VV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 8650 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2037 times:
I have just been to the BA site and looked at a return trip between LHR and JFK, out on 22 September, returning on 29 September. I was quoted a fare of £298.90. Towards the end of the booking process it gave me a breakdown of this cost in small type.
The small type said that the return fare was £47.00. Taxes, surcharges etc was £251.90. The only detail on these "extras" that I could find was a BA "Security and Insurance Surcharge" of £2.50 and a BA "Fuel Surcharge" of £78.00. I was also told that if I paid by credit card (but not debit card) there would be an extra handling charge of £4.00 not included in the fare.
I assume that all the charges excepting the Security and Insurance Surcharge, the Fuel Surcharge and the "optional" Credit Card Charge were either government taxes or surcharges or airport surcharges, but I am sure others will correct me if this is wrong.
The reason for giving the above detail is because it seems to me that what you discovered is not unusual but the norm. It certainly shows why the Long haul LCCs like Zoom and Oasis Hong Kong went to the wall. How do you significantly undercut a base fare of £47.00 for LHR to JFK return?
TGV From France, joined Dec 2004, 876 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2031 times:
Quoting VV701 (Reply 2): The small type said that the return fare was £47.00. Taxes, surcharges etc was £251.90. The only detail on these "extras" that I could find was a BA "Security and Insurance Surcharge" of £2.50 and a BA "Fuel Surcharge" of £78.00.
Here is the detail, thanks to ITASoftware (I found 299.20, not 298.20)
Fare (A1): BA LONNYC OXRCUK9 fare (rules) £23.50
Fare (A2): BA NYCLON OXRCUK9 fare (rules) £23.50
Tax: USDA APHIS Fee $5.00
Tax: US Immigration Fee $7.00
Tax: US Customs Fee $5.50
Tax: United Kingdom Air Passengers Duty £40.00
Tax: United Kingdom Passenger Service Charge £19.70
Tax: US International Arrival Tax $15.40
Tax: BA YQ surcharge £161.00
Tax: US International Departure Tax $15.40
Tax: US September 11th Security Fee $2.50
Tax: US Passenger Facility Charge $4.50
Total for 1 adult passenger: £299.20
So the BA fare is indeed £ 47.00 but the BA YQ surcharge is £161.00, and not £78...
For me the BA fare is £ 208, as airlines will never convince me the fuel should not be included in their fares. So 70% fare and 30% taxes.
Then there are £ 59.7 "real" taxes on the GB side and USD 55.3 (£ 31.5) "real" taxes on the US side.
Avoid 777 with 3-4-3 config in Y ! They are real sardine cans. (AF/KL for example)