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Swiss Aviation Thread 18  
User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5568 posts, RR: 36
Posted (6 years 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 28756 times:

The old: Hop Suisse/Schwiiz/Svizzera- Aviation Thread 17

Not news but nevertheless interesting. Despite the difficult times in aviation SWISS is still desperately looking for enough cockpit crew. The situation will only get better till the end of 2009 when 150 new pilots will join the airline.
I think you are meant with this Sandro (SandroZRH). Good luck with your training.
Here is the article (in German): Akuter Pilotenmangel bei Swiss

[Edited 2008-09-11 03:46:03]

[Edited 2008-09-11 03:48:32]

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User currently offlineViasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1880 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 28654 times:

Comlux has a new division in Malta: Comlux Aviation Malta.

The only plane at the moment is the former HB-IPO (ACJ): http://www.ch-aviation.ch/aircraft.php?search=set&airline=CXM&al_op=1


User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2122 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 28619 times:



Quoting ZRH (Thread starter):
Not news but nevertheless interesting. Despite the difficult times in aviation SWISS is still desperately looking for enough cockpit crew. The situation will only get better till the end of 2009 when 150 new pilots will join the airline.
I think you are meant with this Sandro (SandroZRH). Good luck with your training.
Here is the article (in German): Akuter Pilotenmangel bei Swiss

In the cabin crew segment it doesn^t look better. Well if SWISS manges to hire enough pilots by 2009 the fleet can be expanded again.

How does the situation with SWISS European look like, are they able to hire a sginificant amount of pilots for them as well as the situation looks there even worse than for Swiss Itnernational Air Lines and their fleet can't be fully utilised?


User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 week 5 days ago) and read 28474 times:

Was browsing MEA's schedule and noticed that they are now operating to GVA 4x weekly on a year-round basis and not just during the summer. Previously, the rest of the year the service operated 3x weekly.

GVA has historically been a very strong route for MEA.

I expect MEA to resume ZRH in a couple of years as it takes delivery of six new A320s starting next year.



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineSandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3428 posts, RR: 50
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 week 5 days ago) and read 28468 times:

Thanks Phil for starting a new thread, it was long overdue!

Quoting ZRH" class=quote target=_blank>ZRH (Thread starter):
Despite the difficult times in aviation SWISS is still desperately looking for enough cockpit crew

Yes, the situation seems to get worse by the day and certainly not better the closer year end approaches.

Quoting ZRH" class=quote target=_blank>ZRH (Thread starter):
I think you are meant with this Sandro (SandroZRH). Good luck with your training.

Thanks!

Quoting BA (Reply 3):
I expect MEA to resume ZRH in a couple of years as it takes delivery of six new A320s starting next year.

That would be sweet and it might happen seeing as RJ has been successfully operating to ZRH for years.


User currently offlineSr176 From Switzerland, joined Feb 2001, 409 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 28430 times:

True, RJ is doing well, however there are bunch of tour groups visiting Jordan that fill these flights. Will MEA be equally successful ? I hope so.
With MS entering *A I hope at least to see them again in ZRH.


User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 28425 times:



Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 4):
That would be sweet and it might happen seeing as RJ has been successfully operating to ZRH for years.

MEA cut ZRH back in 1998 along with a dozen other destinations after reporting a massive $87 million loss in 1997. Back then, MEA was a very structurally inefficient and overstaffed airline having come out of the 15-year Lebanese civil war.

Today, MEA is a completely different airline that is reporting nice profits. It could make a number of previously operated destinations profitable again.



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineLsgg From Switzerland, joined Mar 2005, 577 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 28348 times:

Bad times for BSL :

According to Air&Cosmos N°2138, EuroAirport is suffering of a 1 % traffic decrease for the first half of the year, regarding the same part of the last year.
Moreover it's said that U2/DS is going to temporally close his base in BSL. Sad news !  

[Edited 2008-09-13 01:50:53]


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User currently offlineInfodesk From Switzerland, joined May 2006, 1459 posts, RR: 33
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 28302 times:



Quoting Lsgg (Reply 7):
Moreover it's said that U2/DS is going to temporally close his base in BSL. Sad news !

Where did you hear this? I booked flights BSL-LPL for December and then discovered they were no longer available for booking. After many e-mails I was eventually given a refund and told there was a 99% chance the route won't operate from Nov 3rd onwards, but find it hard to believe this applies to all routes.....they've only just announced new route LGW-BSL and increased frequency to AMS, haven't they?



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User currently offlineSandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3428 posts, RR: 50
Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 28289 times:



Quoting Lsgg (Reply 7):
Moreover it's said that U2/DS is going to temporally close his base in BSL. Sad news !

what!?! Where did you hear that?I have difficulties believing that, but if true it would be a major blow for BSL (and a major win for LX?  Wink ).

I do know that U2 is having problems financially, but I thought BSL (and GVA) were two of their better perfoming bases.


User currently offlineLsgg From Switzerland, joined Mar 2005, 577 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 28250 times:

I'm also struggling to believe such a news, but it comes from Air&Cosmos, the reference in term of French aviation news...


Swissair forever !
User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5568 posts, RR: 36
Reply 11, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 28252 times:

I heard something similar or do I confuse it with Ryanair? They have a conflict with EAP about taxes and threat to close all BSL flights?

User currently offlineCX288 From Germany, joined Jan 2008, 142 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 28236 times:



Quoting Sr176 (Reply 5):
With MS entering *A I hope at least to see them again in ZRH.

MEA ist not entering Star Alliance but will rather join SkyTeam, sponsored by Air France

http://www.skyteam.com/EN/aboutSkyteam/pressCenter/pr011606.jsp


User currently offlineSandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3428 posts, RR: 50
Reply 13, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 28224 times:



Quoting ZRH (Reply 11):
I heard something similar or do I confuse it with Ryanair? They have a conflict with EAP about taxes and threat to close all BSL flights?

That was Ryanair who had the dispute over the taxes.

Quoting CX288 (Reply 12):
MEA ist not entering Star Alliance but will rather join SkyTeam, sponsored by Air France

He was talking about MS, Egyptair.


