Cumulus From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 1402 posts, RR: 1 Posted (4 years 8 months 4 hours ago) and read 12610 times:
There have often been posts about 5B-DAB which was destroyed at Nicosia during the kickoff between the Turks and the Greeks in Cyprus in 1974 and has sat there ever since.
Just been looking at the airport on Google Earth, would this aircraft showing be the same one? Two engines are clearly visible at the tail end, but I can't see if it's a Tri-Jet or not!!
BCAL From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 3384 posts, RR: 18 Reply 2, posted (4 years 8 months 2 hours ago) and read 12356 times:
Looking at this general arrangement drawing of the Trident, it does not seem to bear much resemblance to the aircraft in the photo, so I do not think it could be 5B-DAB.
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RussianJet From Kazakhstan, joined Jul 2007, 6276 posts, RR: 23 Reply 10, posted (4 years 8 months ago) and read 11976 times:
Quoting Cumulus (Reply 6): There is Ercan just to the East (abandoned Nicosia is to the West). Don't know if it Military or not though!!
Seeing as it's in an area of occupied land we don't recognise as a country, I think we can discount Ercan. Such a shame to see such a large airfield just abandoned like that in Nicosia.
Khobar From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2379 posts, RR: 4 Reply 12, posted (4 years 8 months ago) and read 11864 times:
Quoting BCAL (Reply 2): Looking at this general arrangement drawing of the Trident, it does not seem to bear much resemblance to the aircraft in the photo, so I do not think it could be 5B-DAB.
What looks different enough for you to say there isn't much resemblance?
Ankaraflyjet From Turkey, joined Mar 2007, 225 posts, RR: 1 Reply 16, posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 11676 times:
Nicosia (Greek Side) lacks an airport and hopefully with a long expected resolution to the Cyprus dispute the old Nicosia Airport will be refurbished and opened to air traffic. Ercan is served by KTHY Cyprus Turkish Airlines (YK) as well as TK and some other Turkish carriers. After the resolution the expected carriers to ECN are BA, LH and various Middle Eastern carriers as the first commers and several UK LCC's.
YK is also going to have to reorganize itself as it is not doing very well at present.
On the other side of the island; CY will most likely start IST as their first Turkish destination. Before the divison of the island CY served both IST (Istanbul) and ESB (Ankara) in Turkey. This was done initally by BEA as extension of the London-Milan-Athens-Istanbul-Ankara flight to Nicosia and later on Tel Aviv was added as the last leg of the flight. Intially by Viking later on by COMET jet aircrafts of BEA. The Istanbul-Ankara-Nicosia segment operated by BEA under CY code. After establishment of Republic of Cyprus CY had its own metal to fly to Ankara and Istanbul and BEA flights from London terminated at Ankara.
Smcmac32msn From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 5 Reply 17, posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 11677 times:
Quoting BCAL (Reply 2): Looking at this general arrangement drawing of the Trident, it does not seem to bear much resemblance to the aircraft in the photo, so I do not think it could be 5B-DAB.
I think it is 5B-DAB, if you look at the ground, it matches on the left wing (discolor of the tarmac). There is a shadow on the aft portion just forward of the tail for the #2 engine. The swept back wings, and the swept back tail. I'm guessing it is 5B-DAB as the only other plane that is there is very small and broken up.
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Oa260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 24889 posts, RR: 60 Reply 18, posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 11627 times:
Quoting Ankaraflyjet (Reply 16): Nicosia (Greek Side) lacks an airport and hopefully with a long expected resolution to the Cyprus dispute the old Nicosia Airport will be refurbished and opened to air traffic. Ercan is served by KTHY Cyprus Turkish Airlines (YK) as well as TK and some other Turkish carriers. After the resolution the expected carriers to ECN are BA, LH and various Middle Eastern carriers as the first commers and several UK LCC's.
Yes fingers crossed. It would be great to see NIC re built and serve both communities.
Quoting Ankaraflyjet (Reply 16): CY will most likely start IST as their first Turkish destination.
Yes and it would be a great day. I think that if NIC was to be opened that ECN would become less attractive. International carriers would want to use NIC for the wider scope of passengers it would attract. LCA and ECN would eventually go. That is around 10 years down the line though even if the Island got a solution tomorrow. It would be a fantastic project to start off the reunification process. I think it would be nice to put 5B-DAB into some sort of museum , its history and unique.
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Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21464 posts, RR: 24 Reply 19, posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 11622 times:
Quoting Smcmac32msn (Reply 17): Quoting BCAL (Reply 2):
Looking at this general arrangement drawing of the Trident, it does not seem to bear much resemblance to the aircraft in the photo, so I do not think it could be 5B-DAB.
I think it is 5B-DAB
Yes it is. A little research will confirm that it's the only relatively intact CY Trident at NIC. Another (5B-DAE) was completely destroyed.
Cumulus From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 1402 posts, RR: 1 Reply 21, posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 11533 times:
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 19): Yes it is. A little research will confirm that it's the only relatively intact CY Trident at NIC. Another (5B-DAE) was completely destroyed.
PanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 10 Reply 22, posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 11472 times:
With the recent reopening of Ledra Street between the two communities of Nicosia, I am hopeful that Nicosia airport will one day be re-opened.
