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AF A380 - Status Of First Flight?  
User currently offlineMattteo From France, joined Feb 2008, 47 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7882 times:

Does anybody know when the 1st A380 for Air France will fly for the first time before going to Hamburg for outfitting?
Thanx a lot.

Regards,

Mattteo

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User currently offlineScouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3386 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7813 times:

The list at http://plane.spottingworld.com/A380_production_list has a delivery date of August next year so my guess is sometime towards the very end of this year or Jan next it should be off to XFW. The gap between engines on, first flight and transfer to XFW is very short now (about a week for the QF bird that is being delivered today).

User currently onlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9770 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 7210 times:



Quoting Scouseflyer (Reply 1):
The gap between engines on, first flight and transfer to XFW is very short now (about a week for the QF bird that is being delivered today).

And interior fitting takes 8 months?!! I still don't understand that so much time is needed to deliver the first A380 to AF. The aircraft to my knowledge was rolled out the factory in TLS without engines in February of this years. What has that aircraft been doing since than? Waiting on engines? For so long?

A388


User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 6927 times:

A388, I don´t the electric gremlins are all ironed out yet, the electric system seem to be the main problem for the A380.

User currently onlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9770 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 6760 times:



Quoting Alessandro (Reply 3):
A388, I don´t the electric gremlins are all ironed out yet, the electric system seem to be the main problem for the A380.

The electric wiring problem was long overcome unless Airbus is lying to all its customers. If each A380 takes the same amount of time as the AF A380 from production to interior fitting to delivery then Emirates will take its 50th A380 in 2040 or something?

A388


User currently offlineMoo From Falkland Islands, joined May 2007, 3912 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 6712 times:



Quoting A388 (Reply 4):

The electric wiring problem was long overcome unless Airbus is lying to all its customers

It is long overcome, but that doesn't mean there are related extensions in build time down the road. Because each airlines aircraft of the initial batch had to be hand wired, the cabins also have to be adapted and tested - this will not be the case with the second batch.

Quoting A388 (Reply 4):
If each A380 takes the same amount of time as the AF A380 from production to interior fitting to delivery then Emirates will take its 50th A380 in 2040 or something?

The cabin fitters are still ramping up with regard to fitting, they have 10 or so aircraft to outfit now.

When all is said and done and the ramping up has happened, the time will be down significantly, as Airbus will be producing 40 a year give or take.


User currently onlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9770 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 6679 times:



Quoting Moo (Reply 5):
It is long overcome, but that doesn't mean there are related extensions in build time down the road. Because each airlines aircraft of the initial batch had to be hand wired, the cabins also have to be adapted and tested - this will not be the case with the second batch.

So the first AF A380 is of the first batch. As from the second batch the A380s will go through the entire production much quicker which means that in this case AF will receive several A380s in the year their first A380 will be handed over due to the quicker production lead time, is this correct?

A388


User currently offlineMoo From Falkland Islands, joined May 2007, 3912 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 6653 times:



Quoting A388 (Reply 6):
is this correct?

Barring any further issues, yes that is correct with one caveat:

Quoting A388 (Reply 6):
As from the second batch the A380s will go through the entire production much quicker which means that in this case AF will receive several A380s in the year their first A380 will be handed over due to the quicker production lead time,

Depends how many airframes AF has in the first batch...


User currently onlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9770 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 6447 times:



Quoting Moo (Reply 7):
Barring any further issues, yes that is correct with one caveat:

Okay, thanks.

Quoting Moo (Reply 7):
Depends how many airframes AF has in the first batch...

Yes of course, I was just illustrating an example to see if I got it right. Thanks again  Smile

A388


User currently offlineYXXMIKE From Canada, joined Apr 2008, 308 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 5777 times:

Is AF planning on doing anything special for the occasion of their first A380 other than the usual over the top party? Is there a new interior style or design that they are going to start using?

User currently offlineNicholaschee From Australia, joined Oct 2005, 661 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 5689 times:

Quoting Moo (Reply 7):
Depends how many airframes AF has in the first batch...


AF's A380s are in the 2nd tranche.

[Edited 2008-09-19 23:14:30]

User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 5093 times:



Quoting A388 (Reply 4):
Quoting Alessandro (Reply 3):
A388, I don´t the electric gremlins are all ironed out yet, the electric system seem to be the main problem for the A380.

The electric wiring problem was long overcome unless Airbus is lying to all its customers. If each A380 takes the same amount of time as the AF A380 from production to interior fitting to delivery then Emirates will take its 50th A380 in 2040 or something?

A388

Every customer seem to have their special interior and wiring, so I assume the first one is the hardest, then you can rely on experience of wiring it?


User currently offlineMattteo From France, joined Feb 2008, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 11 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3708 times:

Thanx a lot for your comments.
Mattteo  Wink


User currently offlineFCKC From France, joined Nov 2004, 2348 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (5 years 11 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3674 times:

The first airlines to have received or will receive A380s , were , are SIA , Emirates , Qantas and Air France.

Who will be the fifth ? Lufthansa ?


User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12424 posts, RR: 25
Reply 14, posted (5 years 11 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3429 times:



Quoting Mattteo (Thread starter):
Does anybody know when the 1st A380 for Air France will fly for the first time before going to Hamburg for outfitting?

It must be soon, they are already leaving the plane outside so it will be dirty enough to fly for AF.

Quoting A388 (Reply 4):
The electric wiring problem was long overcome unless Airbus is lying to all its customers.

The solution is known but implementation is taking longer for each aircraft than planned.



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