User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5568 posts, RR: 36
Reply 14, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 28222 times:



Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 13):
That was Ryanair who had the dispute over the taxes

Ok thanks. In this case it would be very strange if EasyJet cancelled all its flights out of BSL.


User currently offlineSandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3428 posts, RR: 50
Reply 15, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 28213 times:



Quoting ZRH (Reply 14):
Ok thanks. In this case it would be very strange if EasyJet cancelled all its flights out of BSL.

Yes indeed. Where's Thomas when you need him?  Wink I'm sure he knows more than we do.


User currently offlineSaab2000 From Switzerland, joined Jun 2001, 1610 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 28195 times:

They are looking for pilots? And would not help me with my Aufenhaltsbewilligung! Hmmm.....

I want to work there. They need pilots. Seems pretty simple to me. But I was told that they would not help me get the required Permit C, which I used to have.


 banghead 



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User currently offline330lover From Belgium, joined Jul 2008, 589 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 28157 times:

@ CX288, just for clarification:
you're right, MEA is not looking at *A.
Although, code MS stands for Egyptair. MEA is ME if I'm not mistaken.



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User currently offlineSaab2000 From Switzerland, joined Jun 2001, 1610 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 28144 times:

When I worked for Jet Aviation Handling AG at ZRH MEA used to come sometimes. Once a week I think in the late 90s. On a Boeing 707. That was awesome! I loved seeing those classics deep into the 1990s!


smrtrthnu
User currently offlineCX288 From Germany, joined Jan 2008, 142 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 28140 times:



Quoting 330lover (Reply 17):
@ CX288, just for clarification:
you're right, MEA is not looking at *A.
Although, code MS stands for Egyptair. MEA is ME if I'm not mistaken.

My apologies, I mixed it up as earlier comments were talking about MEA and their services to Switzerland


User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 20, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 28078 times:



Quoting 330lover (Reply 17):
Although, code MS stands for Egyptair. MEA is ME if I'm not mistaken.

Correct.  Smile

Quoting Saab2000 (Reply 18):
When I worked for Jet Aviation Handling AG at ZRH MEA used to come sometimes. Once a week I think in the late 90s. On a Boeing 707. That was awesome! I loved seeing those classics deep into the 1990s!

ZRH was served with 707s and 720s up until the mid-90's when A310s took over the route. MEA retired its 720s in 1995 although the 707s weren't all retired until the end of 1997 after they received their first A320s and A321s.

Before being cut, ZRH was served 2x weekly on A310s although they also flew in A320/A321s after they received them in 1997. For much of the 90's, it was a 1x weekly service as you mentioned.

Here are a few shots of MEA A310s, A320s, and A321s in ZRH during the mid-to-late 90's:

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User currently offlineAviationMaster From Switzerland, joined Oct 1999, 2481 posts, RR: 34
Reply 21, posted (6 years 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 27925 times:

The Patrouille Suisse is on the verge of dissappearing due to lack of funds and the upcoming retirement of the F-5 TIgers.

http://tagesschau.sf.tv/content/view/comments/272074/#comment_272187

 no   no   no 

... only in Switzerland.  ashamed 


User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5568 posts, RR: 36
Reply 22, posted (6 years 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 27903 times:

Quoting AviationMaster (Reply 21):
The Patrouille Suisse is on the verge of dissappearing due to lack of funds and the upcoming retirement of the F-5 TIgers.

I also read it. It is very sad. Patrouille Suisse has a great reputation, tradition and belongs to the best flying aerobatic teams in the world (with jets).

[Edited 2008-09-14 04:33:43]

User currently offlineHECA From Netherlands, joined Apr 2007, 232 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 27881 times:
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Quoting Sr176 (Reply 5):
With MS entering *A I hope at least to see them again in ZRH.

Egyptair (MS) currently codeshares with Swiss on the ZRH-CAI route. Now that MS is also part of *A it would be interesting to see whether LX and MS expand their codeshare agreement at both ends (comparable with the MS-LH agreement).

Either way, LX will move to the new *A terminal at CAI after opening.


User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4920 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (6 years 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 27666 times:

Germania to start 3xWeek Basle-Bari this winter. See also http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/read.main/4145207/

[Edited 2008-09-15 06:27:07]


