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NWA 742 (N627US) Finally Laid To Rest  
User currently offlineJgarrido From Guam, joined Mar 2007, 339 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 13408 times:

1 year 1 month 10 days after it landed with it's nose gear up, N627US finally gets put out of it's misery.

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User currently offlineTruemanQLD From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 1529 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 13385 times:

Very Sad day...  Sad  Sad  Sad

User currently offlineCuriousFlyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 693 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 13377 times:

Can you give more information, please? What was the issue back then? Was the aircraft still belonging to NWA when this happened?

User currently offlineCrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1861 posts, RR: 42
Reply 3, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 13258 times:
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There was a thread about a passenger video during the landing. http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/read.main/4131766/

Always sad to see planes being torn apart!  Sad



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User currently offlineJgarrido From Guam, joined Mar 2007, 339 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 13221 times:



Quoting CuriousFlyer (Reply 2):

Well it landed with it's nose gear still up. As for the cause, I haven't been able to find anything. The NTSB still only has the preliminary report on it's website.


User currently offlineCOSPN From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Oct 2001, 1619 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 13061 times:

Sad to see it go But its was a danger to the Island in a 160 mph Typhoon where would it go ???

User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3947 posts, RR: 18
Reply 6, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 12968 times:

 confused 

I thought that this airframe had been moved into the reef for diving practice??

 confused 

R


User currently offlineUnited_fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7485 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 12883 times:

The title is a bit mis-leading....NW still has 2 742's in service for charters. The title should state that the ex-NW 742 in GUM has been scrapped.

I too read that it was going to be a reef. Must have cost too much to strip it out.



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User currently offlineJgarrido From Guam, joined Mar 2007, 339 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 12515 times:



Quoting COSPN (Reply 5):
Sad to see it go But its was a danger to the Island in a 160 mph Typhoon where would it go ???

Knowing my luck right into our parking lot and on top of my car  Sad

Quoting United_fan (Reply 7):

Sorry about the title. I meant for to read generically: "[A] NWA 742 Finally Laid to Rest", rather then a comprehensive "[The Last] NWA 742 Finally Laid to Rest", but it looks like it's too late for me to edit the title now.

As for it being a reef. The only place I heard that rumor was here. One guy here at work thought it would make a great night club ("The Mile High Club" or with Hip-Hop theme "Club Seven Four Seven"). I saw once the discovery channel a program where they sunk a 737 classic to make a reef...that was quite an ordeal. So I don't think the equipment to move a 747 over roads exist on island. Let alone getting it though the roads.


User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 12429 times:



Quoting CuriousFlyer (Reply 2):
Can you give more information, please?

What do you mean....? The plane landed in Guam a year or so ago with the nose gear up. Northwest deemed the aircraft damaged beyond economical repair. The plane has finally been scraped.



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User currently offlineJohnclipper From Hong Kong, joined Aug 2005, 844 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 12390 times:



Quoting EMBQA (Reply 9):
The plane has finally been scraped.

Ha Ha! It was scraped when it landed. Now it's scrapped...


User currently offlineSpacecadet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3624 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 9748 times:



Quoting Jgarrido (Reply 4):
Well it landed with it's nose gear still up. As for the cause, I haven't been able to find anything. The NTSB still only has the preliminary report on it's website.

Probably all there will ever be. Wasn't a major incident. Caused two minor injuries on evac. If there are no ramifications for safety industry-wide, they may have determined it wasn't necessary to investigate further.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25170 posts, RR: 22
Reply 12, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 9589 times:



Quoting Jgarrido (Reply 4):
As for the cause, I haven't been able to find anything. The NTSB still only has the preliminary report on it's website.

The NTSB rarely does a full investigation or issue a formal report on minor incidents like that. The airline probably investigated and determined the cause soon after the incident and would have reported the findings to the FAA.


User currently offlineSuper80 From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 148 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 7653 times:



Quoting United_fan (Reply 7):
NW still has 2 742's in service for charters.

Will we even see these 2 742s in DELTA Colour ???


