TK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4114 posts, RR: 13 Posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4902 times:
During my latest transcon; JFK-LAX on a CO 752, I was checking out some new albums on the AVOD.
When I heard the lyrics; "Visions crash... Planes crash..."
I thought this was a poor choice of a song on in-flight selection, don't you think?
Funny thing the compilation is called "The Ultimate Chill-out", and name of the song is "World on Fire".
Strange, very strange..
EWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5522 posts, RR: 57 Reply 1, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4871 times:
Let CO know. Chances are the people that are in charge of music selection don't go through every song's lyrics.
VgnAtl747 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 1492 posts, RR: 2 Reply 2, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4871 times:
First of all, great album!
Secondly, I think this is a bit of an overreaction. I suppose some people could argue that airlines should sensor or screen everything for anything that could possibly imply a crash or incident, but I think that's a bit overkill.
This is just one fellow's opinion, but I would hope the general public has enough common sense to differentiate between a song lyric and a real life event.
Tpaewr From United States of America, joined May 2001, 440 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4860 times:
It is a great song by Sarah Mc lachlan. The Junkie XL mix is amazing.
EWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5522 posts, RR: 57 Reply 4, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4842 times:
Quoting VgnAtl747 (Reply 2): I suppose some people could argue that airlines should sensor or screen everything for anything that could possibly imply a crash or incident
They already do. CNN airport news rarely, if ever, show news related to airplane/airline crashes. CO, for one, also won't distribute newspapers where there is a crash (w/photos) of an airliner. If you bring your own, that is one thing, but CO won't offer it.
VgnAtl747 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 1492 posts, RR: 2 Reply 5, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4791 times:
Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 4): They already do. CNN airport news rarely, if ever, show news related to airplane/airline crashes. CO, for one, also won't distribute newspapers where there is a crash (w/photos) of an airliner. If you bring your own, that is one thing, but CO won't offer it.
Maybe I should have worded it differently. While many of them do, I for one don't expect them to. I can see where for service reasons, or otherwise, they would, but to take several words out of a song lyric and imply that the airline should have done something about it, to me is an over reaction. But then again I love music and understand that lyrics are just that, lyrics.
Quoting Tpaewr (Reply 3): The Junkie XL mix is amazing.
VgnAtl747 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 1492 posts, RR: 2 Reply 6, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4785 times:
@EWRCabincrew -- I see you're a purser for CO...
I'm on the 777 service EWR-LHR at the beginning of November... never been on a CO 777--very much looking forward to another great trip with your airline!
EWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5522 posts, RR: 57 Reply 7, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4773 times:
Quoting VgnAtl747 (Reply 5): but to take several words out of a song lyric and imply that the airline should have done something about it, to me is an over reaction
TK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4114 posts, RR: 13 Reply 9, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4621 times:
Must be tired. I stand corrected EWR-LAX.
Sure it is a great album, just caught me by surprise. Nothing to write to CO about, just wanted to share here.
AA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5381 posts, RR: 11 Reply 10, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4470 times:
I don't know, guys.
I'm a die-hard CO fan, but still... odd choice. It's like showing the move "Snakes on a Plane"... ON A PLANE.
Movies and songs about airplanes don't mix too well with airplanes, IMO.
AirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 26 Reply 11, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4443 times:
Does CO screen every single newspaper in the country on a daily basis? How does that work? That seems like A LOT of newspapers to screen each day.
A Safe Flight Begins With Quality Maintenance On The Ground.
RW170 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 430 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4373 times:
Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 4): CNN airport news rarely, if ever, show news related to airplane/airline crashes.
I've also heard that the CNN Airport Network also runs on a 30 second or so delay in order to change the program if any breaking news about a plane crash pops up. Not sure if that's true or not. Interesting, though.
Whappeh From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1560 posts, RR: 2 Reply 13, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4333 times:
So now when you're on an airplane you can't alude to the fact that it could crash? Give me a break. I was flying jetBlue a few months ago, and NatGeo had an Air Disaster marathon, and I watched in the whole flight. Great show.
EWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5522 posts, RR: 57 Reply 14, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4275 times:
Quoting Whappeh (Reply 13): So now when you're on an airplane you can't alude to the fact that it could crash?
Whappeh From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1560 posts, RR: 2 Reply 15, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4232 times:
Is he not implying that the lyrics "Visions crash... Planes crash..." are bad because its refering to an airplane crash? I don't get how this is a "bad choice".
UN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4286 posts, RR: 5 Reply 16, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4166 times:
what about lucy in the sky with diamonds as ExpressJet boarding music? :P
EWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5522 posts, RR: 57 Reply 17, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4154 times:
Quoting Whappeh (Reply 15): Is he not implying that the lyrics "Visions crash... Planes crash..." are bad because its refering to an airplane crash?
He may be, I don't know him or the reason for his lyrics, but those lyrics don't
Quoting Whappeh (Reply 13): alude to the fact that it could crash
They are what they are.
The original poster was just stating an opinion, not a blanket statement that
Quoting Whappeh (Reply 13): So now when you're on an airplane you can't alude to the fact that it could crash
I agree with you, I'd be watching 'Seconds from Disaster' or 'Air Emergency' the whole time too.
If you don't like it, don't watch. What if you are offended by what is being shown on the next screen over?
KLASM83 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 587 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4154 times:
MEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4124 posts, RR: 37 Reply 19, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4127 times:
Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 11): Does CO screen every single newspaper in the country on a daily basis? How does that work? That seems like A LOT of newspapers to screen each day.
They will probably miss a background article on page 6 on plane crashes, but after a major crash, say something on the magnitude of the AA 587 or TWA 800, on top level it's decided to stop distributing newspapers for a day or two.
nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
EWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5522 posts, RR: 57 Reply 20, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4101 times:
Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 11): Does CO screen every single newspaper in the country on a daily basis? How does that work? That seems like A LOT of newspapers to screen each day.
No, just the ones that they have available for distribution (P CLubs, onboard, etc.). It is just a few titles anyway (Houston Chronicle, NYTimes, WSJ to name a few). As for what people bring on the plane, feel free to bring whatever.
PagoFlyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 81 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2898 times:
We try to avoid any waiting area that has that loud CNN Airport Network. And some people will look at that for an hour or so.....the audio is waaay tooo loud. I've sent letters to Hartsfield and they reply they'll turn it down...but?
Aogdesk From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 933 posts, RR: 4 Reply 22, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2858 times:
I don't think its strange at all.....
Should they ban Steve Miller's "Jet Airliner" because of the lyrics "Big ole Jet Airliner, don't carry me too far away?
The case could be made that passengers could be spooked by the prospect of a jet overflying an airport because the crew was sleeping and didn't hear the ATC calls, hence "carrying them too far away".
BriGuyinHou From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 122 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2165 times:
Maybe the lyrics were "visions crash, plains crash" as in a great area of flat land.
I've travelled the world and the seven seas. Everybody is looking for something.
UN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4286 posts, RR: 5 Reply 24, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2148 times:
It's not They actually play the Beatles version about LSD on ExpressJet flights (CoEx). I can't believe noone's complained about it.
What now?
25 B6MoneyGuyJFK: Maybe they can substitute that song with Alanis Morrisette's "Isn't it Ironic"
26 Tpaewr: Personally, I think that mix has an urgency that suits the songs lyrics better than the album version. Oh, thanks for the heads up, off to check out
27 SkyGirl: Nice! I've heard strange things on the boarding music playlist. The Alfred Hitchcock theme, Springtime for Hitler, and most recently the background m