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25 RJ100 : I was in Russia for another two weeks and couldn't follow the news in here (needed to plan a lot since my girlfriend finally moves to Basel in Novembe
26 FlySwiss : Is this confirmed with EY with MD11F to BSL from 24th Sept. As per my source in ZRH they have no infos.
27 RJ100 : As far as I understand Etihad has a first flight on September 24 and is planning other flights (ad hoc?) in the coming weeks. The goal is to reach an
28 Infodesk : Thomas, thanks for your comments. No doubt the LPL based aircraft will be used for INN or GVA. Having looked at easyJet's website, it is now confirmed
29 RJ100 : easyJet took a lot of flights out of the booking system in the last weeks. The flights were already on sale. From Basel, STN, LTN and LPL will not ope
30 SandroZRH : I'm sure they could find one or two destinations worth launching from BSL. But if you don't have any crews to operate the flights, you can't launch a
31 Knightsofmalta : I'm not really sure LX would be interested in launching any additional routes from BSL. I should think as long as they manage to keep easyjet in chec
32 Helvknight : I suppose they could always do wetleases say with Helvetic or Flightline.
33 SandroZRH : Yeah, and make the overall product even more inconsistent. They better wait until they actually HAVE the resources to expand.
34 RJ100 : I heard they will launch a codeshare on the TK flights out of BSL, me thinks they could do the same with SAS to CPH. That would make two new destinati
35 LXA340 : They have a cdeshare agreement on Zurich - Kiev Flights with Ukrainian Airlines.
36 Viscount724 : I don't think IEV has much high-yield business traffic, unlike Russia. Baboo (ex Flybaboo) dropped their brief effort to operate their E-190s GVA-IEV
37 717fan : Any airline news for Zurich in the coming winter timetable? Thanks
38 HBJZA : Just for being precise, Baboo used to serve KBP and not IEV....
39 Viscount724 : Well they did serve IEV since that's the IATA city code for the Kiev metropolitan area but I understand your technicality. IATA city codes are often
40 LXM83 : ...and to make it even more complicated, IEV is not only the code for the Kiev metropolitan area but also for Kiev-Zhulyany airport.... A IATA code c
41 ZRH : An interesting notice this morning when I picked somebody up at ZRH from LX 289 (JNB). They had two A 343 which arrived at almost the same time (from
42 SandroZRH : Did EK's A345 go tech today? it was parked up on the SRTechnics apron today at ~ 16:30. It's interesting since the flight is displayed as "departed" o
43 Infodesk : EK88 went tech yesterday, obviously it's taking a while to fix the problem Greetings Infodesk
44 Infodesk : Sorry, posted twice in error![Edited 2008-09-23 12:29:24]
45 SandroZRH : Thanks for the prompt answer! I knew that you'd be the one to know that
46 LXA340 : There are usually many connecting passengers on SWISS Intercontinental flights. It hapened to me already quite often to arrive on a fully packed flig
47 Standby87 : Hoi Zääme, Swiss to Bangkok: Does anyone know why LX are reducing schedule from Daily to 6 times weekly for Winter Season? I can't believe it's dema
48 SandroZRH : I didn't know that. But the most logical cause seems to be lack of crew indeed. Or are they going nonstop to SIN and BKK and we don't know about it y
49 Swissairtaz : Yes thats right, a hydraulic tube broke apart in the avionics compartment and the avionics racks are soaked with skydrol. An Airbus team has arrived
50 SandroZRH : Actually, he's busy with himself at the moment. He's been home for three days now with a nasty "Hexenschuss"
51 Ankaraflyjet : Hi Swiss folks, can anybody advise whether LX will reinstate ESB Ankara. After SR went down the route was suspended. ESB was on SR network for years a
52 SandroZRH : Virtually zero chance of this happening. ESB is covered by LX's charter arm Edelweiss to cater for tourist needs (and was formerly served by Swiss Su
53 LXM83 : Um, you're probably confusing ESB (Ankara) with AYT (Antalya). EDW flies to AYT but not to ESB. Not much tourists going there.... I agree thet there'
54 SandroZRH : Of course. Brainfart there, sorry But my opinion stays. As I said, there's probably less than 1% chance that LX would start any other route to Turkey
55 Post contains links ZRH : For those who know German, an interesting article in NZZ online about how SWISS can keep its own identity although being a 100% LH subsidiary: http://
56 LXA340 : SWISS currently operates 15 Airbus A340 and 10 Airbus A330, weren't they originaly only suppsoed to have 9 A330's so maybe by the end of the summer t
57 Ankaraflyjet : [quote=LXM83,reply=53][/quote Could you please explain how SR kept ESB on their ntework for over 30 years? Did they do it at a loss? ESB is the second
58 Viscount724 : Since Ankara is the capital of Turkey, I would have thought there would be quite a bit of high-yield traffic between ESB and Switzerland, especially
59 Knightsofmalta : Probably yes. When Swissair went bust, more than 50% of their traffic in Zurich was with transiting passenger. I forget the correct figure. There wer
60 LXA340 : On another note the route ZRH-GVA-ZRH sees many flights with low loads is this route even profitable or is the loss so minimal that it odesn't matter
61 SandroZRH : But obviously that bit of premium traffic doesn't seem enough to attract LX. The chance of LX serving Ankara is even slimmer than ever before, with T
62 Post contains links Helvknight : In the UK Times today an LX A320 pilot is planning to fly the English Channel, following Bleriot's route, using a jetpack. http://technology.timesonli
63 Knightsofmalta : I think GVA is a different. As you say, many of the flights are to position the aircraft. Secondly, GVA is LX's homemarket. In contrast, a premium ti
64 ZRH : A SWISS flight with 173 people on board to Thessaloniki got into a thunderstorm last night. An engine was hit and failed temporarily, so the pilots de
65 AntonovA330 : Heard about it as well. Why did they divert to ATH being on approach to SKG? Maintenance facilties?
66 ZRH : You are right. They were on the approach to SKG aborted it and diverted to Athens. I asked myself the same question. Perhaps longer and better runway
67 LXA340 : Thanks, yeah this is true. There were quite a few people acutally living in ZRH starting their flights abroad. For instance flying TLV-JFK via ZRH (A
68 Helvknight : Any idea how I can find out which bird flew LX 326 to LHR on Thursday? I normally put the reg in my flightmemory but after Thursdays shenanigans I jus
