Ben175 From Australia, joined Jul 2008, 579 posts, RR: 0 Posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2909 times:
Question: Are JQ going to be phasing out their A330's and replace them with the new dreamliners on order? Will they operate alongside and open new routes?
JQ's recent international narrowbody expansion in PER had me thinking - could we see JQ take over the rest of QF's flights? (NRT, HKG, rest of SIN) if they flew the 330/787 on these routes? Even an expansion into new markets such as Thailand and Vietnam?
HawkerCamm From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2007, 401 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2746 times:
I would guess that Jetstar needs the B787 for their growth and therefore until a "critical mass" of B787's has been built up I would expect both B787 and A330 to operate together. Obviously the B787/A330 fleet would then be deployed to the best routes for their performance characterisitics.
There is currently a massive worldwide demand for B787/A330/A350/B772 sized aircraft and demand is currently above the supply. Therefore airlines with growth plans will take and keep any B787/A330/A350/B772 they can get their hands on.
Its better to have an aircraft to open a new route (even with a A330 instead of a B787) than to let your competitor do it for you!
Gemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5240 posts, RR: 6 Reply 2, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2620 times:
Quoting Ben175 (Thread starter): Question: Are JQ going to be phasing out their A330's and replace them with the new dreamliners on order? Will they operate alongside and open new routes?
The orginal "plan" was that JQ would return an A330 to QF for every B787 delivered. But it was always "subject to change" so what will actually happen is anyones guess.
Jetstar315 From Australia, joined Sep 2007, 33 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2578 times:
In response to Ben175, the plan at this stage is that when the 4th B787 arrives, the 1st A330 returns to Qantas, when the 11th B787 arrives, the 2nd A330 will return, and then they're pretty much a one for one swap after that. Approximately 9 months after the last B787-800 arrives, the B787-900s start rolling into the fleet with each -800 rolling over to Qantas for each -900 delivered. By mid-late 2013 the rollover will be complete.
ClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4528 posts, RR: 25 Reply 4, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2336 times:
Quoting Ben175 (Thread starter): Question: Are JQ going to be phasing out their A330's and replace them with the new dreamliners on order? Will they operate alongside and open new routes?
Sure, the first 15 x 787-8 aircraft are going to JQ.
Once the 787-9 is available, the first 15 are going to JQ, with all the 787-8s transferring to Qantas.
Quoting Ben175 (Thread starter): JQ's recent international narrowbody expansion in PER had me thinking - could we see JQ take over the rest of QF's flights? (NRT, HKG, rest of SIN) if they flew the 330/787 on these routes? Even an expansion into new markets such as Thailand and Vietnam?
It's fairly unlikely that this would happen. You may see some JQ flights operating for the leisure market, but I don't see QF leaving an entire state capital to JQ. There would be enough of a market for both.
Quoting Jetstar315 (Reply 3): In response to Ben175, the plan at this stage is that when the 4th B787 arrives, the 1st A330 returns to Qantas, when the 11th B787 arrives, the 2nd A330 will return, and then they're pretty much a one for one swap after that. Approximately 9 months after the last B787-800 arrives, the B787-900s start rolling into the fleet with each -800 rolling over to Qantas for each -900 delivered. By mid-late 2013 the rollover will be complete.
Thanks for the additional details there!
I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
Bjwonline From Australia, joined Mar 2007, 91 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2236 times:
Quoting Jetstar315 (Reply 3): Approximately 9 months after the last B787-800 arrives, the B787-900s start rolling into the fleet with each -800 rolling over to Qantas for each -900 delivered. By mid-late 2013 the rollover will be complete.
Are QF planning to operate both the 788 and 789 or are all the 789's for JQ and the 788's for QF?
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