The airport is of decent size, and although in tremendous disrepair, the facilities might be salvageable, should the opportunity ever arise to re-start services.
I can't really comment on who is right and who is wrong in the whole Cyprus situation, but I can say that pig-headed prejudiced bigots on both sides keep battles such as this going to the detriment of all. I realize that the root causes of the division go back many hundreds of years, but basing everything in life around a dislike for your neighbors really should go the way of the dinosaur. To paraphrase Mark Twain, travelling and meeting new people - and spending money in a foreign country - is absolutely fatal to hatred and bigotry.
As for the Trident itself, what a great museum piece that would make!! Anyone know what its last flight was?
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Oa260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 24889 posts, RR: 60 Reply 23, posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 11460 times:
Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 22): The airport is of decent size, and although in tremendous disrepair, the facilities might be salvageable, should the opportunity ever arise to re-start services
They will never salvage it. The new airport would have to be brand new built with top class facilities. Due to the geographical position it would be a good hub if they planned it right.
Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 22): I can't really comment on who is right and who is wrong in the whole Cyprus situation,
Both were right and both were wrong. There are sad stories on both sides. I have heard them first hand from my Greek Cypriot and Turkish Cypriot friends. Times have changed and its time to draw a line and get on.
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Smcmac32msn From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 5 Reply 24, posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 11440 times:
Quoting Cumulus (Reply 21): This may have been where it was destroyed, although the A.Net photo shows the wreckage by runway threshold markings which aren't on the GE image.
Wonder if they had some different markings on that tarmac, if you look close, the curve in both pictures matches the general area to where it is. I realize it might just be an end of runway turnoff, but its still possible.
EDIT: After looking at NIC, I don't see where this could be on a runway that would match. The runway markings on 32 are way offset from any turnoff, the markings for 14 are "behind" a turnoff and not in front as they appear in the John Higgins picture. Runway 8 is the same as 14. Runway 26 is a back-taxi runway with no turnoffs where it would curve out as such. Correction, it might have laid about 325m up runway 32 from the displaced threshold, there is a touchdown mark and taxiway in that configuration right there.
[Edited 2008-09-24 10:25:10]
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25 BCAL: To the naked eye (but using a magnifying glass on an enlarged photo might reveal otherwise) it looks to me as though the shape of the wings is differ
26 Alitis: Slightly off topic, if my memory is correct, isn't there also a trident at SKG just west of the terminal on the grass? Maybe one of our Greek friends
27 Cumulus: If I could find the Airport on Google Earth I'd look, can't find it anywhere!!
28 Cumulus: Found it, God I'm useless!! Could this be it? Looks suitably derelict, but like DAB can't see if it's a Tri-Jet again!
29 Ollyhuk: I was always led to believe that it would be difficult to re-open Nicosia due to the large amount of High Rise building that has happened at the East
31 UPS707: You got me curious, so I had to go poke around. Looks like your bird is a Caravelle, but there is also a Tu-154 sitting out there not doing much a li
32 Oa260: Yes I got a pic of it on my first ever TR. I thought it was a Caravelle. http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...earchid=94189&s=lx+dub+skg#ID94189
33 Irish251: In the photo of the destroyed 5B-DAE you can see the runway VASIs in the background (the three box-shaped items), which means that it was on the runwa
34 JetJeanes: Why the razor wire around the trident,,,,, i dont think anyone plans on takeing it anywhere...
35 Vfw614: I assume that you mean that Nicosia pretty much would replace Larnaca - or are you suggesting that such services would be on top of the existing serv
36 Ankaraflyjet: I understand your point as LCA being the gateway to the island but due to UK Cyprus relations and the number of Greek and Turkish Cypriots in the UK,
37 MIAMIx707: Wow a Trident... Is it possible to go there to see it or is the area off limits?
38 OA260: It would be the obvious option and I have heard it many times over the years. The only other option I heard of was to build housing for refugees but
39 Vfw614: The issue I was going to raise is whether there is really a need to rebuilt Nicosia airport in the future as the island already has Larnaca, Paphos an
40 BrusselsSouth: There are two trip reports on this site which include Ercan airport : http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/trip_reports/read.main/35798 http://ww
44 BCAL: According to the Trident website G-ASWV became 9K-ACG and was transferred to and operated by Kuwait Airways. The aircraft was written off following a
45 Cumulus: Sorry, my mistake! http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/HistoricalMaterial/G-ASWU.pdf
46 CYatUK: Guys, sorry to disappoint you both but Cyprus Government has stated many times that given the housing development of the greater Nicosia area, NIC wi
47 PanAm747: According to someone's posting at http://www.wikimapia.org , there is a brand new terminal being built at Larnaca airport. Does anyone have any inform
48 Oa260: The United Nations Protected Area (UNPA) and Nicosia Airport Within the buffer zone on the western edge of Nicosia, the hangars and runways of the Nic
49 CYatUK: Hermes airports has won a 25 year concession and signed a contract with Cyprus Government to built new terminals at both LCA and PFO airports. PFO wi
50 Bellerophon: BCAL You are spot on, and your post certainly stirred some memories for me. I had to get my old log books out to check, but I've flown three of those
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