69 Sr176 : It was HB-IJP. I did not see it with my own eyes, but I saw it on internet.
70 Helvknight : Thanks Juerg
71 Post contains links Matterhorn : yesterday, FC Basel had a delay on its flight to Lissabon for today's game. an MD-90 from Hello obviously had problems with its engines, causing a 3 h
72 LXA340 : I just got back on HB-JMK from TLV and we were delayed on the ground for around an hour as there was a issue with the smoke detectors in the front car
73 RJ100 : FC Basel seems to have bad luck recently on its flights...while Hello's on time performance isn't worse than others it seems to hit FCB all the time.
74 Ham : Also, I guess it was not the players who renamed an airport restaurant "chez maurice" but i suppose they went to "chez moritz", the LX canteen next t
75 AntonovA330 : Any news on the A333 coming next year? After the LX-exclusive new cabin layout in Business Class, can we expect some revolutionary ideas in Y class to
76 Post contains links ZRH : Due to the rebuilding of Dock B at ZRH the viewing terrace will close from November 1st 2008 till spring 2011. In November and December they can't off
77 Post contains links ZRH : The good news are that as of January 2009 teraccce E will be open daily. http://www.zurich-airport.com/ZRH/?I...cks&ID_level1=6&ID_level2=17&a2=17
78 LXA340 : As far as I know the Y seats in the A333 for LX are the ones that were aimed for LH's A380's. They will probably be very thin and featuring a bit mor
79 ZRH : No. This is always a bottleneck when the aircrafts have to pass Dock B from the runways to the hangar area and the stands there. A double taxiway is
80 LXA340 : Oh ok I see, so incase there would be the need in future there is space to extend Dock B on that side and create more Jet bridges. BTW: Are there som
81 SandroZRH : There is, but quite limited space really. They opened a new, large access gate for vehicles just next to the Gate Gourmet facilities. There would be
82 ZRH : Ok, but this vehicles would not necessarily disturb new gates as they could underpass the gate building like they do now at Dock B, depending on arch
83 LXA340 : They really need to do somethign about that
84 LXA340 : What happened with LX's JFK flights today. Both LX16 and 14 were operated by an A340 and LX16 flew via GVA. Did (HB-IQP) the A330 that arrived out of
85 ZRH : When I visited today the terrace E at ZRH I could watch a quite spectacular take-off procedure which I did not experience till now. Within about 30 se
86 LXA340 : I guess that doesn't happen too often probably. I took off from RW 28 on an A330 a couple of months ago to JFK that's also quite an experience and al
87 ZRH : Interesting. Do they probably use the "GVA 332" for extra flights to other destinations as there is vacation time at moment in many Swiss Cantons? Or
88 AntonovA330 : Not too long I suppose (sorry for the imprecise answer...). What always distracts me a little when I see QR are these (LH-)grey engine cowlings... On
89 ZRH : This also caught my eyes when I saw her next to other LX 332s. Another cool sight today at Dock E was "the 340 family" side by side: LX 340-300, EK 3
90 SandroZRH : JFK has gone to 2 x daily A343 from 2 x daily A332, while MIA and ORD have gone back to daily A332. This would explain the awkward scheduling that da
91 LXA340 : No I doubt it, the plane was flown from GVA to ZRH today and didn't go anywhere from here. I gues some hick up in maitanance schedules or some urgent
92 SandroZRH : Nope, no issues with the aircraft that I (or my dad for that matter) know of. read above that's the only possible reason i can think of. Not just tha
93 LXA340 : Sorry Sandro it looks like I missed your previous reply. The next two days the schedules are a bit strange with the A343^s to JFK and LX16 going via
94 Post contains links OA260 : Can anyone tell me more about Darwin Airways ? I keep meaning to ask. Also for anyone thats interested my lastest Swiss report is here :: http://www.a
95 SandroZRH : Are you sure about this? The changes have been in the schedule for weeks now, so this wasn't a spontaneous measure. Yep, but as i said, we already ha
96 Oa260 : Arr ok , no im not planning to fly them but often see them on the ground at ZRH and always meant to ask where they go etc.. Thanks for the info. Hope
97 SandroZRH : You're welcome. Yeah everything is going well. I'm off to MIA on tuesday as i posted above, and thereafter its back to theory class at ZRH. Still som
98 Oa260 : Im jealous.... Id love a trip to MIA... Good just in time for next years J class mileage runs LOL....
99 LXA340 : Yes as said, as of Wednesday normal operations again. A330 on all flights to JFK and A340 to ORD and MIA. In this case the only logic explanation I w
100 HBChris : Thanks for the info. I looked at the PDF file. There is one thing I thought was interesting: The map shows an "Expansion of Skymetro service" between
101 Sr176 : From what I read earlier is that the skymetro just get a 3rd coach and that the stations are somehow devided into Schengen / non-Schengen.
102 SRA330-223 : hey guys. just wanted to add, what i've heard about LX22/23 (last weekend) in the company... . I am not sure whether this is true, but the crew dispo
103 SwissA330 : I just catched up reading the last 100 posts, and while reading the above a question came up, does LX still have the monopoly rights on the GVA-ZRH r
104 Dens : LX doesn't have the monopoly on the GVA-ZRH route as this route was also operated by Flybaboo in the past. I don't think that this route is profitable
105 ZRH : They divide the train (I think more cars) into two parts: passengers originating from Zurich have already past the central security and can deboard a
106 Helvknight : So is Dock E likely to be reunified eg the US/non-US separation done away with? If so are we all going to have to take our shoes off at central search
107 LXA340 : Also some of the flights are aimed at repositioning of aircraft either from GVA or from ZRH. However at least last minute if enough seats are availab
108 Post contains links ZRH : Yes. When you look at the plan you find on the ZRH page then you see a new security for non-Schengen transfer passengers. I think the other separate
109 Post contains links ZRH : In this brochure you see it better: http://www.flughafen-zuerich.ch/dokumente/Flyer_Zuerich_2010_FZH.pdf There are only two security checks on the di
110 Sr176 : According travelinside BA will drop BRN - BRU from Oct 25
111 Lsgg : Sad news BRN is definitely a difficult place to operate. See Swisswings...
