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Now That AA's SJU Downsizing...  
User currently offlineN701AA From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 61 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2625 times:

Now that AA's SJU downsizing is going on all cilinders, I was wondering if anyone has insight into how AA's reduction of schedule is affecting the airport, community, traveling public, etc. Also, wondering if we can get insight into how AA has handled the restructuring with its SJU employees and loyal customers (passenger and cargo), who for more than 20 years have made AA's SJU Hub part of their lives.

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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9769 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2568 times:



Quoting N701AA (Thread starter):
Now that AA's SJU downsizing is going on all cilinders, I was wondering if anyone has insight into how AA's reduction of schedule is affecting the airport, community, traveling public, etc.

As this reduction to my knowledge has just taken into effect this month I think it's too early to see how this flight reduction has affected the airport, community, traveling public etc. What more can one say at this point about affects when the flight reduction has only started only a few days ago? By the of this year this would be a better question but now is too early to see any affect besides the flight reduction and the added flights so far announced by the competition.

A388


User currently offlinePRAirbus From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2005, 1136 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2558 times:

The economy in Puerto Rico is in crisis as well. The govt of PR met with AA to make it reconsider but not much was obtained. So far, effective November 2008, (3) additional AA mainline flights will be reinstated; BWI, SDQ and LAX. AA cut a lot of flights but airlines such as jetBlue will keep adding routes and frequencies. AirTran is also adding flights to MCO. I guess there might be a balance of flights available once AA competitors expand their schedules. AA will also upgrade some additional SJU-MIA flights that became 757s to A300s again next November. Most AA SJU Hub "junior" employees were offered transfers to other AA stations in the mainland USA. Still, there are plenty of unused gates in SJU. Right now, it is low season we'll have to wait and see how the winter season goes.

User currently offlineN701AA From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 61 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2494 times:



Quoting A388 (Reply 1):
By the of this year this would be a better question

You are right, but there has to be immediate impact to life without all those flights, specially all those widebodies, on an island economy so dependent on them. Just wondering what's going on right now.


User currently offlineTAN FLYR From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1906 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2439 times:



Quoting N701AA (Reply 3):
You are right, but there has to be immediate impact to life without all those flights, specially all those widebodies, on an island economy so dependent on them. Just wondering what's going on right now.

As a shipper that flies highly perishable/ high value food items to SJU at various times of the year, we are concerned about the amount of widebody lift to SJU. IF AA does not keep adequete wide body service, the availablility and cost of a number of these items will increase significantly to the consumers of PR and hospitality industry.

OTH, DL could drop in an additional 763 or 764 into a quick ATL /SJU rotation and pick up significant revenue that AA seems to be leaving on the table.

Another possiblity, is that by the time the A300 drawdown gets in to its' latter half, Perhaps AA will see the lost cargo revenue and slide an additional 763 or even a 777 into SJU from either MIA or JFK.


User currently offlineChepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6213 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2433 times:

Passengers will adjust,
As was mentioned previously this is low season, so the effect might be minimal at the moment. But when the Holidays come around, usually CO, DL, US,B6 and others boost their capacity, whcih i am sure we will this year with AA's decrease in capacity. Most probably you will see CO bring in their 767's, US will bring back their A330 and 767 flights and DL will send 767's from ATL, and B6 will have around 4 flights to MCO and 6 to JFK. Again, I'm sure this will be for the high season (starts around Nov), then it will go down again.
If SJU survived Easterns shutdown, I am sure it will survive wthl AA's decrease in service.

Regards,

Chepos



Fly the Flag!!!!
User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9769 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2239 times:



Quoting TAN FLYR (Reply 4):
As a shipper that flies highly perishable/ high value food items to SJU at various times of the year, we are concerned about the amount of widebody lift to SJU. IF AA does not keep adequete wide body service, the availablility and cost of a number of these items will increase significantly to the consumers of PR and hospitality industry.

It depends in my opinion. The loss of AA widebody flights shouldn't be that big of a problem. There are other airlines flying to/from SJU, including cargo airlines. If there is good money to be made, these airlines will step in to tap into that perishable market by air. Another option is shipping by sea which takes longer but is cheaper and do-able with a good planning department. Flowers are a different story and do need to be shipped by air. If you are talking about flowers, than I can understand your worries.

Quoting Chepos (Reply 5):
Passengers will adjust,
As was mentioned previously this is low season, so the effect might be minimal at the moment. But when the Holidays come around, usually CO, DL, US,B6 and others boost their capacity, whcih i am sure we will this year with AA's decrease in capacity. Most probably you will see CO bring in their 767's, US will bring back their A330 and 767 flights and DL will send 767's from ATL, and B6 will have around 4 flights to MCO and 6 to JFK. Again, I'm sure this will be for the high season (starts around Nov), then it will go down again.
If SJU survived Easterns shutdown, I am sure it will survive wthl AA's decrease in service.

Very well said, I couldn't agree more with you. When an big airline leaves an airport of course it is tough on the airport in the initial phase as there is a big chunk of the aircraft movement being left open. But as Chepos said, other airlines will fill the gap.

The most interesting thing about the aviation is the continuous changing environment that is typical to the aviation.

A388


User currently offlinePRAirbus From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2005, 1136 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2044 times:

Martinair cargo operates M11 wide-body's to SJU same goes for UPS, Fedex, Arrow, etc...cargo wise I am not so sure it would be affected. It seems there is plenty of capacity to/from SJU, keep in mind the World economy especially USA is in crisis, most businesses are using air cargo less due to its cost.

User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9769 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1841 times:



Quoting PRAirbus (Reply 7):
Martinair cargo operates M11 wide-body's to SJU same goes for UPS, Fedex, Arrow, etc...cargo wise I am not so sure it would be affected. It seems there is plenty of capacity to/from SJU

That is my point exactly. There is enough cargo capacity to/from SJU, with or without AA. I don't see a big problem there.

A388


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