Sargek From United States, joined May 2007, 13 posts, RR: 0 Posted (10 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 8713 times:
Was on Qatar flight 52 from IAD to DOH when suddenly we made a landing at CYQX (Gander) A long shot here, but has anyonwe heard what happened to our plane. The rumor mill was we lost an enginge.
RobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3181 posts, RR: 10 Reply 3, posted (10 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 8669 times:
Dunno but looks like this happened on Sat night/Sun morning? QTR52 shows IAD-YQX type B773 reg A7-BAA arriving just after midnight local time. Thus far no departure out of Gander so presumably it's still there.
Late Sunday night an A330 reg A7-ACA arrived from Heathrow as QTR3051 and departed a few hours later back to Heathrow as QTR3052.
Sargek From United States, joined May 2007, 13 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (10 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 8631 times:
We came in kinda fast with less than the usual flap setting it seemed. There really was little way to tell as far as noise. We dumped a bunch of fuel before landing. Besides that I thought it might be an hydraulic problem.
CHRISBA777ER From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 4795 posts, RR: 59 Reply 5, posted (10 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 8603 times:
I would say, having been on 30+ 77W flights in my lifetime, that you'd know about it when one of those big GE90s stops turning if you are in the cheap seats - its a hell of a noise down the back.
Sargek From United States, joined May 2007, 13 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (10 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 8478 times:
By the way we were treated fairly well. Qatar put us up in Gander till about 11 pm. This happened around 3 am NST. We left on a A330 about 2 am to LHR and on. They fed us a couple of times. Not all bad.
QatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 902 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (10 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 8233 times:
Seems like todays QR 052's flight will be operated by an A340-600! Tommrow shows regular scheduling though. For today, however, there will not be an A340-600 service to LHR, just A330-200/300.
This is not always the case. Even if the passengers did hear a PA announcement telling them that they are diverting due to technical (or other) problems, I doubt that the pilot would go into too much detail about what exactly was wrong.
CHRISBA777ER From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 4795 posts, RR: 59 Reply 11, posted (10 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5606 times:
Quoting LHRspotter (Reply 10): Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 1):
Surely if you were on it, you'd have known?
This is not always the case. Even if the passengers did hear a PA announcement telling them that they are diverting due to technical (or other) problems, I doubt that the pilot would go into too much detail about what exactly was wrong.
Well you get some idea - if the landing gear doors are still down when she is on the stand its a hydraulic problem, if the cargo doors are open and fire crews are sniffing around there then it was a fire warning. If the masks dropped and/or a rapid descent then it was a pressurisation problem. If you can hear yourself think/speak in the cabin then at least one of the engines has been shut down. If there are medical staff on board once you land it was a medical diversion. If there was no obvious sign then it was probably an electrical problem or a fuel/oil leak.
Medical issues and fire warnings aside, it is quite rare to divert unless its an IFSD on the 77W.
CHRISBA777ER From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 4795 posts, RR: 59 Reply 13, posted (10 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4123 times:
Quoting CastropRauxel (Reply 12): Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 8):
Seems like todays QR 052's flight will be operated by an A340-600
Oh wow, I didn't know QR has A346! where does it fly to? would love to be on that one!
They do and they are absolutely STUNNING inside. They fly to LHR, CDG and HKG for three. I've been on golf alpha LHR-DOH in C class about a year ago and it was the best flight of my life.
AirNZ From United Kingdom (Northern Ireland), joined Feb 2005, 2448 posts, RR: 7 Reply 14, posted (10 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3889 times:
Quoting VikingA346 (Reply 2): I would imagine you would notice an engine out on a twin jet???
Not to nitpick or anything, but how exactly would you expect the average passenger to immediately notice an engine out? Yes, noise might play a factor, but really only if sitting on that particular side of the aircraft. No offence, but I would venture that if yourself were on say, the starboard side and the port engine stopped turning, you wouldn't notice too quickly.
Andrew From Singapore, joined Dec 1999, 369 posts, RR: 1 Reply 15, posted (10 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3516 times:
Quoting Sargek (Reply 4): We came in kinda fast with less than the usual flap setting it seemed. There really was little way to tell as far as noise. We dumped a bunch of fuel before landing. Besides that I thought it might be an hydraulic problem.
If it was an engine failure, standard Boeing procedure for a single-engine landing on the B777 is for Flap 20, and a higher V(ref) landing speed which will be 15-20 knots above the normal Flap 30 landing speed.
AsoRock From Nigeria, joined May 2006, 178 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (10 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2129 times:
My brother was on the diverted flight (into Gander) on the way to Doha. He says he was informed the problem was an engine failure and that it was one hard landing.... He also says the air frame had just been delivered to Qatar Airways 7 days prior to this incident! As someone said, an A330 came to pick up the pax from London Heathrow back to LHR where they refueled and continued to Doha. All in all, a delay of more than 36 hours !!!
CPDC10-30 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 4647 posts, RR: 32 Reply 19, posted (10 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2087 times:
Quoting LHRspotter (Reply 10): This is not always the case. Even if the passengers did hear a PA announcement telling them that they are diverting due to technical (or other) problems, I doubt that the pilot would go into too much detail about what exactly was wrong
I've only ever been one one flight that has had a diversion, but that definetley was not the case. It was a TS A310-300 routing YYZ-MAN, and we diverted to YUL due to navigational system failures. The landing was quite seriously overweight (as the a/c had fuel for 8+ hours and full pax load) and fast. However the Capt came on the PA to explain the full situation and the reason for diverting. It was becoming obvious that something was wrong because Airshow was on, showing the aircraft slowed to about 650 km/h and descended to 25,000 ft after climbing to FL310 initially
To be fair, an engine shutdown is much more serious than an avionics issue, and the flight crew must have been busy. But still - a few words would suffice to put minds somewhat at ease. If I was on that flight it would be seriously unnerving to start changing route and descending without a word.
Spotter From Canada, joined Nov 2001, 79 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (10 months 15 hours ago) and read 1618 times:
Yes I heard it was an engine failure, we sent a mechanic/mechanics out there to assist, haven't heard much except it has something to do with the turbine.
JR
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