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The Abandoned Trident At Nicosia.  
User currently offlineCumulus From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 1402 posts, RR: 1
Posted (6 years 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 14528 times:

There have often been posts about 5B-DAB which was destroyed at Nicosia during the kickoff between the Turks and the Greeks in Cyprus in 1974 and has sat there ever since.

Just been looking at the airport on Google Earth, would this aircraft showing be the same one? Two engines are clearly visible at the tail end, but I can't see if it's a Tri-Jet or not!!


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User currently offlineBuyantUkhaa From Mongolia, joined May 2004, 2899 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (6 years 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 14420 times:

To me the G Earth plane looks like a 727, but I could be wrong...


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User currently offlineBCAL From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 3384 posts, RR: 16
Reply 2, posted (6 years 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 14274 times:

Looking at this general arrangement drawing of the Trident, it does not seem to bear much resemblance to the aircraft in the photo, so I do not think it could be 5B-DAB.


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User currently offlineCumulus From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 1402 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (6 years 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 14234 times:

If you look the whole image of the Airfield, it's the only aircraft there!!

That's why I thought it must be!! (The lone Aircraft being the top Northern end of the Field!).

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User currently offlineDogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (6 years 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 14217 times:

Heya,

To me, if you llok at the Aerial photo. To the left of the fuselage can you see that the tarmac changes colour from a light grey to a darker grey?

And in the photo posted of the trident, you can see that the tarmac changes from Light grey to darker grey.

The positon of the plane in both aerial and bottom photo would look as if they are in the same position, or very close to it.

So I think it is indeed the Trident, but that's just me going on a wacky assumption based on tarmac colour :P

Mike


User currently offlinePiskoto From Cyprus, joined Nov 2006, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 14201 times:

Pity! It would had been great if NIC airport was operating!, The only capital in the world I know without an airport... Sad

User currently offlineCumulus From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 1402 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (6 years 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 14162 times:



Quoting Piskoto (Reply 5):
Pity! It would had been great if NIC airport was operating!, The only capital in the world I know without an airport... 

There is Ercan just to the East (abandoned Nicosia is to the West). Don't know if it Military or not though!!



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User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9634 posts, RR: 68
Reply 7, posted (6 years 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 14064 times:
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User currently offlineCumulus From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 1402 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (6 years 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 14027 times:



Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 7):
Have a look here:

http://www.pbase.com/alexis/katehomena2003

Seen that before, spooky!!!

And here, a close up of Alpha Bravo!

http://www.englishschool.ac.cy/the_hague_model_united_nations.html



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User currently onlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5718 posts, RR: 18
Reply 9, posted (6 years 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 13984 times:



Quoting Cumulus (Reply 3):
If you look the whole image of the Airfield, it's the only aircraft there!!

Well, almost the only one...


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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7704 posts, RR: 21
Reply 10, posted (6 years 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 13894 times:
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Quoting Cumulus (Reply 6):
There is Ercan just to the East (abandoned Nicosia is to the West). Don't know if it Military or not though!!

Seeing as it's in an area of occupied land we don't recognise as a country, I think we can discount Ercan. Such a shame to see such a large airfield just abandoned like that in Nicosia.



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User currently offlineCumulus From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 1402 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (6 years 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 13783 times:



Quoting RussianJet (Reply 10):
Seeing as it's in an area of occupied land we don't recognise as a country

Who is "we"?



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User currently offlineKhobar From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2379 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (6 years 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 13782 times:



Quoting BCAL (Reply 2):
Looking at this general arrangement drawing of the Trident, it does not seem to bear much resemblance to the aircraft in the photo, so I do not think it could be 5B-DAB.

What looks different enough for you to say there isn't much resemblance?


User currently offlineCumulus From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 1402 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (6 years 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 13776 times:

Quoting L410Turbolet (Reply 9):
Well, almost the only one...

It was a miracle nobody died in that!!!


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(Actually, it's a good looking Jet for it's day!)

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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7704 posts, RR: 21
Reply 14, posted (6 years 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 13741 times:
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Quoting Cumulus (Reply 11):
Who is "we"?

The United Kingdom for one, and many other governments beside.



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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7704 posts, RR: 21
Reply 15, posted (6 years 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 13678 times:
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Quoting RussianJet (Reply 14):
The United Kingdom for one, and many other governments beside.

Actually, having looked into it further, apparently everybody except for Turkey.



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User currently offlineAnkaraflyjet From Turkey, joined Mar 2007, 267 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (6 years 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 13594 times:

Nicosia (Greek Side) lacks an airport and hopefully with a long expected resolution to the Cyprus dispute the old Nicosia Airport will be refurbished and opened to air traffic. Ercan is served by KTHY Cyprus Turkish Airlines (YK) as well as TK and some other Turkish carriers. After the resolution the expected carriers to ECN are BA, LH and various Middle Eastern carriers as the first commers and several UK LCC's.

