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SkyWest Inc Buying Stake In Brazilian Airline Trip  
User currently offlineDurangoMac From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 730 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3834 times:

This could be an interesting business decision.

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SAO PAULO, Brazil - A Brazilian newspaper is reporting that St. George-based SkyWest Inc. will buy a 20 percent stake in Brazilian regional carrier Trip Linhas Aereas.
The Estado de S. Paulo newspaper says the purchase is part of a plan by SkyWest to invest in markets outside the United States.

Salt Lake Tribune

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User currently offlineDurangoMac From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 730 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3798 times:

Another article, a few more details.

SkyWest buying stake in Brazil airline


User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3574 times:

After 16 months of negotiations US-based SkyWest decided to buy 20% stake in Brazil's regional airline Trip Airlines seeking to establish presence in the rapidly growing civil aviation market in Brazil.

SkyWest is the world's 4th biggest airline measured by fleet (it has 442 planes) and operates regional flights on behalf of DL and UA. Its regional expertise will certainly fit with Trip model of regional flights. Trip operates accross 64 destinations in Brazil and recently announced an order of Embraer 175 jets.

We can expect competition in the Brazilian civial aviation market to increase with the arrival of Azul (Neelman's JetBlue investment) in Brazil early next year and now with Trip increased investment base and expansion.

More info: http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/...usiness/LA-Brazil-Skywest-Trip.php



Rgs,


User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3455 times:

After this deal, can we expect Trip to increase the orders of Embraer jets?

Rgs,


User currently offlinePhelpsie87 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 498 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3414 times:



Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 2):
After 16 months of negotiations US-based SkyWest decided to buy 20% stake in Brazil's regional airline Trip Airlines seeking to establish presence in the rapidly growing civil aviation market in Brazil.

Initial investment is only $5 Million at 6% ownership actually. OO will increase that level to 20% provided TRIP meets certain financial and operational requirements over the next couple years. At this time, the investment is not likely to exceed 20%.

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 2):
SkyWest is the world's 4th biggest airline measured by fleet (it has 442 planes) and operates regional flights on behalf of DL and UA.

Don't forget about Midwest Express Big grin


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21677 posts, RR: 55
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3400 times:



Quoting Phelpsie87 (Reply 4):
Don't forget about Midwest Express

Not for long.

-Mir



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User currently offlineC010T3 From Brazil, joined Jul 2006, 3711 posts, RR: 19
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3400 times:



Quoting Phelpsie87 (Reply 4):
At this time, the investment is not likely to exceed 20%.

It can't actually. Foreign ownership of Brazilian airlines is limited to 20%.


User currently offlinePhelpsie87 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 498 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3373 times:



Quoting Mir (Reply 5):
Not for long.

Why do you say this Mir?


User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3285 times:



Quoting Phelpsie87 (Reply 4):
Initial investment is only $5 Million at 6% ownership actually. OO will increase that level to 20% provided TRIP meets certain financial and operational requirements over the next couple years. At this time, the investment is not likely to exceed 20%.



Quoting C010T3 (Reply 6):
It can't actually. Foreign ownership of Brazilian airlines is limited to 20%.

There is debate in Brazil to allow foreign ownership of Brazilian airline to increase from 20% to 49%.

Rgs,


User currently offlineJJ8080 From Brazil, joined Aug 2008, 932 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 3173 times:



Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 3):
After this deal, can we expect Trip to increase the orders of Embraer jets?

Well I see space for it, since with such a big partner now they have much more solid, in financial terms... I actully like very much Trip/Total gruoup and their way to do business... If they continue in the same ways, i see a brilliant future for them becoming a major brazilian airline.


Just to add to the threath and complement Hardiwv information, I'm posting Trip's route map I did including some new routes, the upcoming Maringa-CGH service and routes operated in code-share with JJ..

Big version: Width: 1181 Height: 1090 File size: 471kb



100 146 319/20/21 332 722 732/3/4/5/G/W/8/H/9 742/3/4 752/3 762/3 772/W BE2 BET E75 CNJ CR2 D10 F27 F50 ER4 LRJ M11 M80
User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11442 posts, RR: 58
Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3155 times:
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Trip will be moving shortly it's HQ to Belo Horizonte and PLU main hub will be further increased.
And i imagine the funds from SkyWest will be used to pay the advance payment required for the E-Jets.



New York + Rio de Janeiro = One of the best combinations !
User currently offlineJJ8080 From Brazil, joined Aug 2008, 932 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3122 times:

Even TRIP doing a great job with it's ATR fleet, I see a huge space for them to introduce ERJs on the fleet. As now they are Embraer's client, they should try to get some ERJ-145s, even if 2nd hand ones, with leasing negotiations intermediate by Embraer. There are several routes were a ATR-42 does the job better than a jet, although, there are other several ones were a jet would be very welcome, such as CWB-LDB-CGB, PLU-VCP, PLU-UDI-BSB, PLU-SDU and many others.


100 146 319/20/21 332 722 732/3/4/5/G/W/8/H/9 742/3/4 752/3 762/3 772/W BE2 BET E75 CNJ CR2 D10 F27 F50 ER4 LRJ M11 M80
User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Reply 12, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3076 times:



Quoting JJ8080 (Reply 9):
Just to add to the threath and complement Hardiwv information, I'm posting Trip's route map

Thanks for the great route map!

Quoting JJ8080 (Reply 9):
new routes, the upcoming Maringa-CGH service

CGH-MGF will surely be a winner and will be one of the future destinations to be operated with EMBRAER Jets! I still dont understand why TAM pulled out from MGF.