112 ZRH : No wonder. Not much high yield o/d traffic and too close to ZRH. Only about one hour by train every half an hour
113 SwissA330 : And you have decent & direct transportation to ZRH Airport, whilst BRN is only served via S-Bahn and then a change to the Bus, not exactly what you'd
114 Sr176 : Correct, but from leaving the but to take off, it might take 30 min in BRN, while in ZRH you need more. Anyway the clients using BRN airport rather te
115 FlySwiss : I've just been informed from IR about a regular cargo service out of BSL. I do not know if you already informed about. WEEKLY CARGO FLIGHT AIRBUS A300
116 RJ100 : And here Air Berlin's summer 2009 program out of BSL: Monday: Palma (737-800), Djerba (Belair 757) Tuesday: Sharm-el-Sheikh (737-800), Antalya (Belair
117 SandroZRH : Hey all Florida is great so far. but even out here i caught a couple of fresh LX news: LX will wetlease an AC A330-300 for ZRH-YUL from October 26th t
118 ZRH : Hey Sandro. Nice to hear from Florida. I wish you fun and many happy landings. I seems that you have to hurry up with your school when SWISS is despe
119 ZRH : It seems BTW reasonable to reduce these flights during Christmas time as there is much less business travel then.
120 LXA340 : Why is LX wetleasing an ACA330 are they reducing their A332 fleet from 10 to 9 Aircraft or why else are they runing out of planes. On another note th
121 CX288 : I suspect the AC A330 would be manned by AC cockpit crew to overcome LX's crew shortage. No idea, however, how they will be staffing cabin crew.
122 SandroZRH : Thats right. As I said, all of these measures have to be taken because LX is running out of available cockpit crews (because a lot of pilots have rea
123 CX288 : So one is finally getting some good reliable service by younger cabin crew on LX flights
124 Post contains links ZRH : ZRH got the World Travel Award as "Europe's Leading Airport". The other nominees were: AMS, BCN, CPH, DME, HAM, LHR, FCO, MAD, MUC, CDG. http://www.ta
125 RJ100 : Ryanair obviously solved issues with BSL airport. They will also fly here next summer and have opened bookings to Gerona, Dublin, Alicante and Stanste
126 Swissairtaz : Its just a matter of the leasing rate. IQQ is cheaper in the leasing rate than IQR, but it took LX a while to realize that. I dont know what will hap
127 RJ100 : BSL-NYO now too on sale, another destination will follow soon...
128 Humberside : Looks like Germania have pulled their Bari flights from BSL before they even started
129 Post contains links ZRH : I found this in another thread: http://www.lufthansa-financials.de/s...814/berarbeitete%20Prs_Garnadt.pdf It is about LH's multi-hub system and how it
130 SandroZRH : Pardon me? Swiss have recruited and are recruiting a lot of young cabin crew members, and they're just as good (if not better from personal experienc
131 RJ100 : Germania decided to stop all scheduled flights- before they started one. They will only fly charters, like they did before. for the BSL-BRI route, th
132 RJ100 : Also it seems that Alitalia will end services to ZRH. Hard to believe that such a big airline isnt able to make such a route profitable. Alitalia must
133 LXA340 : So LX will still have 10 A332's in it's fleet and replace IQQ with IQR again? They are leasing in the AC plane inorder to use their cockpit crews and
134 Legacy135 : Agree with all of the comments, but in this particular case BRN was actually only dropped as a result of Sun-Air's restructuring on the Billund - Bru
135 Post contains links Oa260 : Well earned. Im happy they got it . Also more good news is the reduction in Fuel surcharges by Swiss from tomorrow . --------------------------------
136 Post contains links LXA340 : "SWISS will be keeping its route network at its present extent in the coming 2008/09 winter schedules, and is even adding further frequencies on certa
137 ME AVN FAN : Some information about Zurich Airport: This weekend is the last weekend with the spectators' terrace on Terminal B open. The BUCHairSHOP will still be
138 OA260 : Sad to see that go . It was a great feature. Will they replace it with another one in future? Also looks like Winter is due to hit ZRH on Wednesday.
139 RJ100 : Turkish Airlines further increases flights to Switzerland effective next March: Istanbul-Geneva up from 11 weekly to 14 weekly Istanbul-Basel up from
140 Post contains links ZRH : Quoting OA260 (Reply 138): Sad to see that go . It was a great feature. Will they replace it with another one in future? Also looks like Winter is due
141 LXA340 : It will be interesting to see if TK will move to Terminal 1 as of wintertimetable at ZRH well we will know by the latest tomorow once the new winter
142 Post contains links Oa260 : I was just looking here : http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml?world=0139 When you put the arrow over the black cloud and snow symbol for Wednesda
143 ME AVN FAN : - There IS another spectators' terrace on Terminal E (Midfield) and the access to that one will get heavily improved. There however out there will be
144 ME AVN FAN : - - and here the weather forecast : - Prognose für Zürich ©MeteoSchweiz, 25.10.2008, 09:59 Tag, Datum Wetter Temperatur Sonnenschein Niederschlag
145 Oa260 : Oh ok . Shame to see the current one go , some changes are not always good. I miss the FRA one also. Nice hopefully I will see it as I fly over the A
146 Post contains links ZRH : You probably mean Tram Nr 10 to "Bahnhof Glattbrugg". This will run from December 14th 2008 on as so called Glatttalbahn. The No 10 will run from Zü
147 Sr176 : Another topic SQ is obviously doing well in ZRH. I did a reserveation on ZRH - SIN in c-class one month in advance and on the midday flight I only got
148 LXA340 : They are more epxpensive than the competition, but they offer more and passengers are eilling to pay it even in those difficult times ha On another n
149 ZRH : I am nostalgic today, almost with tears in my eyes . I visited Terrace B for the last time before it will be closed and torn off. I have been there co
150 ME AVN FAN : - exactly that one !! For people conducting business in Glattbrugg a truly great thing. The route to downtown however really is horrible, unless you
151 HAJFlyer : LX loads are still high as are their prices. Will head to SIN & HKG next Saturday and the SQ fare in c-class was more than CHF 1000 cheaper than an o
152 ZRH : I don't hope so. I believe that the people of Unique know about the importance to promote the airport to the public with all noise problems they have
153 OA260 : Hi me also. I am transiting ZRH today ( writing this in the Senator lounge) and was at the Terrace at about 1430. It was very busy and there were que
