DFW13L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 18313 times:
Three ATR-72 212As arrived at DFW Sunday. And it looks like they will board with jetbridge boarding. I wasn't expecting this, so, as I zoomed by on the Skylink train, I quickly got out my camera and snapped these two shots!
From what I've heard, all the DFW planes will be the newer 6-blade ATR-72 212A. The 4-blade 212s will remain in the Caribbean, as they have a bit more cargo capacity.
I'm very glad to see American Eagle is keeping up its standards with jetbridge boarding. This is gate B37. The ATRs will park at the high B gates where the Saabs park.
These AT7s start off with flights to GRK and LAW on September 3rd.
MOBflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1209 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 18282 times:
Nice. I have to wonder how much extra capacity, if any, AA/MX has in the ATR fleet. We were under the impression here on the Gulf Coast that GPT/MOB/PNS/VPS-MIA on ATRs were imminent. Of course, this was immediately before the spike in oil and the subsequent reallocation of ATR capacity. Are these routes still in the works, or have the aforementioned events canned our hopes in MOB of network hub service to Florida?
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 34118 posts, RR: 70
Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 17639 times:
Quoting MOBflyer (Reply 1): I have to wonder how much extra capacity, if any, AA/MX has in the ATR fleet. We were under the impression here on the Gulf Coast that GPT/MOB/PNS/VPS-MIA on ATRs were imminent.
Only MIA-PNS is realistic in the short-term.
AA might even fly a DFW-PNS-MIA flight with an ATR to bridge Dallas and Miami's ATR bases if they feel it might become necessary to bridge them. As of now, though, AA does not plan to bridge MIA and DFW.
Finally, the ATRs will see a higher utilization rate. It will be interesting to see them at DFW. Eagle starts its SJU-SLU-CIW service this week; so we'll see the ATRs operating from the Southern Caribbean, all the way up to DFW, and beyond. Will be very interesting the see the ATRs operating into many different market.
Bingo From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 359 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 17526 times:
Quoting UnitedTristar (Reply 4): MSP has a sweet commuter terminal where they even use jetbridges on Saab's , I cringe everytime I see one moving toward the spinner!
Imagine having to try and drive one towards a spinner? Not for me...thx!
Quoting AlitaliaMD11 (Reply 12): You can certainly tell the difference from the interiors! I've had my fair share of flights on SJU based birds. There loud, worn out, and uncomfortable.
I think American should focus on purchasing some of the new ATR's and sending them down to SJU. It's a great aircraft for their purpose but an upgrade is needed.
The funny part is that the old birds would probably be flown locally and compete against AA down there. I lived 100 yards from the end of RW27 at SIG for about 8 years. SIG was/is a major island hopping platform. I bet a good number of the operators down there would snatch these birds up quick if they went for sale.
That would take an act of God unless AA management agreed to let main line pilots fly them.
AA would probably go with the CRJ family for larger RJ lift, already have the 700 on property and there are no pilot conversions needed between the 700 and 900. Would have to ramp up training though for the mainline guys flying them.
KingCavalier From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 1332 posts, RR: 15
Reply 16, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 17185 times:
I believe it was an American Eagle employee in CMI or BMI that built the first jet bridge adaptor and proved that jet bridge boarding was pssobile on the ATR.
We all know what aircraft we're getting on when we fly, but most passengers don't. I've had passengers board a prop via a jet bridge and had no idea they were boarding a prop because they were boarding the aircraft via a jet bridge.
Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness
Stillageek From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 73 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 16953 times:
I'm glad to ATR's are here. Using the CRJ and ERJ for DFW-GRK was silly...but needed due to the weight of the military bags. The ATR will be a Texas, Oklahoma and Louisiana plane only for the near future. AA is using the ERJ on some odd routes though. DFW-ACT and DFW-TYR. They are still keeping the CRJ DFW-SHV which is a great route for the ATR. I will be flying it as of Feb 09 after I get displaced off the CRJ.
TN757Flyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 16766 times:
I have some fond memories of the AT7's at DFW the first time they used them there. I recall once the bus driver took us to the wrong plane and people actually started boarding the aircraft before it was realized - they barely caught the driver before she drove off. Once in SHV. a little old lady nearly freaked when they started re-distributing pax for weight/balance issues, then again when she got a glimpse of the very young pilot - "My grandson is older than him!" It'll be nice to see them back, and airbridges to boot!
William From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1514 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 16064 times:
We will see how long GRK stays an all ATR station, I doubt for long. COEX is operating a mix of RJ and Saabs though rumors of Q400s coming to IAH are growing. Atlantic Southeast flies an RJ thrice daily to ATL. And there are strong rumors of an carrier to start service (most likely an RJ) to a western hub. The Central Texas area is one of the fastest growing areas in Texas (DR Horton and Centex are sending construction crews there to keep up with demand).
While I can understand the economies of the using the ATR, and the resulting increase in seats, I wander how long it will last.
Either rate the Central Texas area has come along way from the 70s and 80s where the only air service they had were Rio Airways flying Twin Otters.