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Singapore Airlines Get 6th A380 For LHR Route  
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27307 posts, RR: 60
Posted (6 years 3 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 15424 times:

Good news for SQ and great to see it on the LHR route. When will FRA get theirs?

September 18, 2008
Singapore Airlines, the world's biggest carrier by stock market value, said on Thursday it has received its sixth A380 superjumbo from planemaker Airbus.

Singapore Air said it will put the latest A380, the world's largest passenger jet, on a second daily flight between Singapore and London.

Airbus had said on Monday it is sticking to its target of delivering 12 of its A380 superjumbo aircraft by the end of the year, after a French newspaper reported the model was facing further delays.

(Reuters)

http://news.airwise.com/story/view/1221729485.html

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User currently offlineTropicalsq744 From Singapore, joined Nov 2001, 260 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (6 years 3 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 15367 times:

Hmm wasn't SIA beaten by Southwest as largest airline by market cap a few years ago?


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User currently offlineScouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3402 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (6 years 3 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 15211 times:

The best thing about this is how low key A380 deliveries are starting to become, one today, one tomorrow!

Quoting OA260 (Thread starter):
Airbus had said on Monday it is sticking to its target of delivering 12 of its A380 superjumbo aircraft by the end of the year, after a French newspaper reported the model was facing further delays.

That's good, there was a number of reports that issues were building up.


User currently offlineMk777 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1195 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 3 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 15066 times:



Quoting OA260 (Thread starter):
Airbus had said on Monday it is sticking to its target of delivering 12 of its A380 superjumbo aircraft by the end of the year

So SQ has 6, EK has 1, that leaves 5 more that need to be delivered this year, who will get these 5?? Qantas comes to mind!!! besides them, who else?



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User currently offlineThorben From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (6 years 3 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 14884 times:

Why do they use it to LHR? I always thought that with planes 5 & 6 they'd go for SIN-HKG-SFO.

Quoting Mk777 (Reply 3):
So SQ has 6, EK has 1, that leaves 5 more that need to be delivered this year, who will get these 5?? Qantas comes to mind!!! besides them, who else?

First SQ was delivered last year.

This year will see three more to QF (one tomorrow), and three more to EK.


User currently offlineJWMD123 From Ireland, joined May 2006, 867 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 3 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 14851 times:



Quoting Mk777 (Reply 3):
So SQ has 6, EK has 1, that leaves 5 more that need to be delivered this year, who will get these 5?? Qantas comes to mind!!! besides them, who else?

Well as far as I know, it is 3 to EK and 2 to QF

Quoting Scouseflyer (Reply 2):
The best thing about this is how low key A380 deliveries are starting to become, one today, one tomorrow!

Yeah it is alright. I think though it is a good idea that when a new operator gets it there is a bit of fanfare


User currently offlineNicholaschee From Australia, joined Oct 2005, 661 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 3 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 14748 times:

Quoting Thorben (Reply 4):
Why do they use it to LHR? I always thought that with planes 5 & 6 they'd go for SIN-HKG-SFO.

That was a wild rumour   SQ did hint that USA was next after LHR and people assumed that 5 & 6 would go to USA but SQ didn't announce that LHR was going to be 2x A380.

Anyway it's expected that 7 & 8 will go to US. It's either SIN-NRT-LAX or SIN-HKG-SFO.

[Edited 2008-09-18 05:24:58]

[Edited 2008-09-18 05:25:42]

User currently offlineAustrianZRH From Austria, joined Aug 2007, 1405 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 3 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 14543 times:



Quoting Nicholaschee (Reply 6):
Anyway it's expected that 7 & 8 will go to US. It's either SIN-NRT-LAX or SIN-HKG-SFO.

Wouldn't one more A380 be sufficient for the SIN-NRT-LAX route, as they already fly SIN-NRT-SIN with on of their 388s? Or are 3 aircraft needed for a daily SIN-NRT-LAX?



WARNING! The post above should be taken with a grain of salt! Furthermore, it may be slightly biased towards A.
User currently offlineEBGARN From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 228 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 3 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 14469 times:

There is one thing I wonder... Why can't they start another route with what they already have? Calculating with a generous turn around time of 2-3 hours, they have about 32-36 hours of "idle time" on the combined A380 fleet. Sure, they'd like some safety margins here and there, but why not another route to SYD, or to MEL or PEK? At least they should be able to do a daily to HKG.

Any thoughts on this?



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User currently offlineDocPepz From Singapore, joined May 2001, 1971 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (6 years 3 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 14328 times:



Quoting Tropicalsq744 (Reply 1):
Hmm wasn't SIA beaten by Southwest as largest airline by market cap a few years ago?

It was but with SQ's share price reaching a near all time high a few months ago coupled by a strengthening Singapore Dollar against the USD, SIA has been the largest airline by market cap for a year or so I think.


User currently offlineNorcal773 From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 1450 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (6 years 3 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 13981 times:



Quoting Nicholaschee (Reply 6):
That was a wild rumour SQ did hint that USA was next after LHR and people assumed that 5 & 6 would go to USA but SQ didn't announce that LHR was going to be 2x A380.

