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Qatar Airways B777-300ER (QR052) Diverts to Gander  
User currently offlineSargek From United States of America, joined May 2007, 14 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 14878 times:

Was on Qatar flight 52 from IAD to DOH when suddenly we made a landing at CYQX (Gander) A long shot here, but has anyonwe heard what happened to our plane. The rumor mill was we lost an enginge.

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User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 1, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 14846 times:

Surely if you were on it, you'd have known?


What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineVikingA346 From Sweden, joined Oct 2006, 515 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 14833 times:

If the pilot's didn't tell you after landing, then that's pretty shitty..... I would imagine you would notice an engine out on a twin jet???

Did they fix the problem and continue or were you rerouted/put in a hotel??



...you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been and there you shall return
User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3958 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 14834 times:

Dunno but looks like this happened on Sat night/Sun morning? QTR52 shows IAD-YQX type B773 reg A7-BAA arriving just after midnight local time. Thus far no departure out of Gander so presumably it's still there.

Late Sunday night an A330 reg A7-ACA arrived from Heathrow as QTR3051 and departed a few hours later back to Heathrow as QTR3052.

 confused 

R


User currently offlineSargek From United States of America, joined May 2007, 14 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 14796 times:

We came in kinda fast with less than the usual flap setting it seemed. There really was little way to tell as far as noise. We dumped a bunch of fuel before landing. Besides that I thought it might be an hydraulic problem.

User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 5, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 14768 times:

I would say, having been on 30+ 77W flights in my lifetime, that you'd know about it when one of those big GE90s stops turning if you are in the cheap seats - its a hell of a noise down the back.

I take it you were traveling in C/F then.

Another IFSD for the GE90 maybe?



What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineVikingA346 From Sweden, joined Oct 2006, 515 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 14713 times:

I thought IFSD's only happened on AF's 777s :-X


...you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been and there you shall return
User currently offlineSargek From United States of America, joined May 2007, 14 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 14643 times:

By the way we were treated fairly well. Qatar put us up in Gander till about 11 pm. This happened around 3 am NST. We left on a A330 about 2 am to LHR and on. They fed us a couple of times. Not all bad.

User currently onlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1883 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 14398 times:

Seems like todays QR 052's flight will be operated by an A340-600! Tommrow shows regular scheduling though. For today, however, there will not be an A340-600 service to LHR, just A330-200/300.

[Edited 2008-09-10 11:00:40]


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User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3958 posts, RR: 18
Reply 9, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 14305 times:



Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 8):
Seems like todays QR 052's flight will be operated by an A340-600!

Yes. A7-AGB today.

R


User currently offlineLHRspotter From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2006, 182 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 11831 times:



Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 1):
Surely if you were on it, you'd have known?

This is not always the case. Even if the passengers did hear a PA announcement telling them that they are diverting due to technical (or other) problems, I doubt that the pilot would go into too much detail about what exactly was wrong.


User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 11, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 11771 times:



Quoting LHRspotter (Reply 10):
Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 1):
Surely if you were on it, you'd have known?

This is not always the case. Even if the passengers did hear a PA announcement telling them that they are diverting due to technical (or other) problems, I doubt that the pilot would go into too much detail about what exactly was wrong.

Well you get some idea - if the landing gear doors are still down when she is on the stand its a hydraulic problem, if the cargo doors are open and fire crews are sniffing around there then it was a fire warning. If the masks dropped and/or a rapid descent then it was a pressurisation problem. If you can hear yourself think/speak in the cabin then at least one of the engines has been shut down. If there are medical staff on board once you land it was a medical diversion. If there was no obvious sign then it was probably an electrical problem or a fuel/oil leak.

Medical issues and fire warnings aside, it is quite rare to divert unless its an IFSD on the 77W.

Interested to see what the problem was.



What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineCastropRauxel From Germany, joined Sep 2008, 467 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 11264 times:



Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 8):
Seems like todays QR 052's flight will be operated by an A340-600

Oh wow, I didn't know QR has A346! where does it fly to? would love to be on that one!


User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 13, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 10288 times:



Quoting CastropRauxel (Reply 12):
Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 8):
Seems like todays QR 052's flight will be operated by an A340-600

Oh wow, I didn't know QR has A346! where does it fly to? would love to be on that one!

