GothamSpotter From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 586 posts, RR: 0 Posted (4 years 8 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2171 times:
For the first time ever, a USAF KC-135 will visit LaGuardia Airport as part of the annual March of Dimes Kids Day event, this Saturday, Sept. 27th. This might be only the second time a 4-engined widebody jet has visited LGA, the previous time is believed to have been the 707 that delivered RFK's body in 1968.
The KC-135 will join a pair of F/A-18s, a New York Air National Guard C-130 (equipped with skis for polar ops), Delta and American will have MD-80s open for tours, and US will offer an A319, possibly one of the special paint scheme birds. A number of warbirds will also be on display, including the GEICO Skytypers and some P-51s and P-40s.
The event is open to all, not just kids, from 12pm to 4pm. The spotters over at NYCAviation have an ongoing thread with event details and ongoing event feature updates, and of course photos after the event.
United_fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7160 posts, RR: 8 Reply 1, posted (4 years 8 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2067 times:
Quoting GothamSpotter (Thread starter): his might be only the second time a 4-engined widebody jet has visited LGA, the previous time is believed to have been the 707 that delivered RFK's body in 1968.
Well,a 707 is a narrow-body..Cool,none the less.
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Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21495 posts, RR: 24 Reply 2, posted (4 years 8 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1950 times:
Quoting United_fan (Reply 1): Quoting GothamSpotter (Thread starter):
his might be only the second time a 4-engined widebody jet has visited LGA, the previous time is believed to have been the 707 that delivered RFK's body in 1968.
Well,a 707 is a narrow-body.
As is the KC-135 which has a narrower fuselage than the 707.
Gothamspotter From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 586 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (4 years 8 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1897 times:
You're right, I meant first full-size 4-holer, as opposed to, say, a BAE-146.
Dtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (4 years 8 months 12 hours ago) and read 1425 times:
Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 7): That's not true. The fuselage barrel of the KC-135 is exactly the same profile as the 707, 737, 727 and 757
Incorrect. The KC has a narrower fuselage.
The KC-135 is derived from the original Boeing jet transport "proof of concept" demonstrator, the Boeing 367-80 (commonly called the "Dash-80"). As such, it has a narrower fuselage and is shorter than the Boeing 707 jetliner. Boeing gave the tanker the designation of Model 717
Although many people have described the KC-135 as a military version of the Boeing 707 airliner they are actually two totally different aircraft although they are both developments of the Boeing model 367-80. When compared with the 707 the KC-135 is a shorter, narrower, smaller aircraft. A tanker version of the aircraft, the KC-135, was built in large numbers for the USAF; and the Airborne Warning and Control System aircraft (AWACS). http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/b707.htm
Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 22): Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 21):
What?? how is that possible? Aren't the KC-135s simply old passenger 707s (or 720s), simply refurbished and reengined?
No, the KC-135 was built before the B-707-100s were. The KC-135 does carry the Boeing designation of B-717-100, making it confusion. The B-707 has a wider fuselarge than the KC-135. There are no old B-707s that were converted to KC-135s. All KC-135s were new builds.
My best guess would be McGuire AFB since McGuire has KC-135s. Whether they're Air Force KC-135s or New Jersey Air National Guard birds I do not know. But with the Air Force - who knows where it's coming from.
Moose135 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2009 posts, RR: 12 Reply 10, posted (4 years 8 months 9 hours ago) and read 1349 times:
Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 8): Airborne Warning and Control System aircraft (AWACS)
Oh, you were so close. All the info about the KC-135 you posted was correct, however the E-3 AWACS actually is based on the 707 airframe. And yes, the KC that was going to come to LGA would have come out of McGuire.
Wedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5532 posts, RR: 5 Reply 11, posted (4 years 8 months 9 hours ago) and read 1341 times:
Ok...DTWClipper...I stand corrected, sorry Viscount724 for incorrectly rebutting your statement. But I know that the E-3A's are based off the the 707-300's. The same goes with the Tacamo's (E-6's) and Joint Star aircraft.
I would imagine that the RC-135 Rivet Joints are probably based off of the smaller model, then.
Moose135 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2009 posts, RR: 12 Reply 12, posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1253 times:
Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 11): I would imagine that the RC-135 Rivet Joints are probably based off of the smaller model, then.
Yes, all the -135 variants are based on the same airframe. The USAF designation for the 707 airframe is the C-137 (except specialty aircraft like the E-3 or E-6).
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