It wasn't a rumor. SQ themselves said they'd put the 5th and 6th Whalejets on SQ1/2 to SFO but changed their mind when LHR did great.



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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 11, posted (6 years 3 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 13824 times:



Quoting Norcal773 (Reply 10):
Quoting Nicholaschee (Reply 6):
That was a wild rumour SQ did hint that USA was next after LHR and people assumed that 5 & 6 would go to USA but SQ didn't announce that LHR was going to be 2x A380.

It wasn't a rumor. SQ themselves said they'd put the 5th and 6th Whalejets on SQ1/2 to SFO but changed their mind when LHR did great.

Has adding the Big Beast to the route increase profits and/or taken pax away from the competition?

Also, as mentioned below...

Quoting Nicholaschee (Reply 6):

Anyway it's expected that 7 & 8 will go to US. It's either SIN-NRT-LAX or SIN-HKG-SFO.

Norcal773, we know you like to fly on those B777's but can you say..."fleet change"... duck 



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User currently offlineLordHowe From Finland, joined Jan 2003, 728 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (6 years 3 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 13787 times:

Does anybody know when SYD is getting more of SQ A380s? AFIK they only have one of the total four flights.

Regards,
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User currently offlineAirbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8656 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (6 years 3 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 13678 times:



Quoting EBGARN (Reply 8):
There is one thing I wonder... Why can't they start another route with what they already have? Calculating with a generous turn around time of 2-3 hours, they have about 32-36 hours of "idle time" on the combined A380 fleet.

Don't they have long ground times at both LHR and SYD in order to serve the higher yielding evening departures?


User currently offlineNorcal773 From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 1450 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (6 years 3 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 13355 times:



Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 11):
Has adding the Big Beast to the route increase profits and/or taken pax away from the competition?

There's gotta be a reason why SQ changed their mind, which ca only be positive.

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 11):
Norcal773, we know you like to fly on those B777's but can you say..."fleet change"...

Fleet change on SQ1/2 but not on SQ 15/16 so I am safe with my 77W as long as I stick to SQ15/16.  bigthumbsup 



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User currently offlineMutu From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 538 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 3 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 12198 times:



Quoting Norcal773 (Reply 14):
Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 11):
Has adding the Big Beast to the route increase profits and/or taken pax away from the competition?

Interesting question but I suspect the fairly limited capacity increase (given their A380 seat layout) is just mopping up excess demand on the one stop routings. getting seats on the kangaroo route has always been a problem.

2 stop routes offered by some mid east carriers MAY have seen some drop off as more 1 stop capacity comes on line, but frankly the 2 stop was a slightly cheaper option and still is.


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10930 posts, RR: 37
Reply 16, posted (6 years 3 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 12118 times:

SIA receives 6th Airbus A380

FROM Saturday, Singapore Airlines will operate the Airbus 380 twice a day - up from a daily now - on the Singapore-London route.

This follows the arrival of its sixth superjumbo which landed at Changi Airport on Thursday at 8.23am.

http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking...ngapore/Story/STIStory_279869.html

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User currently offlineOvrpowrd727 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 96 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 3 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 12022 times:

where do these people come from that justifies all these A380's?? the fact that this is actually happening says a lot for SQ, my hats to them...good luck when those airframes age

User currently offlineBluemoonUK From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2000, 105 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 3 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 11847 times:

Well arent the 747 frames ageing? its called progress/evolution,SQ are moving forward with new technology,if they dont then they might end up like Alitalia with an old decrepid fleet and no money.So whilst they are making a nice profit why not invest it into the future well being of the business. I suppose you would like the 747-800 to be a success?
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User currently offlineCol From Malaysia, joined Nov 2003, 2129 posts, RR: 22
Reply 19, posted (6 years 3 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 11463 times:

I think any route they put them on will be a success. They are very quiet and peaceful aeroplanes, wish Boeing had made the 77W that relaxing!!

User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6428 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (6 years 3 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 11399 times:



Quoting Nicholaschee (Reply 6):
Anyway it's expected that 7 & 8 will go to US. It's either SIN-NRT-LAX or SIN-HKG-SFO.

My money's on SQ001/SQ002, SFO-HKG-SIN and return...



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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 21, posted (6 years 3 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 11338 times:



Quoting Norcal773 (Reply 14):

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 11):
Has adding the Big Beast to the route increase profits and/or taken pax away from the competition?

There's gotta be a reason why SQ changed their mind, which ca only be positive.

There are many factors involved.... Wink

Quoting Norcal773 (Reply 14):

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 11):
Norcal773, we know you like to fly on those B777's but can you say..."fleet change"...

Fleet change on SQ1/2 but not on SQ 15/16 so I am safe with my 77W as long as I stick to SQ15/16.  bigthumbsup 

That will probably be switched to an A380 as well.. biggrin ...

Quoting Mutu (Reply 15):
Quoting Norcal773 (Reply 14):
Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 11):
Has adding the Big Beast to the route increase profits and/or taken pax away from the competition?