154 ME AVN FAN : - THANKS for your visit, as I personally profit from a good result !! I however simply fail to see a too positive stance from officialdom up to now i
155 ZRH : They also have it on Terrace-E. There you can also listen to the tower. We will see what happens. But still we have the Terrace-E where, honestly sai
156 Viscount724 : My experiences of ZRH (and GVA) when it snows are much less favourable. They seem far less efficient than major Canadian airports that get much more
157 ME AVN FAN : - Generally, the snow-cleaning in ZRH works quite well. BUT as soon as a few delays "develop", the delays very swiftly culminate. -
158 RJ100 : Clickair now also ends services to ZRH. They once flew to GVA (twice daily and dropped later) and announced services to BSL (but never started the fli
159 Oa260 : Any way to check where the Swiss A330 registered HB - IQJ was flying today ?
160 Post contains links AntonovA330 : Yep, DAR via NBO as LX292. See http://www.flughafen-zuerich.ch/ZRH/..._level3=326&t=Masterflights&a3=326
161 Post contains links LXA340 : HB-IQJ operated LX292/3 to DAR via NBO today: http://www.flughafen-zuerich.ch/ZRH/..._level3=326&t=Masterflights&a3=326 Any update on which A330/ A34
162 Post contains links and images Oa260 : Thanks I was just surprised to see it parked at the A gates. Is this normal??
163 LXA340 : Usually a few times a week some long haul flights depart from A67 or A73. The most common ones are LX254 to TLV and LX236 to CAI, both operated with
164 ZRH : As of March 2009 this will definitely be over because the A-Gates will only be for Schengen flights and all non-Schengen flights will not be allowed
165 Greenjet : I had the pleasure of visiting the ZRH terrace for the first time yesterday. Watching the wave of 340s depart one after another (and climbing typical
166 LXM83 : As far as I know the most common reasons for longhaul flights sometimes going to/from dock A instead of dock B are these: - Capacity of SkyMetro (the
167 LXA340 : Once the new Dock B will be ready we might see some long haul departures then from there.
168 ZRH : Yes this could be because the new B will have two levels with either non-Schengen or Schengen gates. But what I understand B will mainly be used for
169 AviationMaster : Looks like today's first snow of the year caused some nice delays tonight. Can anyone tell me why LX is operating two evening A32X flights to TLV (and
170 Post contains links OA260 : LOL.... Was it bad ?? Here is my Trip report ...Swiss made LOL.... http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...ums/trip_reports/read.main/136236/ I wish I
171 ME AVN FAN : - Horrible ! I needed a quarter-hour for what usually is the walk of 5 minutes and slipped with every third step ! Roads congested, railways and tram
172 AviationMaster : One can say so. In the seven years I've been living here, I can't remember when we got snow this early. Many late evening flights, especially the lon
173 ME AVN FAN : - The only time when I remember snow was around earlier than now was 15th October 1960, my 10th birthday !
174 OA260 : Keep me posted for Monday LOL... Im transiting Via ZRH again .
175 ME AVN FAN : - Sunday and Monday according to the weather forecasts should be 5 degrees warmer than now with the snow-level getting up again ................. unl
176 AustrianZRH : Neither can I in the six years I am living here. But to be honest, that happens every year nevertheless in what month the snow is coming. One should
177 ZRH : They say that we did not have such much snow this early since 75 years. Five fligths at ZRH had to be cancelled today. The others had up to one hour
178 ME AVN FAN : - Weather forecasts I saw on Sunday saw the snow-level at 600 to 700 meters, while the Zurich area is 400 to 600. If they relied on wrong forecasts,
179 AustrianZRH : However, it's exactly the same mess if the snow comes in December. I noticed that every year now that the first snow of the year always completely me
180 ME AVN FAN : This is unfortunately true. Looks as if they do NOT prepare things until it is too late in each winter !
181 LXA340 : Usually the evening flightto TLV is operated by A330/A340 however due to the current shortage of cockpit crews on the long haul fleet one or 2 of the
182 Oa260 : Anyone know the best way to get from the Terminal at ZRH to the park under the flight path? Is there a bus that runs near there or is it a taxi job?
183 ZRH : It depends on which flight path you mean. Aproach 14/16? There is no bus bus and you probably need a taxi or walk (1 hour). When you mean the "Helipo
184 ME AVN FAN : - I suppose you mean the one right in the approach. That is in the village of Oberglatt. There is the bus 510 from Zurich-Airport station to Oberglat
185 Post contains images SandroZRH : Hey all. A classmate shot this rather interesting pic at SFB last night. Pilot flying of N1961H was myself, first time for me on the arrivals board (c
186 Oa260 : Thats cool. Congratulations.
187 ZRH : Cool. Congrats from here. Hope we'll soon see your flight on the board of ZRH. LX.... from....
188 OA260 : LX 400 ZRH-DUB
189 LXA340 : Congrats Sandro, yeah in around a year this might become reality ha?
190 SandroZRH : Thanks all, yeh DUB really doesn´t sound too bad
191 Swissgabe : As per Travel Inside, Air Seychelles will have again a weekly non-stop service from Mahe to Zurich and vv. effective S09 schedule.
192 LXA340 : I have been analyzing the LX long haul fleet operations and if I am not mistaken one A330 (HB-IQA is getting a C or D Check. One ofthe A340's (HB-JMK)
193 Post contains links A333X : Great news for GVA! The (very) reliable site http://www.dpts.org has just confirmed that there will be 2 new long haul flights to GVA next year! - IAD
194 Knightsofmalta : LH doesn't really have a say in the matter.
195 Viscount724 : If not mistaken most ZRH-YUL passengers are connecting beyond ZRH to the rest of LX's network. When I've used LX ZRH-YUL, it always seems like about
196 SRforever : According to todays Travel Inside, 4T is getting rid of its 763 after the winter season. Any idea where ILFC might place this aircraft, ET perhaps?
197 Ka : I would like to let some information of another thread (WINGS A330/340-thread) flow into this discussion: As I learned there - because the information
198 Sr176 : According Travelinside.ch DL will start ZRH - JFK in addition to their ATL flight in Juni 09. Equipment will be B757-200 ER
199 ZRH : This is ridiculous. Who wants to fly a narrrow-body over the Atlantic (besides of course the all business PrivatAir BBJ) when you have several other
