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AE DAL-ORD Flights Less Than 50% Full In Aug  
User currently offlineLoneStarMike From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 3826 posts, RR: 33
Posted (6 years 14 hours ago) and read 2883 times:

I was going to post this follow-up in the AE DAL-ORD Nonstop Successful With Wrong Amendment thread, but it archived a couple of days ago.

In that thread, it was noted that AE's loads on this route were between 62% and 63%, which was a lot more than the loads on DAL-AUS, DAL-SAT, DAL-MCI and DAL-STL - routes AE formerly flew from Love Field.

Love Field has now released its' August passenger statistics Doesn't look like AE did as well on this route in August. If they operated a full schedule with no cancellations, there should have been 18,600 available AE seats between DAL & ORD. AE carried 9,032 passengers or about 48.5% of available seats.

Interestingly, Love Fields total traffic was down 1.47% from August 2007. I believe that is the first time DAL has shown a drop in passengers year over year since the Wright Amendment restrictions were relaxed in November 2006. For Aug. 2008, WN managed a very small gain of 0.72%, but this was more than offset by decreases at AE and COEX.

It will be really interesting to see September 2008 totals in about another month or so, not only with regards to AE's routes, but also with regards to DAL's total numbers. (Having HOU closed for several days due to Hurricane Ike will likely have a big impact on DAL's September numbers.)


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User currently offlineFlyby519 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 1143 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 14 hours ago) and read 2841 times:

As for today's loads AE DAL-ORD is scheduled for a 76% load factor and 51% in the reverse direction. Even if AE siphons a few pax a day from SWA that can be the difference between profit and loss on a route.

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User currently offlineTN757Flyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 13 hours ago) and read 2754 times:

I'm sure I'll get flamed for this, but having lived in Dallas for many years including those during the protracted WA battles, Legend Airlines, etc., I firmly believe American really does not want to fly into DAL in as much as they want to keep any competition out. I don't know how the overall business to ORD is, but given the past history of AA's routes from Love, they have all been dropped; likely all unprofitable. Obviously they dropped the 56 seat F100's after Legend folded only to reappear with mainline flight to AUS (maybe SAT I can't recall). Then we had RJ's to those cities plus MCI and STL. The WA "compromise" has always been a joke IMO, but AA will keep those gates simply to stop the JetBlue's and Airtran's in the business from getting a toe-hold at DAL come 2014.

User currently offlineMiller22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 718 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (6 years 13 hours ago) and read 2749 times:

I don't think American is going to be able to unseat Southwest in DAL, especially not with RJ's. It's almost universally accepted that MDW is an easier airport to use if you're going to the Loop. The only real benefit to a passenger choosing AMR out of DAL rather than SWA is the connections downline from ORD.

Each time you connect, you're cutting your yield in half, and with higher yield costs from the RJ, and 50% load factors, I don't see it as a profitable route. Now, whether or not American keeps it up just to keep the thorn in SWA's side is another question entirely.

User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23014 posts, RR: 20
Reply 4, posted (5 years 12 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2404 times:

Quoting Miller22 (Reply 3):
It's almost universally accepted that MDW is an easier airport to use if you're going to the Loop.

...but many Chicago pax (even business pax) are not going to the Loop.

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User currently offlineEXAAUADL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2151 times:

Quoting Miller22 (Reply 3):
I don't think American is going to be able to unseat Southwest in DAL, especially not with RJ's

They arent trying to, They re just having a presence.

All these AA failures at DAL do point to one thing: DFW not DAL is the airport of choice for the metroplex. All this moaning and crying that DAL would siphon off millions if not tens of millions of travelers from DFW is just nonsense

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