EddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 4968 posts, RR: 50 Reply 1, posted (1 year 2 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 6647 times:
Hey Leo. There is a link on KE's website that shows the interior configurations of its fleet and the routes and days of the week when the new-configured planes are used. Sadly it does not contain a list of registrations.
Loadsheet From Saudi Arabia, joined Jul 2004, 46 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (1 year 2 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 5919 times:
KE's B747-400 Pax are certified with 857.000LBS MTOW ( = 388.727KG )
KE's B747-400 Freighter are certified with 870.000LBS MTOW ( = 394.625KG ) - BCF have same limitations, but their DOW is approx 362.000LBS, compared to normal freighters with around 350.000LBS. Make a hugh payload difference !
KE's B747-400 ERF are certified with 910.000LBS MTOW ( = 412.795KG )
HOONS90 From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 1995 posts, RR: 58 Reply 6, posted (1 year 2 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5157 times:
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Quoting Qantas744ER (Reply 4): So which KE 744's are stilled planned for conversion into BCF and which ones will remain in service for a while with the new cabins? and for how long?
This information should be accurate as of last week.
HL7607, HL7484, HL7485 and HL7486 are the last four 747-400s with the old products. They should be converted soon, if they haven't started already. They're mostly flying intra-Asia routes at the moment.
HL7402, HL7404, HL7460, HL7461, HL7465, HL7473, HL7488, HL7489, HL7493, HL7494, HL7495 have the older type of flat-bed first class seats, new business class seats and new economy class with AVOD in all classes. They generally fly to London, Paris, Vancouver, Atlanta, Tokyo Narita, Tokyo Haneda and Osaka
HL7472, HL7487, HL7490, HL7491, HL7492 have the new flat-bed seats in first class, new business class seats and new economy class seats with AVOD in all classes. They are generally used to Frankfurt, Los Angeles and New York City
HL7412, HL7482, HL7483 have already been converted to freighters.
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Qantas744ER From United States, joined Jun 2005, 1173 posts, RR: 6 Reply 7, posted (1 year 2 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3646 times:
Quoting Loadsheet (Reply 5): KE's B747-400 Pax are certified with 857.000LBS MTOW ( = 388.727KG )
KE's B747-400 Freighter are certified with 870.000LBS MTOW ( = 394.625KG ) - BCF have same limitations, but their DOW is approx 362.000LBS, compared to normal freighters with around 350.000LBS. Make a hugh payload difference !
KE's B747-400 ERF are certified with 910.000LBS MTOW ( = 412.795KG )
if anybody needs regos, let me know ....
If you got that data from the JP airfleets book, then regarding the 744's it is wrong, as 857k lbs is not a boeing MTOW option! The book was my first source but checking boeing documents proved it wrong.
Just like the JP book states UA's 744's at 870k even though they have 875k.
leo
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Qantas744ER From United States, joined Jun 2005, 1173 posts, RR: 6 Reply 9, posted (1 year 2 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3161 times:
Quoting HOONS90 (Reply 6): HL7402, HL7404, HL7460, HL7461, HL7465, HL7473, HL7488, HL7489, HL7493, HL7494, HL7495 have the older type of flat-bed first class seats, new business class seats and new economy class with AVOD in all classes. They generally fly to London, Paris, Vancouver, Atlanta, Tokyo Narita, Tokyo Haneda and Osaka
Thanks for that great list! Will these planes receive the new first seats?
Leo
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NicoEDDF From Germany, joined Jan 2008, 758 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (1 year 2 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3152 times:
Quoting HOONS90 (Reply 6): HL7472, HL7487, HL7490, HL7491, HL7492 have the new flat-bed seats in first class, new business class seats and new economy class seats with AVOD in all classes. They are generally used to Frankfurt, Los Angeles and New York City
Uhh yeah...damn them if they gonna change it for the 5th of november.
HOONS90 From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 1995 posts, RR: 58 Reply 11, posted (1 year 2 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3136 times:
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Quoting Qantas744ER (Reply 9): Thanks for that great list! Will these planes receive the new first seats?
You're welcome. Those planes should receive the new first class seats eventually, but KE is focused on getting the 777s and A330s AVOD and new seats first. The 744s that already have the new first class seats only got them because they didn't have flat seats at all prior to the refurbishment.
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Qantas744ER From United States, joined Jun 2005, 1173 posts, RR: 6 Reply 12, posted (1 year 2 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2791 times:
Quoting HOONS90 (Reply 11): You're welcome. Those planes should receive the new first class seats eventually, but KE is focused on getting the 777s and A330s AVOD and new seats first. The 744s that already have the new first class seats only got them because they didn't have flat seats at all prior to the refurbishment.
Makes perfect sense, thanks again! Those 330s really do need some new seats...
Leo
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ZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 4550 posts, RR: 12 Reply 14, posted (1 year 2 months 3 hours ago) and read 1606 times:
Quoting HOONS90 (Reply 6):
HL7607, HL7484, HL7485 and HL7486 are the last four 747-400s with the old products. They should be converted soon, if they haven't started already. They're mostly flying intra-Asia routes at the moment.
I thought I heard that there were 6 744s that weren't getting reconfigured? These would be 4 of them I'd have thought? And will these be the ones used to AKL/SYD over the Northern Winter?
Speedbird0125 From United States, joined Mar 2008, 130 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1381 times:
this is a little bit out of topic, but what about 777s? Did they start upgrading their 772s or any other fleets except 744s? Also, I think they have two different kind of new cabins. I was on their new 772's, and their design of new seats were different even though both were new refurbished cabin (couch). One of them had a bigger and wider screen. Why do they have two different kinds of cabin? Which one are they going to retrofit for their new cabin for the future?
Is there any 744s that retrofitted with wider screen seat in couch?
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