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NW Adding E75 MCO-MSP  
User currently offlineN7371f From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1735 posts, RR: 12
Posted (6 years 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2361 times:
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Looking for flights over Christmas I was surprised to see Northwest running a Compass-operated Embraer 175 MCO-MSP nonstop! It leaves MCO at 6:30pm. I'm assuming that's in place of the regular 320/757 evening departure that connects to the west coast bank at night out of MSP. Talk about cutting back in MCO!!!

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User currently offlineMSNfan From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2320 times:

Wow, that is pretty surprising. They've had DC9s there on other routes, but to switch to that for MCO-MSP is interesting. From what I've heard about the E170, it is probably just as if not more comfortable for PAX, but a big cut in capacity nonetheless.


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User currently offlineAviationwiz From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 962 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (6 years 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2301 times:

This is just a temporary additional flight for the holidays, as service starts shortly before, and ends shortly after.

Looking on certain dates for the holidays, there are up to 6 daily non-stops from MSP-MCO, up from 3 now, and 4 beginning on I believe the first of October.



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User currently offlineTjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2453 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (6 years 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2223 times:

GRR-MCO will be operated by the CPZ E175 from 17-Dec through 4-Jan, then it's back to the diesel 9.

Flt 2062
Depart MCO 11:00
Arrive GRR 13:45

Flt 2063
Depart GRR 14:45
Arrive MCO 17:30



Direct KNOBS, maintain 2700' until established on the localizer, cleared ILS runway 26 left approach.
User currently offlineIsitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 23
Reply 4, posted (6 years 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2202 times:



Quoting Tjwgrr (Reply 3):
GRR-MCO will be operated by the CPZ E175 from 17-Dec through 4-Jan, then it's back to the diesel 9.

Lets see if I can figure this one out...........
100-120 pax planes before Dec 17, then 76 pax plane thru the busy Christmas season....then back to 100-120 pax planes in January...
yeah......I got that.....

huh?????
safe



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User currently offlineLogos From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 793 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (6 years 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2196 times:



Quoting Isitsafenow (Reply 4):
Lets see if I can figure this one out...........
100-120 pax planes before Dec 17, then 76 pax plane thru the busy Christmas season....then back to 100-120 pax planes in January...
yeah......I got that.....

huh?????
safe

I'm guessing that as they shuffle holiday capacity, it was determined that GRR was a market that could do with less to Orlando and that the capacity would make more money elsewhere. If they are adding segments at their hubs like MSP, I'm guessing they're expecting the slack can be picked up with connections.

Cheers,
Dave in MCO



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User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7546 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (6 years 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2178 times:



Quoting Logos (Reply 5):
I'm guessing that as they shuffle holiday capacity, it was determined that GRR was a market that could do with less to Orlando and that the capacity would make more money elsewhere. If they are adding segments at their hubs like MSP, I'm guessing they're expecting the slack can be picked up with connections.

Correct some of those odd out station routes like GRR-MCO don't have as much traffic daily during christmas time surprisingly, so they use the aircraft elsewhere.



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User currently offlineTjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2453 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2005 times:



Quoting Isitsafenow (Reply 4):
Lets see if I can figure this one out...........
100-120 pax planes before Dec 17, then 76 pax plane thru the busy Christmas season....then back to 100-120 pax planes in January...
yeah......I got that.....

Seasonal GRR-MCO service (w/ DC93) restarts Saturday's only from 8-Nov through 13-Dec.

Daily E-175 17-Dec through 4-Jan.

Saturdays only (DC93) from 10-Jan through 7-Feb

Daily DC93 11-Feb through 1-May.

Discontinued after 1-May from what I can see.



Direct KNOBS, maintain 2700' until established on the localizer, cleared ILS runway 26 left approach.
User currently offlineKingAir200 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1622 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1919 times:

GRR-MCO 02NOV08 - 16DEC08 SAT
17DEC08 - 04JAN09 DAILY
05JAN09 - 10FEB09 SAT
11FEB09 - 01MAY09 DAILY

Should be a 9 all the time if you ask me, but I don't decide what goes where.



Hey Swifty
User currently offlineLambert747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (6 years 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1808 times:



Quoting N7371f (Thread starter):
Looking for flights over Christmas I was surprised to see Northwest running a Compass-operated Embraer 175 MCO-MSP nonstop! It leaves MCO at 6:30pm. I'm assuming that's in place of the regular 320/757 evening departure that connects to the west coast bank at night out of MSP. Talk about cutting back in MCO!!!

It has more to do with yield rationalization than anything else. By NW using a smaller aircraft on the route they in turn have less seats to sell, thus the available seats will sell at a higher premium than those offered a traditional Airbus or Boeing operated flight.


User currently offlineIsitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 23
Reply 10, posted (6 years 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1776 times:



Quoting Lambert747 (Reply 9):
It has more to do with yield rationalization than anything else. By NW using a smaller aircraft on the route they in turn have less seats to sell, thus the available seats will sell at a higher premium than those offered a traditional Airbus or Boeing operated flight.

I can buy that, sort of. Problem is GRR to MCO never offered the blue light special. FNT-MCO is a different story. Please point your finger at airTran. That's why. Equipment has nuttin' to do with that route and the word cheap.
safe



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User currently onlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8565 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (6 years 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1767 times:

That would be a realtively high yield flight, because as mentioned it's primarily to serve the MSP and surrounding local market during a peak time. They will probably hold out for max fares on a flight like that.

User currently offlineKingAir200 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1622 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (6 years 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1742 times:

Quoting Isitsafenow (Reply 10):
Problem is GRR to MCO never offered the blue light special.

Exactly. The blue light fares from GRR are usually over DTW and MSP. NWA has been able to fill a D9S, and occasionally a D94, in the past with higher fares nonstop than with a connection.

[Edited 2008-09-26 13:10:46]


Hey Swifty
User currently offlineN7371f From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1735 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (6 years 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1657 times:
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I checked WorldSpan and the E75 flight is an extra flight; the A320 at 5:30pm (that's been there for years) is still operating. I at first thought this was a downgrade. Interestingly...when I priced the routing the lowest offering was on the E75 connection, not the A320 flight an hour earlier. The E75 lands with still enough time to connect to many of the west coast night flights.

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