User currently offlineBingo From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 359 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 7432 times:

I remember that. Hard to believe it was only a year ago. Seems like eons ago. I thought they would have had her back in the air 3 weeks later. Heck the Qantas bird with the hole in the side will be flying again in a few weeks. Sounds more like a victim of convenience...RIP

User currently offlineA340Spotter From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1980 posts, RR: 23
Reply 15, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 7316 times:



Quoting Jgarrido (Thread starter):
1 year 1 month 10 days after it landed with it's nose gear up, N627US finally gets put out of it's misery



Quoting Bingo (Reply 14):
I remember that. Hard to believe it was only a year ago. Seems like eons ago.

Because it was...It's actually 3 years and 20 days ago (depending on the day that they started the scrapping). Actual date of the landing gear collapse was 19Aug05 as seen by this photo and subsequent follow-up photo info:


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User currently offlineCodyKDiamond From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 537 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 6196 times:

Poor 742. The loss of a classic. NW could have really done something nice with that plane...donate it somewhere maybe.

User currently offlineUltimateDelta From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 2118 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 6102 times:



Quoting Super80 (Reply 13):
Will we even see these 2 742s in DELTA Colour ???

Probably not, but it sure would be neat to.



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User currently offlineCuriousFlyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 693 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5695 times:

Thanks for the info and links guys, I had never heard of this one...

User currently offlineSSTsomeday From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 1276 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4442 times:



Quoting Bingo (Reply 14):
I remember that. Hard to believe it was only a year ago. Seems like eons ago. I thought they would have had her back in the air 3 weeks later. Heck the Qantas bird with the hole in the side will be flying again in a few weeks. Sounds more like a victim of convenience...RIP

The Qantas 747 was a 400, no? Much more valuable airplane than a 742.

What's confusing is - if it was a write off - then why the picture with a new nose gear, why the paint job, why the 3 year wait? What was the chronology of this A/C, post-accident? Did they fix it up and try to find a buyer, but eventually gave up?



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User currently offlineM404 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2226 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 3585 times:
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Possibly the delay was with the insurance carrier. In the meantime, the price of fuel forced the hull value below prior estimates.


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User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7485 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3391 times:



Quoting SSTsomeday (Reply 19):
then why the picture with a new nose gear

They had to prop it down to get it off the r/w,probably wouldn't retract anymore.

Quoting SSTsomeday (Reply 19):
why the paint job

They painted a bunch of -200's , how were they going to know it was going to do that ?

Quoting SSTsomeday (Reply 19):
why the 3 year wait?

Insurance ? The possibility of a reef ?



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User currently offlineSparkingWave From South Korea, joined Jun 2005, 671 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3379 times:

I think this video will shed some light into the last flight of this aircraft.




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User currently offlineJgarrido From Guam, joined Mar 2007, 339 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3331 times:



Quoting A340Spotter (Reply 15):
. Actual date of the landing gear collapse was 19Aug05 as seen by this photo and subsequent follow-up photo info:

yah, that was some pretty bad math on my part  Sad

Quoting SSTsomeday (Reply 19):
What's confusing is - if it was a write off - then why the picture with a new nose gear, why the paint job, why the 3 year wait? What was the chronology of this A/C, post-accident? Did they fix it up and try to find a buyer, but eventually gave up?

When I arrived here in Nov of 05 it was already striped of its engines and I was told the insides had been mostly gutted. It seems pretty early on they decided it wasn't worth repair.


User currently offlineSpacecadet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3624 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3243 times:



Quoting SSTsomeday (Reply 19):
What's confusing is - if it was a write off - then why the picture with a new nose gear,

It's probably not new. It landed with its nose gear retracted - it didn't collapse. Most likely they just retracted it after lifting the nose.

Anyway, even if it was a new gear, my guess is it's easier and cheaper to just attach a new gear (which can then be unattached and reused later) than it would be to drag the thing around wherever it needs to be via a crane all the time. Obviously this plane sat for a couple years, so they'd probably want that freedom to move it if necessary.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25170 posts, RR: 22
Reply 25, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3066 times:



Quoting United_Fan (Reply 21):
Quoting SSTsomeday (Reply 19):
why the paint job

They painted a bunch of -200's , how were they going to know it was going to do that ?

It was painted in the new livery more than a year and a half before the GUM incident.


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