Interesting question but I suspect the fairly limited capacity increase (given their A380 seat layout) is just mopping up excess demand on the one stop routings. getting seats on the kangaroo route has always been a problem.

It would certainly be interesting to know if the SQ is taking pax away from the competition on A380 flights.. scratchchin 



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User currently offlineTullamarine From Australia, joined Aug 1999, 1638 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (6 years 3 months 3 days ago) and read 10462 times:



Quoting Airbazar (Reply 13):
Don't they have long ground times at both LHR and SYD in order to serve the higher yielding evening departures?

As I understand it the A380 is only in SYD for about 2 hours in the morning. It arrives at 6AM and departs at 7:45AM. Currently there is a 7454 that rests in SYD for about 8 hours.



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User currently offlineDavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7437 posts, RR: 13
Reply 23, posted (6 years 3 months 3 days ago) and read 10378 times:
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Quoting Mutu (Reply 15):
Interesting question but I suspect the fairly limited capacity increase (given their A380 seat layout) is just mopping up excess demand on the one stop routings

And hopefully not going see further MAN erosion by themselves now that a 2nd A380 service will come on stream. Otherwise the only time we'll see SQ at MAN will be on diversion!


User currently offlineKtachiya From Japan, joined Sep 2004, 1805 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (6 years 3 months 3 days ago) and read 10271 times:



Quoting Col (Reply 19):
They are very quiet and peaceful aeroplanes

I agree with this one cruise-wise, but did you check out their landing videos on youtube? I don't know why but almost all the landings seem to be a slam on the ground. I would like to fly on the A380s but only during cruise.

Maybe the pilots are not really used to this as they are with the other types that have been flying for a while?



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25 Astuteman : A 27% increase isn't that small....... (especially for a mid-single digit trip cost increase) It would. IIRC SQ reported this phenomemon early on on
26 DJ748 : Can I correct that - yes, it does arrive early, but it leaves about 3 or 3.30 in the afternoon. I know because I was down there for a day doing some
27 Carpethead : SQ11/12 (SIN-NRT-LAX-NRT-SIN) can be done with two aircraft. The SIN-NRT-SIN is done with a single aircraft.
28 Norcal773 : Huuh? You obviously haven't flown on the 77W. They don't have the capacity to warrant two daily Whalejets to SFO. SQ1/2 will definately go Whalejet b
29 Ovrpowrd727 : indeed, the Boeing example sounds good...but realistically if they see the need and benefits of the airbus why not... no hating going on here, the 74
30 Jacobin777 : Interesting to know.. ..thanks mate.. Kudos to SQ for making a good business decision.. I wonder if they will go back down from B773's to B772's with
31 Ovrpowrd727 : Anybody know about the bags on theses flights, sure the pax loads are warranted but do the bags all fit?? does the plane fit it all or is there some
32 Nicholaschee : Bags will definitely fit. Check this out.
33 Airbazar : My guess is the bags don't mind sitting on eachother's laps and they don't seem to complain too much about leg room.
34 Col : The 77W is one noisy critter. It starts straight after they push back from the gate and start those motors, the Captain should warn the Pax about tho
35 LACA773 : Is there any approximate dates for SQ 1/2 starting with the 388? Does LAX-NRT-SIN do that well to necesitate a 388? Are the loads close to 100%?
36 Astuteman : It would be interesting to know if they're still reporting this phenomenon... It's one of the family. Comfy though, noise aside... Rgds
37 Kaitak744 : I heard that cargo loads at LAX for SQ were quite high. I think the LAX-NRT-SIN may switch to a 777-300ER, which carries almost twice the cargo as an
38 Norcal773 : I gotta agree on the A343, it's the quietest aircraft I've ever been on. I never found the 77W to be that noisy but maybe I compare them to the queen
39 Scouseflyer : Sort of lays to bed the A Net myth that the A380 cannot make any cargo revenue.....
40 Col : Good point. It is quite funny to watch some people's faces when they start the motors though, they are not use to that much vibration. Probably the s
41 Oa260 : Have to say I like the 777 series. I prefer to fly those T/A than the A340/A330 but if there is an A380 in future on the LHR-JFK route id go for it.
42 Jacobin777 : We know how much you LOVE flying on those A343 "RS's"... ....after all, it does run in the family...
43 RayChuang : I think SQ is preparing to start the SQ 001/002 route with the A380 very soon. After all, HKG now has the facilities to support the A388, and Gate G10
44 Oa260 : Any news of FRA getting A380 service?
45 Olympic472 : There may be a slim possibility, only because my sources tell me SIN-NRT-LAX is next. SQ is trying to promote their NRT flights which are barely doin
46 LordHowe : If FRA gets one - will it be SQ26/25 or SQ 326/325? Regards, LordHowe
47 LACA773 : Thanks for the information Kaitak744! I apreciate it. It would be nice to see them utilize the 77Ws out of LAX. It"s still hard to believe the 77W ha
48 Oa260 : Not sure I was under the impression that FRA would get their A380 service after LHR.
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