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Southwest Starts Fingerprint Security At BWI  
User currently offlineMKE22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1128 posts, RR: 2
Posted (5 years 7 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2997 times:

http://www.bizjournals.com/sacramento/stories/2008/09/15/daily54.html

Over 200 BWI based WN pilots started using this technology today for the next 2 months. I think that this could be the future for frequent flyers and others based on background checks and stuff obviously, but this could streamline the security process. Anybody think the same?


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User currently offlineCrewchief From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (5 years 7 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2800 times:

I don't think it's the future for frequent flyers. Today we have the registered traveller program and many airports (see http://www.flyclear.com). The benefit of the program, however, is difficult to determine. Even registered travelers, background checked and identified by documents and biometrics, have to go through the same security screening process as those travelers who are not background checked and biometrically identified.

There is a benefit to the traveler, however. They get to miss the security lines and go directly to a screening lane. For the traveller, the $128 fee is nothing more than a way to step to the front of the line.


User currently offlineMtnwest1979 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 2390 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (5 years 7 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2762 times:
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Well having read that after being verified by the biometric process and such, that the crews will go thru the exit lanes to the concourse, at least according to newsletter I read. The way it is going to be operated wasn't even mentioned in article.
Now this has two things that it brings to mind. 1. Some exit lane swill not support this. Where I work is one with two sets of automatic doors that are 50 feet apart. I would think that just an express thru normal screening area would be better. And 2. what would stop a disgruntled but in good standing from doing anything harmful?



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User currently offlineThorben From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (5 years 7 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2543 times:

Did anybody ask the pilots whether they agree to this?

User currently offlineThirtyEcho From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 1639 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (5 years 7 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2528 times:

Take the train.

Who in the hell wants to put up with TSA and airline BS anymore?

Real soon, airlines are going to start charging for cabin pressurization.

Pay or die, suckers.


User currently offlineLuv2cattlecall From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1650 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (5 years 7 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2508 times:
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Quoting Crewchief (Reply 1):

There is a benefit to the traveler, however. They get to miss the security lines and go directly to a screening lane. For the traveller, the $128 fee is nothing more than a way to step to the front of the line.

I got it way back when it meant we could leave our shoes on, laptops in bags..etc...now it's like you said, a line jump pass - except, at MCO, it's resulted in being in a longer line than everyone else. I still don't get why they need a photo ID along with the retinal scan....takes more time than the normal way there too.



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User currently offlineJblake1 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 292 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 7 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2448 times:

CLEAR and other programs like it do nothing to speed the overall processing of passengers. It simply pulls resources from TSA to provide screening to the same people who could have been processed in line with everyone else. Obviously some savy business and lobbying folks convinced the government and airports looking for (rent revenue), an opportunity to establish a monopoly (in those airports they serve) to sell the idea that it is somehow more than marginally convenient.

User currently offlineGlbltrvlr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 634 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 7 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2371 times:

Quoting Jblake1 (Reply 6):
CLEAR and other programs like it do nothing to speed the overall processing of passengers. It simply pulls resources from TSA to provide screening to the same people who could have been processed in line with everyone else.

I agree.. Clear and the like are nothing but a big crock. I was looking at the new Denver Clear the other day. All it is is a little bit of theater that verifies identity and an escort to the screening point. The little sign that states certain people can jump to the front of the line for screening was a nice touch.

[Edited 2008-09-18 07:58:35]

User currently offlineMaxisno1 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2007, 213 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 7 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2361 times:



Quoting ThirtyEcho (Reply 4):
Take the train.

Who in the hell wants to put up with TSA and airline BS anymore?

Real soon, airlines are going to start charging for cabin pressurization.

 thumbsup  Agreed.

Quoting Jblake1 (Reply 6):
Obviously some savy business and lobbying folks convinced the government and airports looking for (rent revenue), an opportunity to establish a monopoly (in those airports they serve) to sell the idea that it is somehow more than marginally convenient.

Yes, It is a joke!

Quoting MKE22 (Thread starter):
I think that this could be the future for frequent flyers and others based on background checks and stuff obviously

I hope not, another inconvenience!


User currently offlineFLFlyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 7 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2206 times:

It sounds most of you have not used Clear. Many airports have lines for high level FFs and F/C pax. Clear works great at MCO.

User currently offlineMKE22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1128 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (5 years 7 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2132 times:



Quoting FLFlyer (Reply 9):
It sounds most of you have not used Clear. Many airports have lines for high level FFs and F/C pax. Clear works great at MCO.

What airports have this?



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User currently offlineGlbltrvlr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 634 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 7 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2010 times:



Quoting MKE22 (Reply 10):

What airports have this?

United at O'Hare, plus a bunch of international airports I've been through. (Heathrow, Gatwick, Prague, Frankfurt, etc.) There are different ways of implementing it. Some (like the US Clear sites), just use it for document checks and dump you into security with everyone else. Others have dedicated security lines, but that's no guarantee you'll get through any faster as the public areas frequently have more screening lanes and you can go around one that's backed up.


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