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LGA To Receive KC-135 Tanker For Kids Day Saturday  
User currently offlineGothamSpotter From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 586 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2818 times:

For the first time ever, a USAF KC-135 will visit LaGuardia Airport as part of the annual March of Dimes Kids Day event, this Saturday, Sept. 27th. This might be only the second time a 4-engined widebody jet has visited LGA, the previous time is believed to have been the 707 that delivered RFK's body in 1968.

The KC-135 will join a pair of F/A-18s, a New York Air National Guard C-130 (equipped with skis for polar ops), Delta and American will have MD-80s open for tours, and US will offer an A319, possibly one of the special paint scheme birds. A number of warbirds will also be on display, including the GEICO Skytypers and some P-51s and P-40s.

The event is open to all, not just kids, from 12pm to 4pm. The spotters over at NYCAviation have an ongoing thread with event details and ongoing event feature updates, and of course photos after the event.

LGA Kids Day 2008 [NYCAviation.com]

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User currently offlineUnited_fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7453 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2714 times:



Quoting GothamSpotter (Thread starter):
his might be only the second time a 4-engined widebody jet has visited LGA, the previous time is believed to have been the 707 that delivered RFK's body in 1968.

Well,a 707 is a narrow-body..Cool,none the less.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24868 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2597 times:



Quoting United_fan (Reply 1):
Quoting GothamSpotter (Thread starter):
his might be only the second time a 4-engined widebody jet has visited LGA, the previous time is believed to have been the 707 that delivered RFK's body in 1968.

Well,a 707 is a narrow-body.

As is the KC-135 which has a narrower fuselage than the 707.


User currently offlineGothamspotter From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 586 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2544 times:

You're right, I meant first full-size 4-holer, as opposed to, say, a BAE-146.

User currently offlineRwy04LGA From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 3176 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2367 times:

When is it scheduled to arrive at LGA. I want to film it landing (from the ramp).  Big grin


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User currently offlineVtnyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 277 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 10 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2199 times:

This event is cancelled as per nycaviation.com


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User currently offlineRwy04LGA From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 3176 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (5 years 10 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2172 times:

Damn! I was all prepared to videotape this beauty coming in!


Just accept that some days, you're the pigeon, and other days the statue
User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5890 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (5 years 10 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2092 times:
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Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 2):
As is the KC-135 which has a narrower fuselage than the 707.

That's not true. The fuselage barrel of the KC-135 is exactly the same profile as the 707, 737, 727 and 757.

The KC-135 is shorter than they your 707. Had the KC-135 fuselage been in commercial service, then it would have been the 717.

Where is the KC-135 coming from? Kansas?


User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (5 years 10 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2072 times:

Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 7):
That's not true. The fuselage barrel of the KC-135 is exactly the same profile as the 707, 737, 727 and 757

Incorrect. The KC has a narrower fuselage.

The KC-135 is derived from the original Boeing jet transport "proof of concept" demonstrator, the Boeing 367-80 (commonly called the "Dash-80"). As such, it has a narrower fuselage and is shorter than the Boeing 707 jetliner. Boeing gave the tanker the designation of Model 717

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KC-135_Stratotanker


Note: The Model 717 differs primarily from the Model 707 by having a smaller-diameter fuselage,

http://www.theaviationzone.com/factsheets/kc135.asp


The 717/KC-135 upper lobe is 144 inches wide and the height is 168
inches.

3) The 707 upper lobe is 148 inches wide and the height is 170.5 inches.
http://yarchive.net/air/airliners/kc135_707.html

Although many people have described the KC-135 as a military version of the Boeing 707 airliner they are actually two totally different aircraft although they are both developments of the Boeing model 367-80. When compared with the 707 the KC-135 is a shorter, narrower, smaller aircraft. A tanker version of the aircraft, the KC-135, was built in large numbers for the USAF; and the Airborne Warning and Control System aircraft (AWACS).
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/b707.htm

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 22):
Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 21):
What?? how is that possible? Aren't the KC-135s simply old passenger 707s (or 720s), simply refurbished and reengined?

No, the KC-135 was built before the B-707-100s were. The KC-135 does carry the Boeing designation of B-717-100, making it confusion. The B-707 has a wider fuselarge than the KC-135. There are no old B-707s that were converted to KC-135s. All KC-135s were new builds.

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...earchid=63085&s=kc-135+707#ID63085


[Edited 2008-09-26 19:30:33]

[Edited 2008-09-26 19:32:37]

[Edited 2008-09-26 19:47:07]

User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (5 years 10 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2041 times:



Quoting GothamSpotter (Thread starter):
US will offer an A319, possibly one of the special paint scheme

Seeing as how this will be in NYC, I doubt it will be the "Philadelphia Eagles" special livery. . silly   wink 

Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 7):
Where is the KC-135 coming from? Kansas?

My best guess would be McGuire AFB since McGuire has KC-135s. Whether they're Air Force KC-135s or New Jersey Air National Guard birds I do not know. But with the Air Force - who knows where it's coming from.


User currently offlineMoose135 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2301 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (5 years 10 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1996 times:



Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 8):
Airborne Warning and Control System aircraft (AWACS)

Oh, you were so close. All the info about the KC-135 you posted was correct, however the E-3 AWACS actually is based on the 707 airframe. And yes, the KC that was going to come to LGA would have come out of McGuire.



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User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5890 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (5 years 10 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1988 times:
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Ok...DTWClipper...I stand corrected, sorry Viscount724 for incorrectly rebutting your statement. But I know that the E-3A's are based off the the 707-300's. The same goes with the Tacamo's (E-6's) and Joint Star aircraft.

I would imagine that the RC-135 Rivet Joints are probably based off of the smaller model, then.


User currently offlineMoose135 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2301 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (5 years 10 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1900 times:



Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 11):
I would imagine that the RC-135 Rivet Joints are probably based off of the smaller model, then.

Yes, all the -135 variants are based on the same airframe. The USAF designation for the 707 airframe is the C-137 (except specialty aircraft like the E-3 or E-6).



KC-135 - Passing gas and taking names!
User currently offlineStar_world From Ireland, joined Jun 2001, 1234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 10 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1892 times:

Visibility in NYC is <1 mile this afternoon - not very surprised this got canceled!

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