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August 2008 Orders And Deliveries  
User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12887 posts, RR: 46
Posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2933 times:
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Here is a summary of Airbus and Boeing orders and deliveries for August 2008.

Gross Orders for month (YTD)
Airbus - 0 (754)
Boeing - 38 (584)

Cancellations for month (YTD)
Airbus - 3 (46)
Boeing - 1 (2)

Net Orders for month (YTD)
Airbus - -3 (708)
Boeing - 37 (582)

Deliveries for month (YTD)
Airbus - 29 (315)
Boeing - 36 (313)

Backlog
Airbus - 3,814
Boeing - 3,696


Gross order Details for month (YTD)
Airbus:
A320 - 0 (460)
A330 - 0 (136)
A350 - 0 (155)
A380 - 0 (3)

Boeing:
737 - 32 (453)
747 - 0 (2)
767 - 2 (2)
777 - 4 (48)
787 - 0 (79)

Delivery details for month (YTD)
Airbus:
A320 - 22 (257)
A330 - 7 (47)
A340 - 0 (6)
A380 - 0 (5)

Boeing:
737 - 29 (244)
747 - 1 (12)
767 - 1 (8)
777 - 5 (49)

Backlog Details
Airbus:
A320 - 2,703
A330 - 441
A340 - 32
A350 - 452
A380 - 186

Boeing:
737 - 2,284
747 - 115
767 - 46
777 - 356
787 - 895


Notes
Airbus failed to record a single order in August!
Boeing notched up their first 787 cancellation and first 767 order of the year.


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User currently offlineKappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 17
Reply 1, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2881 times:



Quoting Scbriml (Thread starter):
Airbus failed to record a single order in August!

How long has it been since that happened last? Must be a few years! Maybe the downturn is now slowly starting to hit the OEM's. Could also be an after Farnborough fluke of course... we'll have to wait and see...



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User currently offlineFrigatebird From Netherlands, joined Jun 2008, 1715 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2698 times:



Quoting Scbriml (Thread starter):
Airbus failed to record a single order in August!

Well, it was holiday in Europa last month  Smile And, after Le Bourget or Farnborough, Airbus usually has some quiet months. Things will pick up a bit in Q4, although it's gonna be tough to reach 1000+ orders this year.



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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21583 posts, RR: 59
Reply 3, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2683 times:

It's been a tough, tough summer. Even though airlines need newer planes, most were worried about BK and not buying them.

If oil stays at $100-105 or lower, expect some fall orders.



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User currently offlineScouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3402 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2439 times:



Quoting Frigatebird (Reply 2):
Things will pick up a bit in Q4, although it's gonna be tough to reach 1000+ orders this year.

There's still a couple of quite large pendings for Airbus - EY and the 60 extra wides for EK that should help the end of year total.

Does anyone know what the 3 cancellations were?


User currently offlineMoo From Falkland Islands, joined May 2007, 4089 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2400 times:



Quoting Scouseflyer (Reply 4):
60 extra wides for EK that should help the end of year total.

60? I know they ordered an additional 30 A350XWBs, wheres the other 30 coming from?


User currently offlineScouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3402 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2373 times:



Quoting Moo (Reply 5):
60? I know they ordered an additional 30 A350XWBs, wheres the other 30 coming from?

http://www.airbus.com/en/presscentre...s/08_07_28_emirates_a350_a330.html

They signed a LoI for 30 A330s too - big numbers!


User currently offlineMoo From Falkland Islands, joined May 2007, 4089 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2351 times:



Quoting Scouseflyer (Reply 6):
They signed a LoI for 30 A330s too - big numbers!

Ahh, cheers! That slipped my mind  Smile


User currently offlineAA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3437 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2292 times:

I suspect Airbus will see some more order A330 orders when the delay from the strike is assessed fully. Can we expect any more A380 orders this year?

I have some questions regarding the 747 and A380 which I think pertain somewhat to this thread.

Quoting Scbriml (Thread starter):
747 - 115



Quoting Scbriml (Thread starter):
A380 - 186

What are the current, and expected 'normal' production rates of both the A380 and 747/748?
If the rate was about 2 per month, the 747 would have almost 5 years of production and the A380 would have 7 3/4 years of production. Not very much for either manufacturer and the rate at which orders seem to be trickling in is not very reassuring.

Quoting Scbriml (Thread starter):
767 - 2 (2)

I thought the 767 line was closing? I didn't know Boeing was still taking orders...

AA1818



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User currently offlineScouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3402 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2259 times:



Quoting AA1818 (Reply 8):
I thought the 767 line was closing? I didn't know Boeing was still taking orders...

They'll keep building it whilst people order it - it's been trickling along for a while hoping for the tanker order - so it'll be interesting as to what happens now that this has been delayed for probably a year.

As for possible A380 orders, there's a long rumoured order from ANA that's a strong possibility (10 I think?) and other than that fainter possibilities of the confirmation of the Groupo Marsans LoI from last year (4) and maybe a topup for LH. You never know though EK will probably order another 30!


User currently offlineAA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3437 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2228 times:



Quoting Scouseflyer (Reply 9):
it's been trickling along for a while hoping for the tanker order - so it'll be interesting as to what happens now that this has been delayed for probably a year.

I thought it was decided that Airbus/ North Grumman were the successful bidders? I know Boeing appealled, but I just assumed it would stay as is. It's taken what 4 years so far since the first round of tainted bidding??- I guess the US doesn't really need/ want new tankers!!

Quoting Scouseflyer (Reply 9):
They'll keep building it whilst people order it

Makes sense I guess especially since the 787 seems to be indefinitely delayed.

Quoting Scouseflyer (Reply 9):
You never know though EK will probably order another 30!

EK is perhaps the most likely of any carrier to order more despite accounting for about 30% of the orders already!! hehehe

AA1818



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User currently offlineScouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3402 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2198 times:



Quoting AA1818 (Reply 10):
I thought it was decided that Airbus/ North Grumman were the successful bidders? I know Boeing appealled, but I just assumed it would stay as is. It's taken what 4 years so far since the first round of tainted bidding??- I guess the US doesn't really need/ want new tankers!!

There's loads of threads with more detail in the Millitary Av and Spac section but to summarise:

NG / EADS won and started to build the first of the test planes
Boeing squealed and protested on 100 (!) counts
The US Gov panel upheld 7 of Boeings complaints (process not being exactly fair)
The contest was reopened with new tenders requested by October this year
The contest was then cancelled as a decision was unlikely to be made before the change in President (it was bottled in my opinion......)

Currently no tanker order for either bidder!


User currently offlineAA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3437 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2136 times:



Quoting Scouseflyer (Reply 11):

There's loads of threads with more detail in the Millitary Av and Spac section but to summarise:

NG / EADS won and started to build the first of the test planes
Boeing squealed and protested on 100 (!) counts
The US Gov panel upheld 7 of Boeings complaints (process not being exactly fair)
The contest was reopened with new tenders requested by October this year
The contest was then cancelled as a decision was unlikely to be made before the change in President (it was bottled in my opinion......)

Currently no tanker order for either bidder!

Thanks so much for that update. I'm the offerings for both sides of this are about equal in ability, but I do hope we can add the hundereds of 767s (or 777s) to Boeing's order count for next year!

AA1818

AA1818



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