registration of the A319. Honestly I can't Imagine JM without the " doctor bird " . Neither can I imagine it in any other color sch
41 AA1818 : While I feel no specific affinity with the 'doctor bird', I do think it is an elegant and appropriate logo and should be kept. That said, the colour
42 AirJamaica : I think JM graphic designers were deliberately trying to stay away from this practice as many airlines worldwide use their flag colors on their natio
43 LimaMike : The A319 is registered 6Y-JAD. And just for info, JM's all-white aircraft are 6Y-JAI (A320), 6Y-JMF (A320), 6Y-JMD (A321), and the new A319 mentioned
44 AA1818 : I agree I like it too! I guess so, but Jms colours are so unique. It's not just another Red, White and Blue livery. If I have the time this weekend I
45 AirJamaica : OK. Thanks for info. Will look out for it.
46 SXDFC : Damn! the A319 is all white? =./
47 AirJamaica : Yes she is. Another white lady. Two more are on on the way.[Edited 2008-09-09 18:58:03]
48 MIAMIx707 : You know it's Armageddon when the last great livery in Latin America/Caribbean is getting painted white, ugh shoot me. Its the end of the world boyz
49 HummingBird : You can add 6Y-JAG to the list...It returned this summer from the Chinese lease.... With the planned arrival of two addditional A319s, rumour has it
50 Psimpson : 6Y-JAG was never leased out, and only recently underwent a major overhaul and repaint. It was never a white JM A320. The aircraft you are thinking ab
51 AA1818 : So this brings the Jm fleet to 15 a/c: 1 A319, 6 A321s and 8 A320s with -JMJ returning? Also, some time ago it was said that the A319 was for MBJ-KIN
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