SWASFLA From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 79 posts, RR: 0 Posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 9824 times:
I was talking to a friend of mine today who went for an interview with DGS and he was suprised as well as me to find out that DGS employees get flight benefits? Is this true?
DLX737200 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1850 posts, RR: 23 Reply 1, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 9771 times:
Yeah they do but I'm pretty certain they're pretty minimal.
I think they get S3C travel on mainline and OH and S4 travel on everyone else but I think they pay a yield fare. I also don't think their parents get any kind of benefits. Not sure about spouse or children either.
Guess it's better than nothing.
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USPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3266 posts, RR: 8 Reply 2, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 9733 times:
Quoting DLX737200 (Reply 1): Yeah they do but I'm pretty certain they're pretty minimal.
I think they get S3C travel on mainline and OH and S4 travel on everyone else but I think they pay a yield fare. I also don't think their parents get any kind of benefits. Not sure about spouse or children either.
Guess it's better than nothing.
Correct. You also have to pay a yearly fee, just like DL employees do. Yes, spouses are covered as are kids as long as they're on your pass.
EXAAUADL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 3, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 9694 times:
DGS employees dont pay yield fare. They pay teh same as everyone else at DL. They get lower boarding priority. They dont get any ID 90s, or ZEDs. No Skyteam either. I dont think they get buddy passes
USPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3266 posts, RR: 8 Reply 5, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 9645 times:
Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 3): DGS employees dont pay yield fare. They pay teh same as everyone else at DL. They get lower boarding priority. They dont get any ID 90s, or ZEDs. No Skyteam either. I dont think they get buddy passes
Correct. It's still not too bad of a deal, though, as long as you can get on a flight!
DALMD88 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2366 posts, RR: 15 Reply 6, posted (4 years 8 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 9513 times:
Yeah, have fun trying to non rev on a S3C. At least you're ahead of the useless Buddy passes. Out of some cities I find it tough on a S3B with ten years senority.
ZWZWUnited From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 197 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (4 years 8 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 9403 times:
Crap, we don't get diddly-squat for ground handling (Yea yea, I know, we get US, but they don't even fly to our airport!) and our pass bureau is a freaking joke.
Mayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 9196 posts, RR: 14 Reply 8, posted (4 years 8 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 9394 times:
Quoting DALMD88 (Reply 6): Yeah, have fun trying to non rev on a S3C. At least you're ahead of the useless Buddy passes. Out of some cities I find it tough on a S3B with ten years senority.
Try flying as a retiree with 33+ years on an S3B.
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SWASFLA From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 79 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (4 years 8 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 9332 times:
Quoting Mayor (Reply 8): Try flying as a retiree with 33+ years on an S3B.
Quoting DALMD88 (Reply 6):
Yeah, have fun trying to non rev on a S3C. At least you're ahead of the useless Buddy passes. Out of some cities I find it tough on a S3B with ten years senority
Why does everyone make non-reving sound so horrible. Granted I don't have 33 years or even ten. I have 7 to be exact and I have non-reved on every major airline and all the LCC's and I have only been bumped off of a couple FL flights and a couple B6 flights. Other than that I have never had a problem with DL, US and WN.
Mayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 9196 posts, RR: 14 Reply 10, posted (4 years 8 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 9321 times:
Quoting SWASFLA (Reply 9): Why does everyone make non-reving sound so horrible. Granted I don't have 33 years or even ten. I have 7 to be exact and I have non-reved on every major airline and all the LCC's and I have only been bumped off of a couple FL flights and a couple B6 flights. Other than that I have never had a problem with DL, US and WN.
You've been very lucky, my friend. Before, I retired, I had very few incidents where I was bumped off, but, I DID have them. Since I've retired, it's been iffy, every time. With the advent of internet sales and last minute upgrades, it even makes it difficult to plan for a trip, at least in my mind.
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Dispatchguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1185 posts, RR: 2 Reply 11, posted (4 years 8 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 9308 times:
Current DGS working at the DL OCC in ATL...
We do pay the 50 for the pass activation, S3C and S4, but so far, so good. No buddy passes, but no big deal, if I need some, I can hit up some mainline employees for theirs if they arent using them, I know one employee with about 18 years seniority that never uses the buddy pass, so I can hit him up for some without a problem.
Spouses and kids are on your pass at your boarding priority. I dont need ID90s or ZEDs. We still have access into Delta TravelNet here at home, so I can see loads and lists just like a mainline DL employee.
Acidradio From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1855 posts, RR: 10 Reply 12, posted (4 years 8 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 9304 times:
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With the low payrates, harsh working conditions and tremendous workload, what is the point of working for an airline if you don't at least get decent non-rev benefits? That is the whole point of an airline job!
I recently left the industry after many years. At first I thought it would be tough, but after leaving my mind has been cleared. I make much more money at my new job and can afford to buy a ticket now and then when I need to go somewhere
USPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3266 posts, RR: 8 Reply 13, posted (4 years 8 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 9241 times:
Quoting Acidradio (Reply 12): With the low payrates, harsh working conditions and tremendous workload, what is the point of working for an airline if you don't at least get decent non-rev benefits? That is the whole point of an airline job!
It's precisely that these days. A job. Not a career. I came back to DGS late last year hoping things had changed a little bit, but no dice. Better relationships with the employees and management, but other than that, the same. High-turnover, low-wage jobs are never the answer. I'm preparing to go back to school myself, for medical coding and billing.
KaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12027 posts, RR: 43 Reply 14, posted (4 years 8 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 9213 times:
Quoting Acidradio (Reply 12): I recently left the industry after many years. At first I thought it would be tough, but after leaving my mind has been cleared. I make much more money at my new job and can afford to buy a ticket now and then when I need to go somewhere Smile
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Higherflyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 128 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (4 years 8 months 6 days ago) and read 9120 times:
Quoting Mayor (Reply 10):
Quoting SWASFLA (Reply 9):
Why does everyone make non-reving sound so horrible. Granted I don't have 33 years or even ten. I have 7 to be exact and I have non-reved on every major airline and all the LCC's and I have only been bumped off of a couple FL flights and a couple B6 flights. Other than that I have never had a problem with DL, US and WN.
You've been very lucky, my friend. Before, I retired, I had very few incidents where I was bumped off, but, I DID have them. Since I've retired, it's been iffy, every time. With the advent of internet sales and last minute upgrades, it even makes it difficult to plan for a trip, at least in my mind.
I worked for a DCI carrier for a number of years with that great S3C (translation-- just above buddy pass) priority. I can count on one hand (using one finger) the number of times that my family and I weren't able to get where we needed/wanted to be the day we wanted to be there. The one time we had problems, we made it home about noon the following morning instead of at 8PM the previous night.
When we travelled, we always made sure we had backup plans and adjusted to earlier or later flights but never were stranded. Sometimes we made connections, but we travelled in the peak seasons (kids in school will cause you to do that) and went to popular destinations-- Mexico/Caribbean/Hawaii/Europe over spring break, Christmas, summer....
You just have to be a little flexible and the S3C stuff works pretty well-- and they are mostly free! Good luck and have fun!
Mayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 9196 posts, RR: 14 Reply 16, posted (4 years 8 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 9053 times:
Quoting Higherflyer (Reply 15): I worked for a DCI carrier for a number of years with that great S3C (translation-- just above buddy pass) priority. I can count on one hand (using one finger) the number of times that my family and I weren't able to get where we needed/wanted to be the day we wanted to be there. The one time we had problems, we made it home about noon the following morning instead of at 8PM the previous night.
When we travelled, we always made sure we had backup plans and adjusted to earlier or later flights but never were stranded. Sometimes we made connections, but we travelled in the peak seasons (kids in school will cause you to do that) and went to popular destinations-- Mexico/Caribbean/Hawaii/Europe over spring break, Christmas, summer....
I think it also makes a difference in where you are going and where you're coming from. When I worked in SLC, it was pretty easy, but now retired in FSM, my options are very, very limited, especially as they keep reducing or eliminating service at some of my optional cities like TUL and XNA. It's fine if I want to go east but if I want to go west, it gets difficult.
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Acidradio From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1855 posts, RR: 10 Reply 17, posted (4 years 8 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 8943 times:
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Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 14): Your name is still on a locker in the A7 breakroom Smile
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I will give the airlines credit - these jobs taught me how to handle just about anything under the most brutal conditions. There is nothing like getting a flight out on time when your hands and feet are frozen solid, you just got jetblasted by a turning 757 in -20°F and you have last-minute things to deal with, all with 3 minutes left on the clock.
Higherflyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 128 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (4 years 8 months 5 days ago) and read 8854 times:
Quoting Mayor (Reply 16): I think it also makes a difference in where you are going and where you're coming from.
Absolutely correct. We live in Atlanta-- giving us a lot of flexibility and options. We have looked at moving down to the beach, but I keep thinking about what a pain it would be to have to try to Atlanta before we could really start a trip. That and an issue of not wanting to commute to work puts a stop to that idea for the moment.
Getting into TUL, XNA, LIT with all of the RJ's on the routes now would be a real problem!
Crj200faguy From United States of America, joined May 2007, 385 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (4 years 8 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 8772 times:
I can hardly wait to experience the steerage level boarding code I'm gonna get when we become a DCI carrier.
KaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12027 posts, RR: 43 Reply 20, posted (4 years 8 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 8753 times:
COTPARampGuy From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 204 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (4 years 8 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8692 times:
I've never had any problems flying S3C. The only time i've ever missed a flight is because the one after it went mechanical and those passengers were transferred to the once wide open flight so I left 1 hour late on an RJ. I still made my connection in ATL so no big deal.
CRJ200FAGuy From United States of America, joined May 2007, 385 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (4 years 8 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 8539 times:
N766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 7992 posts, RR: 27 Reply 24, posted (4 years 8 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 8529 times:
Quoting DALMD88 (Reply 6): Yeah, have fun trying to non rev on a S3C. At least you're ahead of the useless Buddy passes
I went to Europe 8 times, all in business class, on S3C priority. In fact, of the roughly 100 flights I took when I worked at DGS, I was only ever bumped off 2.
DGS treats their employees like crap, but I'll never complain about the flight bennies. They were far better than when I was a kid and flew on my parent's CAL passes.
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25 Mayor: Depends who's metal it's on. If I'm flying on OO, I believe they fly ahead of DL retirees.....they are S3C and I'm S3CR. Please correct me if I'm wro
26 Malaysia: DGS supervisors and management get Full DL benefits, all ZEDS ID90s, Skyteam, and S3 status and parents of DGS management gets S3B so they can go abo
27 Mayor: In the past, I always had to use my DL corporate ID to travel. The airport ID is useless for that. Nowadays, I can't even use my retiree ID as they wa