200 HAJFlyer : Well, the last time we had two DL flights originating from ZRH they were operating the L1011-500 to CVG. Those were the times..... I am quite surprise
201 AviationMaster : DL to ZRH from JFK? Again? And this time with a B757? Honestly, I can't see this one lasting; especially with LX (A332s -> new A333s) CO (B762/4) and
202 LXA340 : Didn't DL have flights in the late 90s and in 2000 to CVG, JFK and ATL. At least at some point at least 2 of those routes operating together?
203 HAJFlyer : ZRH-ATL and ZRH-CVG were operating at the same time. IIRC ZRH-JFK came online only after the CVG route had been abandoned.
204 Post contains links Magic48 : How do you mean? There's a bunch of US carriers operating the 757 across the Atlantic... Apparently the new JFK-ZRH route will only be a seasonal one
205 ANITIX87 : My CO flight on the 757 was incredible. Tons of room, amazing AVOD, great service. I really couldn't complain at all. If DL's service is on par with
206 ZRH : Yes, but personally I would never ever take such a flight when I have plenty of other posibilities in a wide-body: I agree that the seat pitch can be
207 AviationMaster : AC does not fly YUL-ZRH, although they're currently operating the flight on behalf of LX till mid-December for LX with an A333. UA operates IAD-ZRH.
208 ANITIX87 : Thanks, Christian. Completely forgot about the PrivatAir flight! So UA currently has two dailies to ZRH (ORD and IAD)? And AC normally has only one fl
209 ZRH : No, UA has no ORD-ZRH flight, only IAD-ZRH. Canada flights: usually YYZ-ZRH is AC and YUL-ZRH LX, both have code-shares on each other flight. As ment
210 OA260 : I see Blue Islands are flying from SOU-ZRH and SOU-GVA. I wonder how they are doing?
211 Humberside : Its a tag on their existing Jersey-ZRH.GVA routes. Beleive GCI passengers now have to change in Jersey
212 LXA340 : As of today the Airbus A330 (HB-IQQ) is back again in service, it went to BOM. I guess this means that (HB-IQR) the Star Alliance plane was taken out
213 ZRH : For those who want to fly to/from ZRH or transfer here this weekend: heavy snow fall is again predicted. Starting in the night from Friday to Saturday
214 Sr176 : Did anybody notice the TG A345 in ZRH this morning coming from BKK, continuing to Lima ?
215 FlySwiss : Today's TG A345 to LIM was a VIP flight.
216 Post contains links AntonovA330 : It looks like BRN will get a new connection. Beginning 2009 AF will fly from ORY several times a day. Equipment shall be a ATR42. Source (german): htt
217 RJ100 : It is a once daily flight doing a nightstop in BRN.
218 Lsgg : Excellent news for BRN. Hope AF will do better than Swisswings.
219 Thomas_Jaeger : I would bet money that this will be a disaster for them unless they move the flight to CDG. The route did not work for Swiss when they operated it bef
220 Post contains links and images Legacy135 : No, even better, it's a twice daily flight doing day & and nightspot in BRN. The flight will leave BRN at 06:40 in the morning, fly to ORY and back.
221 AviationMaster : Was checking ZRH's flight info page right now and saw that there is a TG A345 departing at 2000 hrs. and a cancelled AC departure to LHR. Does anyone
222 LXA340 : Yes the TG flight is the charter on it's inbound flight back to BKK via ZRH from Lima from a few days ago. Regarding that AC flight, maybe yesterdays
223 Panamair : DL originally had JFK-ZRH from the Pan Am transatlantic route acquisition in 1991...they dropped it and shortly thereafter got involved with the SR a
224 AntonovA330 : Ok I exaggeratet there a little, sorry about. Maybe that's what they're looking for, transit pax connecting to some destination in France only, no? A
225 Oa260 : With Switzerland going into Schengen in Dec. 12th and later in March with regards to Air travel am I right in saying that DUB-ZRH flights will arrive
226 Viscount724 : No, I don't think there will be any change for DUB-ZRH flights (assuming you are referring to LX flights). I believe the B pier which was closed when
227 Post contains links ZRH : E -gates will be non-Schengen, A-gates Schengen. The new B-bus-gates Schengen and the old B-bus-gates non-Schengen. When Dock B is rebuilt it will ha
228 Post contains links ZRH : On 20min.ch there is a report that travel offices sent a charter aircraft to Thailand to the airport of Utapao to get stranded tourists. They say that
229 Viscount724 : Does that mean that until Dock B is rebuilt some LX non-Schengen flights within Europe will have to move to Dock E? That won't be very convenient for
230 ZRH : Yes, I think some LX non-Schengen flights will have to move to the E-gates. For example those to UK. I don't know how they will handle the LCY AVRO f
231 LXM83 : Yes, it will be an MD90 of Hello according to ZRH airport's website: 18:00 FHE 5800 UTP MD90 HBJID Unfortunately, you cannot see where the fuel-stops
232 Post contains links ZRH : A SWISS A 340 to HKG had to make a unforeseen stop in the north-west Chinese city Urumqi because there was a smoke alarm in a toilet. They don't know
233 ZRH : Really weird that they did not find a better suited aircraft for this long-haul flight, for example the EDW 330 or the Belair (AB) 767. Using an MD 9
234 Oa260 : Thanks for that . I was worried that it might push up Minimum connecting times and they are tight already. Thats a long flight, How long will it take
235 ZRH : Perhaps an idiot tried to smoke in the toilet. If yes, he should be convicted to pay all the costs for the extra stop.
236 Legacy135 : Sure, but as far as I remember, Hello goes from BSL to DKR with an MD90 as well and has at least one aircraft, that can do this nonstop. So I think t
237 Post contains links AviationMaster : Was surfing around YouTube today and found this old two-part video documenting an SR Coronado flight to HKG. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=eH4bO4Ef6HY
238 LXA340 : "Die genaue Ursache für den Rauch an Bord ist noch unbekannt, so Gullotti gegenüber 20 Minuten Online. Dass Swiss-Flieger wegen eines Rauchalarms i
239 Post contains links ZRH : Here we got it: the aircrafts (two flights) have to stop twice for refueling: http://www.20min.ch/news/schweiz/story/19680134 (The chartered aircraft
240 Viscount724 : Those videos were obviously put together from at least two different PR films. The cabin interior shots showing passengers/seats are of a DC-8, not a
241 FlySwiss : A while ago Crossair flew charter flights to Goa India with MD82 or MD87 with a fuelstop in THR. I remember it because I saw it in THR as I flew back
