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New Airbus A350-1000 Order Air Caraïbes  
User currently offlinePanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4119 posts, RR: 90
Posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 8952 times:
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Airbus have secured a new commitment for the A350;

- The model is the A350-1000XWB

- Delivery Set for 2017 through 2018

- These will be supplemented by A333 operations until delivery

- No mention of options

More news, available in French only, via EADS, at the link below

http://bourse.lerevenu.com/newsdepec...&numligne=3&date=080915&source=FPS

Airbus may not have booked an order last month but they are still working away to secure new customers, let's hope these hit the books soon.


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User currently offlineWINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2831 posts, RR: 68
Reply 1, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 8943 times:



Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Thread starter):
Airbus have secured a new commitment for the A350;

- The model is the A350-1000XWB

- Delivery Set for 2017 through 2018

It is great to finally see yet another A350XWB customer, and in particular for the A350-1000 model. Steadily the A350XWB program is gathering more momentum from a wide variety of airlines across all region of the globe.  Smile

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Wings



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User currently offlineScouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3384 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 8832 times:

Have I translated the article correctly - they're putting 364 pax in the A333s and 440 in the A3510s?

That's a squeeze!


User currently offlineFrigatebird From Netherlands, joined Jun 2008, 1577 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 8770 times:



Quoting Scouseflyer (Reply 2):
Have I translated the article correctly - they're putting 364 pax in the A333s and 440 in the A3510s?

That's a squeeze!

The 333 will be configured 9 abreast in Y, and the 3510 10 abreast. Good luck for those people flying them  crowded  But I believe their current A330's are 9 abreast too, so people know what to expect... The French Caribbean is a typical low yielding market, AF operates 470 passenger 77W's there.



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User currently offlineAA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3429 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 8430 times:

How many are they taking?

Also, how often do they run the Martinique-ORY route? It appears to be their only long haul destination, and on their website it says they have 3 a/c. If you include AF and other airlines on the route one wonders who is flying given the tiny size of the island.
Always good to see a Caribbean carrier ordering the latest equipment. Way to go Air Caraibes!

AA1818



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User currently offlineScouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3384 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 8370 times:



Quoting AA1818 (Reply 4):
How many are they taking?

My very poor translation skills have lead me to beleive that it's 3 A350s but I'm not sure how many A330s


User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9747 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 8370 times:



Quoting AA1818 (Reply 4):
How many are they taking?

Also, how often do they run the Martinique-ORY route? It appears to be their only long haul destination, and on their website it says they have 3 a/c. If you include AF and other airlines on the route one wonders who is flying given the tiny size of the island.

The order is for three. I guess there is enough demand for all these airlines to fly to Paris. Remember that Air Caraibes also flies from PTP which isn't a small island. They have two hubs (PTP and FDF). They also feed passenger from all the other french speaking island, so in total that market isn't that small in my opinion.

CUR is also a small island (444 square km) and will have 3 daily flights from AMS starting this winter. The airlines flying the route are doing pretty well. So it is possible.

A388


User currently offlineWorldrider From Switzerland, joined Nov 2007, 301 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 8325 times:



Quoting Scouseflyer (Reply 5):
but I'm not sure how many A330s

none. don't they already have them?


User currently offlineScouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3384 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 8273 times:



Quoting Worldrider (Reply 7):
none. don't they already have them?

Oooopps of course they do! Big grin


User currently offlineAA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3429 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 8169 times:



Quoting Scouseflyer (Reply 5):
My very poor translation skills have lead me to beleive that it's 3 A350s but I'm not sure how many A330s

Thanks. My French is terrible so I didn't even bother to try! hehe

Quoting A388 (Reply 6):
Remember that Air Caraibes also flies from PTP which isn't a small island.

Thanks for clearing that up. I was under the impression that they only flew out of Martinique to ORY. I didn't realize they flew out of FDF to ORY!
I assume each one if daily (at least) with 3 a/c.

AA1818



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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9747 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 8092 times:



Quoting AA1818 (Reply 9):
Thanks for clearing that up.

You're welcome. As for their schedule I don't know there current schedule but if memory serves me well Air Caraibes combines FDF/PTP on some days while operating the Paris route separately too from FDF/PTP. Our french (Caribbean) members can best answer this question.

