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NWA 742 (N627US) Finally Laid To Rest

Jgarrido From Guam, joined Mar 2007, 335 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 12442 times:

1 year 1 month 10 days after it landed with it's nose gear up, N627US finally gets put out of it's misery.

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TruemanQLD From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 1335 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 12419 times:

Very Sad day... Sad

CuriousFlyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 653 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 12411 times:

Can you give more information, please? What was the issue back then? Was the aircraft still belonging to NWA when this happened?

CrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1614 posts, RR: 42
Reply 3, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 12292 times:

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There was a thread about a passenger video during the landing. http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/read.main/4131766/

Always sad to see planes being torn apart! Sad

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Jgarrido From Guam, joined Mar 2007, 335 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 12255 times:

Quoting CuriousFlyer (Reply 2):

Well it landed with it's nose gear still up. As for the cause, I haven't been able to find anything. The NTSB still only has the preliminary report on it's website.

COSPN From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Oct 2001, 1473 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 12095 times:

Sad to see it go But its was a danger to the Island in a 160 mph Typhoon where would it go ???

RobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3932 posts, RR: 19
Reply 6, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 12002 times:

I thought that this airframe had been moved into the reef for diving practice??

confused

United_fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7157 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 11917 times:

The title is a bit mis-leading....NW still has 2 742's in service for charters. The title should state that the ex-NW 742 in GUM has been scrapped.

I too read that it was going to be a reef. Must have cost too much to strip it out.

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Jgarrido From Guam, joined Mar 2007, 335 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 11549 times:

Quoting COSPN (Reply 5):
Sad to see it go But its was a danger to the Island in a 160 mph Typhoon where would it go ???

Knowing my luck right into our parking lot and on top of my car Sad

Quoting United_fan (Reply 7):

Sorry about the title. I meant for to read generically: "[A] NWA 742 Finally Laid to Rest", rather then a comprehensive "[The Last] NWA 742 Finally Laid to Rest", but it looks like it's too late for me to edit the title now.

As for it being a reef. The only place I heard that rumor was here. One guy here at work thought it would make a great night club ("The Mile High Club" or with Hip-Hop theme "Club Seven Four Seven"). I saw once the discovery channel a program where they sunk a 737 classic to make a reef...that was quite an ordeal. So I don't think the equipment to move a 747 over roads exist on island. Let alone getting it though the roads.

EMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9286 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 11463 times:

Quoting CuriousFlyer (Reply 2):
Can you give more information, please?

What do you mean....? The plane landed in Guam a year or so ago with the nose gear up. Northwest deemed the aircraft damaged beyond economical repair. The plane has finally been scraped.

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Johnclipper From Hong Kong, joined Aug 2005, 765 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 11424 times:

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 9):
The plane has finally been scraped.

Ha Ha! It was scraped when it landed. Now it's scrapped...

Spacecadet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3246 posts, RR: 14
Reply 11, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 8782 times:

Quoting Jgarrido (Reply 4):
Well it landed with it's nose gear still up. As for the cause, I haven't been able to find anything. The NTSB still only has the preliminary report on it's website.

Probably all there will ever be. Wasn't a major incident. Caused two minor injuries on evac. If there are no ramifications for safety industry-wide, they may have determined it wasn't necessary to investigate further.

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Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21453 posts, RR: 24
Reply 12, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 8623 times:

Quoting Jgarrido (Reply 4):
As for the cause, I haven't been able to find anything. The NTSB still only has the preliminary report on it's website.

The NTSB rarely does a full investigation or issue a formal report on minor incidents like that. The airline probably investigated and determined the cause soon after the incident and would have reported the findings to the FAA.

Super80 From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 133 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 6687 times:

Quoting United_fan (Reply 7):
NW still has 2 742's in service for charters.

Will we even see these 2 742s in DELTA Colour ???