YK is also going to have to reorganize itself as it is not doing very well at present.

On the other side of the island; CY will most likely start IST as their first Turkish destination. Before the divison of the island CY served both IST (Istanbul) and ESB (Ankara) in Turkey. This was done initally by BEA as extension of the London-Milan-Athens-Istanbul-Ankara flight to Nicosia and later on Tel Aviv was added as the last leg of the flight. Intially by Viking later on by COMET jet aircrafts of BEA. The Istanbul-Ankara-Nicosia segment operated by BEA under CY code. After establishment of Republic of Cyprus CY had its own metal to fly to Ankara and Istanbul and BEA flights from London terminated at Ankara.


User currently offlineSmcmac32msn From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (6 years 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 13595 times:



Quoting BCAL (Reply 2):
Looking at this general arrangement drawing of the Trident, it does not seem to bear much resemblance to the aircraft in the photo, so I do not think it could be 5B-DAB.

I think it is 5B-DAB, if you look at the ground, it matches on the left wing (discolor of the tarmac). There is a shadow on the aft portion just forward of the tail for the #2 engine. The swept back wings, and the swept back tail. I'm guessing it is 5B-DAB as the only other plane that is there is very small and broken up.



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User currently offlineOa260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27027 posts, RR: 58
Reply 18, posted (6 years 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 13545 times:



Quoting Ankaraflyjet (Reply 16):
Nicosia (Greek Side) lacks an airport and hopefully with a long expected resolution to the Cyprus dispute the old Nicosia Airport will be refurbished and opened to air traffic. Ercan is served by KTHY Cyprus Turkish Airlines (YK) as well as TK and some other Turkish carriers. After the resolution the expected carriers to ECN are BA, LH and various Middle Eastern carriers as the first commers and several UK LCC's.

Yes fingers crossed. It would be great to see NIC re built and serve both communities.

Quoting Ankaraflyjet (Reply 16):
CY will most likely start IST as their first Turkish destination.

Yes and it would be a great day. I think that if NIC was to be opened that ECN would become less attractive. International carriers would want to use NIC for the wider scope of passengers it would attract. LCA and ECN would eventually go. That is around 10 years down the line though even if the Island got a solution tomorrow. It would be a fantastic project to start off the reunification process. I think it would be nice to put 5B-DAB into some sort of museum , its history and unique.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25456 posts, RR: 22
Reply 19, posted (6 years 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 13540 times:



Quoting Smcmac32msn (Reply 17):
Quoting BCAL (Reply 2):
Looking at this general arrangement drawing of the Trident, it does not seem to bear much resemblance to the aircraft in the photo, so I do not think it could be 5B-DAB.

I think it is 5B-DAB

Yes it is. A little research will confirm that it's the only relatively intact CY Trident at NIC. Another (5B-DAE) was completely destroyed.


User currently offlineAbrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5100 posts, RR: 55
Reply 20, posted (6 years 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 13537 times:



Quoting Piskoto (Reply 5):
Pity! It would had been great if NIC airport was operating!, The only capital in the world I know without an airport... Sad

= There are plenty of capitals without airports ... of the top of my head, I can think of Vaduz, San Marino, Thimpu, Kampala, etc.

Saludos,
A.



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User currently offlineCumulus From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 1402 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (6 years 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 13451 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 19):
Yes it is. A little research will confirm that it's the only relatively intact CY Trident at NIC. Another (5B-DAE) was completely destroyed.

It was!


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This may have been where it was destroyed, although the A.Net photo shows the wreckage by runway threshold markings which aren't on the GE image.

[Edited 2008-09-24 10:05:08]


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User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (6 years 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 13390 times:

With the recent reopening of Ledra Street between the two communities of Nicosia, I am hopeful that Nicosia airport will one day be re-opened.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ledra_Street

The airport is of decent size, and although in tremendous disrepair, the facilities might be salvageable, should the opportunity ever arise to re-start services.

I can't really comment on who is right and who is wrong in the whole Cyprus situation, but I can say that pig-headed prejudiced bigots on both sides keep battles such as this going to the detriment of all. I realize that the root causes of the division go back many hundreds of years, but basing everything in life around a dislike for your neighbors really should go the way of the dinosaur. To paraphrase Mark Twain, travelling and meeting new people - and spending money in a foreign country - is absolutely fatal to hatred and bigotry.

As for the Trident itself, what a great museum piece that would make!! Anyone know what its last flight was?



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User currently offlineOa260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27027 posts, RR: 58
Reply 23, posted (6 years 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 13378 times:



Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 22):
The airport is of decent size, and although in tremendous disrepair, the facilities might be salvageable, should the opportunity ever arise to re-start services

They will never salvage it. The new airport would have to be brand new built with top class facilities. Due to the geographical position it would be a good hub if they planned it right.

