DFW13L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 14305 times:
Three ATR-72 212As arrived at DFW Sunday. And it looks like they will board with jetbridge boarding. I wasn't expecting this, so, as I zoomed by on the Skylink train, I quickly got out my camera and snapped these two shots!
From what I've heard, all the DFW planes will be the newer 6-blade ATR-72 212A. The 4-blade 212s will remain in the Caribbean, as they have a bit more cargo capacity.
I'm very glad to see American Eagle is keeping up its standards with jetbridge boarding. This is gate B37. The ATRs will park at the high B gates where the Saabs park.
These AT7s start off with flights to GRK and LAW on September 3rd.
MOBflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1209 posts, RR: 5 Reply 1, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 14274 times:
Nice. I have to wonder how much extra capacity, if any, AA/MX has in the ATR fleet. We were under the impression here on the Gulf Coast that GPT/MOB/PNS/VPS-MIA on ATRs were imminent. Of course, this was immediately before the spike in oil and the subsequent reallocation of ATR capacity. Are these routes still in the works, or have the aforementioned events canned our hopes in MOB of network hub service to Florida?
Atrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5613 posts, RR: 54 Reply 3, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 14161 times:
Wow very cool Matt!
I have never boarded a prop plane by a jetbridge before so this oughta be sweet and excellent when weather hits!
GRK I believe is Fort Hood, Texas, unless Matt means another GRK Airport?
Alex
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UnitedTristar From United States of America, joined exactly 9 years ago today! , 1240 posts, RR: 4 Reply 4, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 14173 times:
United_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7157 posts, RR: 8 Reply 5, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 14162 times:
Quoting TDubJFK (Reply 2): Quoting DFW13L (Thread starter):
These AT7s start off with flights to GRK and LAW on September 3rd.
GRK? where dat?
Robert Gray Aaf Airport (Fort Hood/Killeen, TX)
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DFW13L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 14142 times:
GRK is Killeen, TX. Yes, and Fort Hood is in the area, but ILE was closed and operations were moved to GRK a couple years ago. It's a military base--Grey Air Force Base or something?
Captaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5093 posts, RR: 13 Reply 8, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 13754 times:
Quoting AlitaliaMD11 (Reply 7): How new are those 6 blade ATR-72? They looks a lot newer then the beat up ones based in SJU!
The seats are different, and they seem a bit more comfortable than the older birds. Above alI have found them to be a bit quieter than the SJU based birds. I have flown then between MIA and NAS.
Here are two pics, one of each, guess which is which.
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31115 posts, RR: 74 Reply 10, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 13631 times:
Quoting MOBflyer (Reply 1): I have to wonder how much extra capacity, if any, AA/MX has in the ATR fleet. We were under the impression here on the Gulf Coast that GPT/MOB/PNS/VPS-MIA on ATRs were imminent.
Only MIA-PNS is realistic in the short-term.
AA might even fly a DFW-PNS-MIA flight with an ATR to bridge Dallas and Miami's ATR bases if they feel it might become necessary to bridge them. As of now, though, AA does not plan to bridge MIA and DFW.
Finally, the ATRs will see a higher utilization rate. It will be interesting to see them at DFW. Eagle starts its SJU-SLU-CIW service this week; so we'll see the ATRs operating from the Southern Caribbean, all the way up to DFW, and beyond. Will be very interesting the see the ATRs operating into many different market.
AlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 15 Reply 12, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 13557 times:
You can certainly tell the difference from the interiors! I've had my fair share of flights on SJU based birds. There loud, worn out, and uncomfortable.
I think American should focus on purchasing some of the new ATR's and sending them down to SJU. It's a great aircraft for their purpose but an upgrade is needed.
Bingo From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 359 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 13518 times:
Quoting UnitedTristar (Reply 4): MSP has a sweet commuter terminal where they even use jetbridges on Saab's , I cringe everytime I see one moving toward the spinner!
Imagine having to try and drive one towards a spinner? Not for me...thx!
Quoting AlitaliaMD11 (Reply 12): You can certainly tell the difference from the interiors! I've had my fair share of flights on SJU based birds. There loud, worn out, and uncomfortable.
I think American should focus on purchasing some of the new ATR's and sending them down to SJU. It's a great aircraft for their purpose but an upgrade is needed.
The funny part is that the old birds would probably be flown locally and compete against AA down there. I lived 100 yards from the end of RW27 at SIG for about 8 years. SIG was/is a major island hopping platform. I bet a good number of the operators down there would snatch these birds up quick if they went for sale.
Dsuairptman From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 807 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 13500 times:
Quoting SCL767 (Reply 13): AA needs some E75s and some E90s.