They do and they are absolutely STUNNING inside. They fly to LHR, CDG and HKG for three. I've been on golf alpha LHR-DOH in C class about a year ago and it was the best flight of my life.



What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineAirNZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 10054 times:



Quoting VikingA346 (Reply 2):
I would imagine you would notice an engine out on a twin jet???

Not to nitpick or anything, but how exactly would you expect the average passenger to immediately notice an engine out? Yes, noise might play a factor, but really only if sitting on that particular side of the aircraft. No offence, but I would venture that if yourself were on say, the starboard side and the port engine stopped turning, you wouldn't notice too quickly.


User currently offlineAndrew From Singapore, joined Dec 1999, 369 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 9681 times:



Quoting Sargek (Reply 4):
We came in kinda fast with less than the usual flap setting it seemed. There really was little way to tell as far as noise. We dumped a bunch of fuel before landing. Besides that I thought it might be an hydraulic problem.

If it was an engine failure, standard Boeing procedure for a single-engine landing on the B777 is for Flap 20, and a higher V(ref) landing speed which will be 15-20 knots above the normal Flap 30 landing speed.


User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4917 posts, RR: 15
Reply 16, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 9534 times:

So is the 77W still in Gander? IF it is it's got to be having a hell of a knock on effect at QR.

YOWza



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User currently offlineTonystan From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 1447 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 9120 times:



Quoting AirNZ (Reply 14):
Not to nitpick or anything, but how exactly would you expect the average passenger to immediately notice an engine out?

0h im sure you will know....you will never forget that unique sound of an engine winding down at 500mph!!!

Quoting YOWza (Reply 16):
So is the 77W still in Gander? IF it is it's got to be having a hell of a knock on effect at QR.

Im sure not as much as EK's A380 being out of action! LOL!



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User currently offlineAsoRock From Bahrain, joined May 2006, 322 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 8294 times:

My brother was on the diverted flight (into Gander) on the way to Doha. He says he was informed the problem was an engine failure and that it was one hard landing.... He also says the air frame had just been delivered to Qatar Airways 7 days prior to this incident! As someone said, an A330 came to pick up the pax from London Heathrow back to LHR where they refueled and continued to Doha. All in all, a delay of more than 36 hours !!!

User currently offlineCPDC10-30 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 4810 posts, RR: 23
Reply 19, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 8252 times:



Quoting LHRspotter (Reply 10):
This is not always the case. Even if the passengers did hear a PA announcement telling them that they are diverting due to technical (or other) problems, I doubt that the pilot would go into too much detail about what exactly was wrong

I've only ever been one one flight that has had a diversion, but that definetley was not the case. It was a TS A310-300 routing YYZ-MAN, and we diverted to YUL due to navigational system failures. The landing was quite seriously overweight (as the a/c had fuel for 8+ hours and full pax load) and fast. However the Capt came on the PA to explain the full situation and the reason for diverting. It was becoming obvious that something was wrong because Airshow was on, showing the aircraft slowed to about 650 km/h and descended to 25,000 ft after climbing to FL310 initially  Smile

To be fair, an engine shutdown is much more serious than an avionics issue, and the flight crew must have been busy. But still - a few words would suffice to put minds somewhat at ease. If I was on that flight it would be seriously unnerving to start changing route and descending without a word.


User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3958 posts, RR: 18
Reply 20, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 8174 times:



Quoting AsoRock (Reply 18):
He also says the air frame had just been delivered to Qatar Airways 7 days prior to this incident!

Wrong. A7-BAC was operating QTR401 between Amman and Doha on the day of the incident. Aircraft involved was A7-BAA as per originally stated.

I heard that an AN-124 was due in today with a new engine ??

R


User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12594 posts, RR: 34
Reply 21, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 8132 times:

According to PPRUNE, EGT went over limits.

User currently offlineSpotter From Canada, joined Nov 2001, 86 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 7783 times:

Yes I heard it was an engine failure, we sent a mechanic/mechanics out there to assist, haven't heard much except it has something to do with the turbine.
JR


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