Rgs,


User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11442 posts, RR: 58
Reply 13, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 3061 times:
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Quoting JJ8080 (Reply 11):
Even TRIP doing a great job with it's ATR fleet, I see a huge space for them to introduce ERJs on the fleet. As now they are Embraer's client, they should try to get some ERJ-145s, even if 2nd hand ones, with leasing negotiations intermediate by Embraer.

JJ8080 the problem is that, the ERJ145 isn't so interesting as the E-Jets. And for short legs like the ones Trip flies, the ATR performs better.



New York + Rio de Janeiro = One of the best combinations !
User currently offlineJJ8080 From Brazil, joined Aug 2008, 932 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3054 times:



Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 12):
CGH-MGF will surely be a winner and will be one of the future destinations to be operated with EMBRAER Jets! I still dont understand why TAM pulled out from MGF.

Agreed. Let now wait and see wich ones will be E75 routes... I'd bet on LDB-CGR-CGB, PLU-RAO, PLU-UDI-BSB, CWB-VCP, CWB-LDB....

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 13):
JJ8080 the problem is that, the ERJ145 isn't so interesting as the E-Jets. And for short legs like the ones Trip flies, the ATR performs better.

Agree.. But as I said, they have both ATR better suited routes and ERJ potential better suited routes. Many of the ERJ ones, will in the future be fited with E75s that maybe will be too much capacity... Ideal for them would be a mix of ATR42, ERJ145, ATR72 and E175... Maybe, in the future, E190/195, depending on their business model. Let's wait and see.. I personally can't wait to fly TRIP's E-jets!!



100 146 319/20/21 332 722 732/3/4/5/G/W/8/H/9 742/3/4 752/3 762/3 772/W BE2 BET E75 CNJ CR2 D10 F27 F50 ER4 LRJ M11 M80
User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Reply 15, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3033 times:

Apparently we are heading for a SkyWest and JetBlue competition in Brazil! Very good news as we need some shake up in the domestic market...TAM and GOL products are just too plain and boring!

Quoting JJ8080 (Reply 14):
Agreed. Let now wait and see wich ones will be E75 routes... I'd bet on LDB-CGR-CGB, PLU-RAO, PLU-UDI-BSB, CWB-VCP, CWB-LDB....

Also CGH-MGF.

Quoting JJ8080 (Reply 14):
I personally can't wait to fly TRIP's E-jets!!

Same here. When are they expected to receive the first EMBRAER Jet?

Tks,

[Edited 2008-09-08 07:33:07]

User currently offlineJJ8080 From Brazil, joined Aug 2008, 932 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2988 times:



Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 15):
Also CGH-MGF.

Sure! forgot to think about upcoming ones...

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 15):
When are they expected to receive the first EMBRAER Jet?

Not sure now if it will be 2009 or 2010..



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User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11442 posts, RR: 58
Reply 17, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2965 times:
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Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 15):
Same here. When are they expected to receive the first EMBRAER Jet?

Next year, 2009. However no month given.

Quoting JJ8080 (Reply 16):
Sure! forgot to think about upcoming ones...

Trip also is looking for some routes to Guarulhos International Airport.



New York + Rio de Janeiro = One of the best combinations !
User currently offlineAlias1024 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2777 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2888 times:

Does Trip codeshare with Gol or TAM? I honestly had not heard of this airline before this announcement, and I'm trying to figure out what SKW sees in this.


It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems with just potatoes.
User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Reply 19, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 6 days ago) and read 2871 times:



Quoting JJ8080 (Reply 9):
posting Trip's route map I did including some new routes, the upcoming Maringa-CGH service

TRIP officially launched GRU-MGF daily and GRU-CAC daily starting 22 September.

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 17):
Trip also is looking for some routes to Guarulhos International Airport.

Correct, both MGF and CAC will operate to GRU instead of CGH.

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 17):
Next year, 2009. However no month given.

Thanks.

Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 18):
Does Trip codeshare with Gol or TAM?

Please see reply no. 9 above and the route map shows the routes operated in codeshare with TAM.

Rgs,


User currently offlineAlias1024 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2777 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2840 times:



Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 19):
Please see reply no. 9 above and the route map shows the routes operated in codeshare with TAM.

Thanks, I only saw the other map in this thread. The red routes on the map you posted appear to all be TAM operated. Do you know which routes if any carry a TAM code but are operated by Trip?



It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems with just potatoes.
User currently offlineJJ8080 From Brazil, joined Aug 2008, 932 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2798 times:



Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 19):
TRIP officially launched GRU-MGF daily and GRU-CAC daily starting 22 September.

The information I had is that it would be GRU-MGF-CAC..... Am I missinformed??
Id addition, aff. Oct, they will fly VIX-SSA-NAT, linking thei FEN service with the Southeast with their own aircrafts (till now, they had code-shar with JJ)...



100 146 319/20/21 332 722 732/3/4/5/G/W/8/H/9 742/3/4 752/3 762/3 772/W BE2 BET E75 CNJ CR2 D10 F27 F50 ER4 LRJ M11 M80
User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Reply 22, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2756 times:



Quoting JJ8080 (Reply 21):
The information I had is that it would be GRU-MGF-CAC..... Am I missinformed??

You are correct the flight will operate:

TRIP5508 CAC 11h00 MGF 11h55 GRU 13h30
TRIP5509 GRU 14h10 MGF 15h45 CAC 16h40

Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 20):
Do you know which routes if any carry a TAM code but are operated by Trip?

As far as I know all TRIP-operated routes carry TAM codeshare and are bookable with TAM online.

Rgs,


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