Bingo From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 359 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 6466 times:

I remember that. Hard to believe it was only a year ago. Seems like eons ago. I thought they would have had her back in the air 3 weeks later. Heck the Qantas bird with the hole in the side will be flying again in a few weeks. Sounds more like a victim of convenience...RIP

A340Spotter From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1973 posts, RR: 26
Reply 15, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 6350 times:

Quoting Jgarrido (Thread starter):
1 year 1 month 10 days after it landed with it's nose gear up, N627US finally gets put out of it's misery

Quoting Bingo (Reply 14):
I remember that. Hard to believe it was only a year ago. Seems like eons ago.

Because it was...It's actually 3 years and 20 days ago (depending on the day that they started the scrapping). Actual date of the landing gear collapse was 19Aug05 as seen by this photo and subsequent follow-up photo info:

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CodyKDiamond From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 537 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 5230 times:

Poor 742. The loss of a classic. NW could have really done something nice with that plane...donate it somewhere maybe.

UltimateDelta From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1993 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 5136 times:

Quoting Super80 (Reply 13):
Will we even see these 2 742s in DELTA Colour ???

Probably not, but it sure would be neat to.

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CuriousFlyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 653 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 4729 times:

Thanks for the info and links guys, I had never heard of this one...

SSTsomeday From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 1276 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3476 times:

Quoting Bingo (Reply 14):
I remember that. Hard to believe it was only a year ago. Seems like eons ago. I thought they would have had her back in the air 3 weeks later. Heck the Qantas bird with the hole in the side will be flying again in a few weeks. Sounds more like a victim of convenience...RIP

The Qantas 747 was a 400, no? Much more valuable airplane than a 742.

What's confusing is - if it was a write off - then why the picture with a new nose gear, why the paint job, why the 3 year wait? What was the chronology of this A/C, post-accident? Did they fix it up and try to find a buyer, but eventually gave up?

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M404 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2213 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2619 times:

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Possibly the delay was with the insurance carrier. In the meantime, the price of fuel forced the hull value below prior estimates.

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United_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7157 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2425 times:

Quoting SSTsomeday (Reply 19):
then why the picture with a new nose gear

They had to prop it down to get it off the r/w,probably wouldn't retract anymore.

Quoting SSTsomeday (Reply 19):
why the paint job

They painted a bunch of -200's , how were they going to know it was going to do that ?

Quoting SSTsomeday (Reply 19):
why the 3 year wait?

Insurance ? The possibility of a reef ?

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SparkingWave From South Korea, joined Jun 2005, 668 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2413 times:

I think this video will shed some light into the last flight of this aircraft.

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Jgarrido From Guam, joined Mar 2007, 335 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2365 times:

Quoting A340Spotter (Reply 15):
. Actual date of the landing gear collapse was 19Aug05 as seen by this photo and subsequent follow-up photo info:

yah, that was some pretty bad math on my part Sad

Quoting SSTsomeday (Reply 19):
What's confusing is - if it was a write off - then why the picture with a new nose gear, why the paint job, why the 3 year wait? What was the chronology of this A/C, post-accident? Did they fix it up and try to find a buyer, but eventually gave up?

When I arrived here in Nov of 05 it was already striped of its engines and I was told the insides had been mostly gutted. It seems pretty early on they decided it wasn't worth repair.

Spacecadet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3246 posts, RR: 14
Reply 24, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2277 times:

Quoting SSTsomeday (Reply 19):
What's confusing is - if it was a write off - then why the picture with a new nose gear,

It's probably not new. It landed with its nose gear retracted - it didn't collapse. Most likely they just retracted it after lifting the nose.

Anyway, even if it was a new gear, my guess is it's easier and cheaper to just attach a new gear (which can then be unattached and reused later) than it would be to drag the thing around wherever it needs to be via a crane all the time. Obviously this plane sat for a couple years, so they'd probably want that freedom to move it if necessary.

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Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21453 posts, RR: 24
Reply 25, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2100 times:

Quoting United_Fan (Reply 21):
Quoting SSTsomeday (Reply 19):
why the paint job

They painted a bunch of -200's , how were they going to know it was going to do that ?

It was painted in the new livery more than a year and a half before the GUM incident.

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