242 RJ100 : Obviously there were two Hello aircraft flying to Thailand. One via Sharjah and one via Yerevan.
243 Swissairtaz : Not a PAX is responsible for the smoke in the lavatory. A seized up bearing of the ACM #1 caused the smoke in the lavatory and partially in the cabin
244 ZRH : Thanks for this info.
245 Infodesk : This evening's Hello flight from Utapoa, FHE 6801, made a fuel stop in Yerevan, Armenia.
246 Oa260 : Thanks for the update. Nice routing. An Anetters dream. lol...
247 LXA340 : It looks like the ferry flight was cancelled today, is the problem more severe? Also due too the iregularities in the long haul operations it looks l
248 Standby87 : LXA340 (appropriate user name!! ) The Ferry of your username aircraft is delayed due to weather in Urumqi. Cheers
249 LXA340 : hehe thanks . Ok I saw that the flight arrived this evening eventually.
250 RJ100 : Airbus Industries A-380 F-WWOW made a low pass in BSL today 11:31 local time. A nice surprise
251 717fan : From TravelInside: Sata Air Acores to ZRH from Funchal as of Summer 09. 1x weekly with A320.
252 Post contains links ZRH : While LH lost 2.3 % passengers in November the subsidiary SWISS had an increase of passengers of 9.1 %. http://www.nzz.ch/nachrichten/wirtsc...ufthans
253 Post contains links AntonovA330 : This November, ZRH had an increase of 2.6% in pax numbers versus last year. Jan-Nov shows almost 20.5 million pax. Looks promising to reach 22 million
254 Post contains links ZRH : Although there is a special thread about the new destinations of Armenian airline Armavia it is worth to mention here that this airline will fly to ZR
255 LXA340 : I would assume this means that Armenian tickets can be combines with flights operated by SWISS from ZRH.
256 Post contains links 102IAHexpress : Apologies for never clicking on the Swiss Aviation thread till now, but what is the consensus on a link between IAH and Switzerland? Does today's anno
257 Thomas_Jaeger : Air One will give up its Catania-Naples-Zurich flights on January 14, so the new Alitalia will not operate to Zurich at all.
258 HAJFlyer : Currently there is not enough O&D traffic between IAH and ZRH to justify such a routing. However, once CO joins the star alliance a hub-to-hub flight
259 ME AVN FAN : - here below the news-item as it will be in the next issue of "Jetstream" Magazine (I do HAVE the 'copyright' !) , with my personal interpretation of
260 HAJFlyer : I find it hard to believe that having "only" a interline agreement, but not a codeshare agreement with LX will be enough to make this flight sucessfu
261 ME AVN FAN : - Not necessarily of LX. But it will improve the position of Continental Airlines in Zurich. So that there in the longer run will rather be a CO than
262 Helvknight : Today the timetable changed in Switzerland (as in most of Europe) and the Glattalbahn phase 2 to ZRH entered service. Tram 10 is extended from Oerliko
263 LXA340 : As of today LX operates it's ZRH-YUL flight again with their own equipment. Due to crew shortage this flight was operated since the end of october wit
264 AntonovA330 : Nice to hear things at LX are back to normal (well, almost). I'm a bit surprised to find just three pics on the database. But we will see more A333 n
265 Poh2 : Hey guys, I've noticed this for a while, but have been waiting for a while whether or not to post this, as it seems a bit of a stupid question...but a
266 LXM83 : You probably haven't flown on a Russian domestic flight! It usually is very warm (if not hot) even in winter. Really uncomfortable considering that o
267 LXA340 : I agree that especially on night flighs the cabin temperature is often to warm on LX flights. Nevertheless I ususally only fly LX, which would make i
268 AntonovA330 : Why don't you tell a F/A? She/he then reports it to the flight deck and they handle the situation accordingly. If they don't - at least it's worth a t
269 Post contains links AntonovA330 : Anyone, any idea why IQK took off for Pula (as LX 5532)? Charter maybe? Have a look at http://www.flughafen-zuerich.ch/ZRH/..._level3=326&t=Masterflig
270 LXA340 : Last week LX also had a flight to there. Maybe it's for training purposes?
271 HBDAN : From ATW online: Swiss International Air Lines plans to add San Francisco, Abu Dhabi and Beijing to its network as soon as the industry downturn concl
272 AntonovA330 : Does the article it say if the PEK flight will be a seperate one or part of nowadays PVG flight?
273 LXA340 : I don't know what the article said, however the considerations used tp be to operate btoh cities seperately. This would mean we would see additional
274 LXM83 : News for ZRH's Summer 09 timetable: Aer Lingus will operate a daily service from it's newly announced LGW base to ZRH starting 26Apr09 as follows (loc
275 Ka : 11 have been already ordered for delivery from Mar-09 until Feb-11. KA.
276 ZRH : I really wonder about this other LON flight. ZRH-LON (all airports) has already plenty of flights. LX, BA, Easy; at least 24 flights a day. AF cancel
277 Ka : And BA cancels its ZRH-LGW-flights.... KA.
278 LXM83 : I think there could be enough demand for a LGW service if marketed properly. It can serve the Sussex are (roughly the area along the coast line Ports
279 ME AVN FAN : - While you are right and may be proven right, there still is the excellent rail-connection to central London (Victoria Station) out of LGW which in
280 777way : Emirates Cargo have ended freighter service to Zurich.
281 ME AVN FAN : Most regrettable, but as the airplanes in question now are sold and the two flights per day offering the capacity required, it was obious
282 LXA340 : Originaly they ordered 9, so it looks like the order was increased in the meanwhile to 11?
283 ZRH : Yes, the order was increased to 11. It was mentioned in this thread (no time to read all posts again) or in one of the different "LH-order-threads".
284 Thomas_Jaeger : If I remember correctly, two A330-300 orders were transferred from LH to LX.
285 RJ100 : It will be very interesting to see EI's performance on the ZRH-LGW route. I could be wrong but for me it seems to be a bad timing to start this route.
286 Post contains links LXA340 : Ok thanks. Yeah that's good news for LX. just checked on luftfahrt.ch and there the extra 2 planes are also listed already: http://www.luftfahrt.ch/d
287 PP705 : Hey guys, the thread has grown too long. Please start another thread....Thread 19.
288 Post contains links SandroZRH : Your wish is my command: http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/read.main/4256406/
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