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User currently offlinePedros From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1908 times:

Can somebody please 'splain to me, how the Space Shuttle and ATC interact, or fail to interact when the orbiter is landing or blasting off??? Who has priority over airspace? NASA or the FAA? Thank you.

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User currently offlineXFSUgimpLB41X From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 4200 posts, RR: 37
Reply 1, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1882 times:

The airspace surrounding cape canaveral is turned into a restricted area when the shuttle is departing....and the airspace around the place where it will be landing is also restricted.


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User currently offlineBostonBeau From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 463 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1866 times:

I wonder how much airspace they have to clear for the landings, since the shuttle has so little maneuverability after the fuel is gone.

User currently offlineGOT From Sweden, joined Dec 2000, 1912 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 1844 times:

The restricted area is probably HUGE.

GOT



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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8902 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1811 times:

I would believe NASA has precedence over FAA. The prez has precedence over all, then military VIPs, then the space shuttle. The landing order is Cape Canaveral, Edwards in California, and then some site in New Mexico. If all those sites are taken, I wonder if they would land it at JFK with their 14500 ft runway.

Jeff


User currently offlineN202PA From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1562 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1801 times:

The landing site in New Mexico is White Sands, where the shuttle landed once in the early 80s.

User currently offlineAmpropilot2b From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 138 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1798 times:

Well actually, you were right when you said that the area becomes restricted...however, it the changes don't have a very big impact on the normal air operations in central Florida. I fly out of Daytona Beach, and frankly, not to much changes during shuttle operations. A NOTAM (notice to airman) is issued, which tells pilots about the launch. An area, about twenty five square miles on the coast is closed from the surface to unlimited. Most of the restricted airspace is actually out to sea, and is about 3/5 the size of Orlando's class B (this area is closed three hours before launch. Flights along the coast have to deviate, and flights departing and arriving in Orlando use different routes, but its not really a problem since the whole thing is over so quick.

The shuttle doesn't require a huge area when it is landing because it approaches at an angle about 15 times greater than a commercial airplane.

On another note....there is NOTHING like seeing the shuttle launch from an airplane only a few miles away.



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