That would take an act of God unless AA management agreed to let main line pilots fly them.
AA would probably go with the CRJ family for larger RJ lift, already have the 700 on property and there are no pilot conversions needed between the 700 and 900. Would have to ramp up training though for the mainline guys flying them.
KingCavalier From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 1283 posts, RR: 18 Reply 16, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 13177 times:
I believe it was an American Eagle employee in CMI or BMI that built the first jet bridge adaptor and proved that jet bridge boarding was pssobile on the ATR.
We all know what aircraft we're getting on when we fly, but most passengers don't. I've had passengers board a prop via a jet bridge and had no idea they were boarding a prop because they were boarding the aircraft via a jet bridge.
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Stillageek From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 69 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 12945 times:
I'm glad to ATR's are here. Using the CRJ and ERJ for DFW-GRK was silly...but needed due to the weight of the military bags. The ATR will be a Texas, Oklahoma and Louisiana plane only for the near future. AA is using the ERJ on some odd routes though. DFW-ACT and DFW-TYR. They are still keeping the CRJ DFW-SHV which is a great route for the ATR. I will be flying it as of Feb 09 after I get displaced off the CRJ.
TN757Flyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 19, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 12758 times:
I have some fond memories of the AT7's at DFW the first time they used them there. I recall once the bus driver took us to the wrong plane and people actually started boarding the aircraft before it was realized - they barely caught the driver before she drove off. Once in SHV. a little old lady nearly freaked when they started re-distributing pax for weight/balance issues, then again when she got a glimpse of the very young pilot - "My grandson is older than him!" It'll be nice to see them back, and airbridges to boot!
Airliner777 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 493 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 12717 times:
Bok269 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 2105 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 12271 times:
Quoting UnitedTristar (Reply 4): MSP has a sweet commuter terminal where they even use jetbridges on Saab's , I cringe everytime I see one moving toward the spinner!
AA used Jetbridges at ORD on the ATR in the 90's
CO Connection uses them in EWR for the Q400s and at many of the Q's outstations.
William From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1138 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 12056 times:
We will see how long GRK stays an all ATR station, I doubt for long. COEX is operating a mix of RJ and Saabs though rumors of Q400s coming to IAH are growing. Atlantic Southeast flies an RJ thrice daily to ATL. And there are strong rumors of an carrier to start service (most likely an RJ) to a western hub. The Central Texas area is one of the fastest growing areas in Texas (DR Horton and Centex are sending construction crews there to keep up with demand).
While I can understand the economies of the using the ATR, and the resulting increase in seats, I wander how long it will last.
Either rate the Central Texas area has come along way from the 70s and 80s where the only air service they had were Rio Airways flying Twin Otters.
25 A342: The 6-bladed prop was primarily introduced to reduce noise, but I don't know about performance differences.
26 Okie: Rio Airways, Taxicab Yellow, flying Dash7's and Twin Otters. Possibly a precursor to DHL paint scheme. Really tickled the gag reflex on appearance, i
27 William: Yes,Rio brings back some fond memories. Those Dash 8s were really loud, the old Beechcraft 1900s took off like a rocked they the pilot would hold the
28 Splitz: oh crap. The SJU Maintenance couldn't troubleshoot an ATR42/72 worth a damn! Hopefully the folks up at DFW can do a BIT better......guess we'll see if
29 R2rho: It is still called -212A by American Eagle, but elsewhere we know it as the -500. So these are, in fact, of the newer variant, which is quiet, smooth
30 Teme82: That must be it Good looking bird in American Eagles colors.
31 Icna05e: Well, the thread starter said that they kept the -200s at SJU for their higher cargocapacity. So how's that? Do they have a reduced cargo space?
32 DFW13L: Someone in SJU explained it to me, but I forgot. It could be the weight difference, since the 4-blade has 2 fewer seats, and therefore more weight av
33 FRAspotter: When will CLL (College Station) and GGG (Longview) see the ATRs?
34 ThePinnacleKid: http://www.aa.com/aa/i18nForward.do?...aboutUs/ourPlanes/ATR72Seating.jsp First.. go look at the seat map of the American Eagle ATR72's... This aircr
35 A388: Indeed a very strange sight to see a ATR sized aircraft being boarded via jetbridges. Great! A388
36 XPJets: After witnessing an incident at RST where an employee did hit a Saab spinner with a jetbridge, I cringe every time I see someone pulling a jetbridge
37 Ssides: I was also quite surprised when Eagle announced its ATR routes. Cities like AMA, MAF, LBB, and SHV -- strong, longer, larger markets where (in most c
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