A388


User currently offlineFCKC From France, joined Nov 2004, 2348 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 7678 times:

They operate 2 daily flights to PTP and FDF from ORY.Don't know if it's 1 daily flights to PTP and 1 daily flight to FDF , or some combine ORY-FDF/PTP flights.

Often i see the 3 Airbusses together at ORY in the morning.

One of them (F-OPTP) is confirmed to be the Air Force One for Sarkozy , as soon as Air Caraibes will receive new A333s.


User currently offlineFCKC From France, joined Nov 2004, 2348 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 7648 times:

Ah , forgot to precise , they will beginn on Dec 19th , ORY-CAY-ORY.

User currently offlineGoldorak From France, joined Sep 2006, 1832 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 7602 times:



Quoting AA1818 (Reply 9):
I was under the impression that they only flew out of Martinique to ORY. I didn't realize they flew out of FDF to ORY!

FDF is actually in Martinique. PTP is in Guadeloupe  Wink


User currently offlineAA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3429 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 7567 times:



Quoting FCKC (Reply 12):
Ah , forgot to precise , they will beginn on Dec 19th , ORY-CAY-ORY.

I guess that better explains the 3rd A333 then!

Cheers for the info. So little is known abou Air Caraibes among English Speaking Caribbean-peoples...perhaps you could post in the Caribbean Aviation Thread and give the regular posters some info on Air Caraibes and their future plans especially regarding regional ops.

I know they used to fly into POS with E145s but they stopped. I assume these flights didn't do well!? Any idea what traffic they were going after? French Creoles living in POS with family ties to FDF. Would be sweet to see the Air Caraibes livery once more in POS!

AA1818



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User currently offlineEA772LR From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2836 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 7425 times:

It's nice to see another 350-1000 customer  thumbsup 


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User currently offlineCarl50mq From Martinique, joined Nov 2007, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 6894 times:

Air Caraïbes operates 1 daily flight to FDF, an other one daily to PTP. And during the holiday, they operate 1 more daily flight to each french island.

Carl from Martinique


User currently offlineAA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3429 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 6755 times:



Quoting Goldorak (Reply 13):
FDF is actually in Martinique. PTP is in Guadeloupe Wink

Thanks for clearing that up- still learning my 3- letter codes! hehe

AA1818



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User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13738 posts, RR: 19
Reply 18, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 6647 times:

How nice and far sighted of Air Caraïbes. Kudos to them !


It already has three Airbus A330s as well as three A330-300s on outstanding order with the European airframer.

FlightGlobal

"At a time when the price of fuel is of uppermost concern, our decision was dictated by need to optimize our fuel economy," Jean-Paul Dubreuil said in a telephone interview with Dow Jones Newswires. "The price of fuel may fluctuate, but it will remain expensive."

Dubreuil said he expects to get 16% fuel economy from the A350s compared to the company's existing A330- 300.

"Nine years may seem like a long time to wait," Dubreuil said, "but we felt that if we didn't take the decision we might miss out on the delivery slots, in view of the fierce competition in the airline industry."

"My net cost per seat for the A350s is only very slightly more than what I'm paying for the A330-300s," he said.

Dow Jones Newswires via CNNMoney



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User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6871 posts, RR: 63
Reply 19, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4778 times:

Announcing the engine order, RR say that they've now sold Trent XWBs on 374 planes for 17 customers.

There are different ways of adding up the numbers but my guess is that the following A350XWB customers have not yet committed to RR or (e.g. Etihad) have not yet firmed the order and so aren't counted.

Aer Lingus (6)
Afriqiyah (6)
AWAS (2)
DAE (30)
Etihad (25)
Kingfisher (5)
Libyan (4)
Synergy (10)
TAM (22)
TAP (12)
Tunisair (3)
Vietnam Airlines (10)

That's 136 planes and 12 customers playing "wait-and-see". I think Etihad and Synergy have already announced that they will order the Trent XWB but that still leaves 101 planes thinking about the Trent XWB or the ... ???  scratchchin 

I'd love to know who is saying what to whom behind the scenes. Are Aer Lingus and others still hoping for a GE option? I guess they can afford to wait.  Wink


User currently offlineParapente From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 1548 posts, RR: 10
Reply 20, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4452 times:

It was stated earlier that the new planes would be seating 440 pax at 10 across. Does anybody know what seat width and pitch this infers?

User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12407 posts, RR: 46
Reply 21, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4271 times:
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Airbus press release is now available:
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