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 22):
I can't really comment on who is right and who is wrong in the whole Cyprus situation,

Both were right and both were wrong. There are sad stories on both sides. I have heard them first hand from my Greek Cypriot and Turkish Cypriot friends. Times have changed and its time to draw a line and get on.


User currently offlineSmcmac32msn From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (6 years 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 13358 times:

Quoting Cumulus (Reply 21):
This may have been where it was destroyed, although the A.Net photo shows the wreckage by runway threshold markings which aren't on the GE image.

Wonder if they had some different markings on that tarmac, if you look close, the curve in both pictures matches the general area to where it is. I realize it might just be an end of runway turnoff, but its still possible.

EDIT: After looking at NIC, I don't see where this could be on a runway that would match. The runway markings on 32 are way offset from any turnoff, the markings for 14 are "behind" a turnoff and not in front as they appear in the John Higgins picture. Runway 8 is the same as 14. Runway 26 is a back-taxi runway with no turnoffs where it would curve out as such. Correction, it might have laid about 325m up runway 32 from the displaced threshold, there is a touchdown mark and taxiway in that configuration right there.

[Edited 2008-09-24 10:25:10]

[Edited 2008-09-24 10:32:06]


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25 BCAL : To the naked eye (but using a magnifying glass on an enlarged photo might reveal otherwise) it looks to me as though the shape of the wings is differ
26 Alitis : Slightly off topic, if my memory is correct, isn't there also a trident at SKG just west of the terminal on the grass? Maybe one of our Greek friends
27 Cumulus : If I could find the Airport on Google Earth I'd look, can't find it anywhere!!
28 Post contains images Cumulus : Found it, God I'm useless!! Could this be it? Looks suitably derelict, but like DAB can't see if it's a Tri-Jet again!
29 Ollyhuk : I was always led to believe that it would be difficult to re-open Nicosia due to the large amount of High Rise building that has happened at the East
30 Oa260 : Is that not a Caravelle?
31 Post contains links and images UPS707 : You got me curious, so I had to go poke around. Looks like your bird is a Caravelle, but there is also a Tu-154 sitting out there not doing much a li
32 Post contains links Oa260 : Yes I got a pic of it on my first ever TR. I thought it was a Caravelle. http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...earchid=94189&s=lx+dub+skg#ID94189
33 Post contains links and images Irish251 : In the photo of the destroyed 5B-DAE you can see the runway VASIs in the background (the three box-shaped items), which means that it was on the runwa
34 JetJeanes : Why the razor wire around the trident,,,,, i dont think anyone plans on takeing it anywhere...
35 Vfw614 : I assume that you mean that Nicosia pretty much would replace Larnaca - or are you suggesting that such services would be on top of the existing serv
36 Ankaraflyjet : I understand your point as LCA being the gateway to the island but due to UK Cyprus relations and the number of Greek and Turkish Cypriots in the UK,
37 MIAMIx707 : Wow a Trident... Is it possible to go there to see it or is the area off limits?
38 OA260 : It would be the obvious option and I have heard it many times over the years. The only other option I heard of was to build housing for refugees but
39 Vfw614 : The issue I was going to raise is whether there is really a need to rebuilt Nicosia airport in the future as the island already has Larnaca, Paphos an
40 Post contains links BrusselsSouth : There are two trip reports on this site which include Ercan airport : http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/trip_reports/read.main/35798 http://ww
41 Post contains links and images Cumulus : What was it impounded for in 1983? View Large View MediumPhoto © Max Teuber
42 OA260 : Or Kyrenia as it is more widely known as.
43 Post contains links and images Cumulus : Interesting read that. 5B-DAC did indeed become G-AVFB and now sits a Duxford beautifully restored. View Large View Medium Photo © Andre Oferta View
44 Post contains links BCAL : According to the Trident website G-ASWV became 9K-ACG and was transferred to and operated by Kuwait Airways. The aircraft was written off following a
45 Post contains links Cumulus : Sorry, my mistake! http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/HistoricalMaterial/G-ASWU.pdf
46 CYatUK : Guys, sorry to disappoint you both but Cyprus Government has stated many times that given the housing development of the greater Nicosia area, NIC wi
47 Post contains links PanAm747 : According to someone's posting at http://www.wikimapia.org , there is a brand new terminal being built at Larnaca airport. Does anyone have any inform
48 Post contains links Oa260 : The United Nations Protected Area (UNPA) and Nicosia Airport Within the buffer zone on the western edge of Nicosia, the hangars and runways of the Nic
49 CYatUK : Hermes airports has won a 25 year concession and signed a contract with Cyprus Government to built new terminals at both LCA and PFO airports. PFO wi
50 Bellerophon : BCAL You are spot on, and your post certainly stirred some memories for me. I had to get my old log books out to check, but I've flown three of those
51 Cumulus : You old Nostalgic!!!!
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