SXM Landing Nearly Hits Bystanders? — Civil Aviation Forum

Sponsor Message:


My Starred Topics \| Profile \| New Topic \| Forum Index \| Help \| Search

SXM Landing Nearly Hits Bystanders?

KiwiinOz From New Zealand, joined Oct 2005, 2029 posts, RR: 5
Posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 8972 times:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/2/story.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10530150

I can't actually view this video, I am in China at the moment and it appears the access to the liveleak link is blocked. I assume it is a typical press overreaction to a typical SXM landing but thought I would post it just in case it's more exciting than most

2012....the year for goofing off

20 replies: All unread, jump to last

Planesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4088 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 8950 times:

This video seems to be suddenly spreading across the internet, despite being over two years old. KLM don't even send the 747-400 to SXM at present.

Crownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1593 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 8924 times:

This video has been brought up before...Its the one of the KLM 747 just barely clearing the fence..As SXM landings go, this one is as about as close as you can get without taking out that fence. Also the approach where the film pics up the action appears to be lower then most others..(just my opinion)

Babybus From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3512 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 8249 times:

If you notice the verb tenses used by the journalist, this incident could have happened at any time in the past. Just because it's in today's edition people will think it happened yesterday. Yeah sure

Newspapers write and print past stories with vague tenses all the time.

That must have sure been one slow news day!

and with that..cabin crew, seats for landing please.

LGBFltTrainer From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 98 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 7399 times:

Hey...it is, after all, SXM...this ain't a surprise, especially around here.

And, boy, would I love to be relaxing on Maho Beach when those babies come in low!

Overt enthusiast...like that's a BAD thing?

Manfredj From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1132 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 6296 times:

My fear is that the liberal press will get their hands on this and scream liability, either forcing a change in procedure or try to close the airport down all together, without even mentioning the age of this video.

Before you say this is to rash, consider what they did to the Concorde. Scary stuff to think about.

757: The last of the best

Jorge1812 From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 3141 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5210 times:

With sound.

georg

Gunsontheroof From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3460 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4888 times:

Surprised I haven't seen this before if it's popped up around here on a few occassions--quite a low approach!

Quoting Manfredj (Reply 5):
the liberal press

Quoting LGBFltTrainer (Reply 4):
And, boy, would I love to be relaxing on Maho Beach when those babies come in low!

Yes indeed.

Quoting Babybus (Reply 3):
Newspapers write and print past stories with vague tenses all the time.

I wouldn't have been surprised if they'd shown a video of a passenger L-1011 and used the same tense.

Anyways, cool video.

Next Flight: TBA!

Swissy From Switzerland, joined Jan 2005, 1734 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4769 times:

Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 7):
Surprised I haven't seen this before if it's popped up around here on a few occassions--quite a low approach!

The lower the better..... Big grin

, have spend over 6 weeks in total over the last 8 years at Maho Beach so I would say lower than usual but still far far away from the fence top... Big grin

Cheerios,

Speedbird741 From Portugal, joined Aug 2008, 654 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4685 times:

Quoting Planesarecool (Reply 1):
This video seems to be suddenly spreading across the internet, despite being over two years old. KLM don't even send the 747-400 to SXM at present.

so what metal are they flying into sxm ?

Speedbird741

Boa noite Faro, Air Portugal 257 climbing flight level 340

United787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2342 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4561 times:

Wasn't this being investigated by KLM?

That is crazy low!

Boeing727 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 934 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4302 times:

...same landing as the following photo???..

View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Chris Starnes

Boeing727

SJC4Me From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 366 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3421 times:

Quoting Boeing727 (Reply 11):
...same landing as the following photo???..

I don't think so because the 747 in the video touches down 2-3 seconds after clearing the fence. That photo seems to show a touchdown within 1 second of clearing.

Unable.

Avi8tir From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 396 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3336 times:

Quoting SJC4Me (Reply 12):
I don't think so because the 747 in the video touches down 2-3 seconds after clearing the fence. That photo seems to show a touchdown within 1 second of clearing.

check the video again. the plane clearly touches down within 1 second of clearing the fence and appears to do so on the chevrons. IIRC, the video and the photo are of the same landing.

*Long live the Widget*

Gunsontheroof From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3460 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3132 times:

Quoting Avi8tir (Reply 13):

check the video again. the plane clearly touches down within 1 second of clearing the fence and appears to do so on the chevrons. IIRC, the video and the photo are of the same landing.

The view could be blocked by the guy with the white bag, but there don't appear to be any "fence huggers" in the video as there are in the photo. For that matter, the plane in the video clearly touches down beyond the chevrons--you can see the wheels hit the ground.

[Edited 2008-09-02 20:04:09]

Next Flight: TBA!

MIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2890 times:

Thank you for this thread, I hadn't seen it, great video!

That is very very low, pilots must have done it on purpose to go as low as possible. Probably about 6 feet or maybe even less from clearing the fence.

413X3 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1983 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2628 times:

My guess is it was the first landing for a first officer, without a glide slope for guidance he/she just probably came in too low.

WILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8473 posts, RR: 78
Reply 17, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2576 times:

AIRLINERS.NET CREW
HEAD MODERATOR

Quoting 413X3 (Reply 16):
My guess is it was the first landing for a first officer, without a glide slope for guidance he/she just probably came in too low.

That is a pretty vague. Even if it is the 1st landing of the FO he shouldn't be so low. And the captain needs to say something if the FO gets too low.

WILCO737 (MD11F)
airplane

It it's not Boeing, I am not going.

SandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3382 posts, RR: 51
Reply 18, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2546 times:

Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 17):
That is a pretty vague. Even if it is the 1st landing of the FO he shouldn't be so low. And the captain needs to say something if the FO gets too low.

Especially since they touched down way before the threshold, which must not happen whatsoever (or at least that's what we're being taught).

WILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8473 posts, RR: 78
Reply 19, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2519 times:

AIRLINERS.NET CREW
HEAD MODERATOR

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 18):

Especially since they touched down way before the threshold, which must not happen whatsoever (or at least that's what we're being taught).

Well, it is called touchdown zone, because you have to touchdown in there. Not before and not behind it. If it looks like you won't touchdown there a go around is mandatory.

But back to the original topic...

he was pretty low indeed.

WILCO737 (MD11F)
airplane

It it's not Boeing, I am not going.

CAL764 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 366 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2399 times:

I sent an email to the editor of that paper, he responded as follows:

Thanks to everyone who pointed out this video was old. We downgraded it once we realized.

Paul Smith
nzherald.co.nz
09 373 6417

1. Fly to Win 2. Fund Future 3. Reliability 4. Work Together CO: Work Hard, Fly Right...

Top Of Page

Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics: