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CO To Operate ERJ's From EWR To ZIH, Mexico  
User currently offlineJaseWGTN From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 823 posts, RR: 1
Posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2545 times:

CO is going to be operating a through flight with the ERJ from Newark to Ixtapa, Mexico via Birmingham Alabama and Houston Texas.

Don't know about anyone, but the total flight/ground time is 8 hours 30 mins and I personally wouldn't want to spend that much time in a ERJ



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User currently offlineEricmetallica From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2484 times:

That sounds like a stupid flight

Eric


User currently offlineN312RC From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 2682 posts, RR: 16
Reply 2, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2476 times:

Airlines are taking this regional jet thing way too far, in my opinion. I thought regional jets were made to take over flights operated by props. Flights like DTW-TVC or DTW-CLE. Not eight hour transcons that could be operated by DC-10s!


Fly Delta's Big Jets!
User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16820 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2462 times:

No one is going to fly from EWR to ZIH via a two stop ERJ flight,thats just a flight number continuing,Im sure that it may be the same plane all the way from EWR to ZIH but on the trip back the plane will have to clear customs and getting it back up in the air is not that easy.

This flight might be good for travelers from Birmingham,but EWR travelers would just catch one of the ten or so mostly wide body and 757 flights from EWR to IAH where they can comfortably make the connection to the ZIH flight.



Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlineJaseWGTN From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 823 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2459 times:

STT757:

It doesn't appear to operate in reverse, and Continental are selling the flight and giving it as the first choice in availablity:

THU 17MAY01 NEW YORK CIT/IXTAPA / ZIH *CO
1 EWR2ZIH 0655 1426 @CO4203 Y4 H4 K4 B4 V4 Q4 T0 ERJ*C
2 JFK IAH 0550 0849 CO1559 A4 D4 F4 Y4 H4 K4 B4 V4 Q4 T0 735*C
3 ZIH 1150 1426 @CO4203 Y4 H4 K4 B4 V4 Q4 T0 ERJ*C
4 LGA IAH 0759 1100 CO1969 A4 D4 F0 Y4 H4 K4 B4 V4 Q4 T4 738*C
5 ZIH 1150 1426 @CO4203 Y4 H4 K4 B4 V4 Q4 T4 ERJ*C
>AM*CO »
>








User currently offlineCba From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 4531 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2446 times:

This is just 3 different flights with the same flight number.

Flight 1: EWR-BHM
Flight 2: BHM-IAH
Flight 3: IAH-ZIH

3 separate flights. Not intended for EWR travellers to go to ZIH.


User currently offlineTheCroupier From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2422 times:

CO is just flowing these planes north and south. They are aware that few travelers will choose to go all the way to Mexico from Newark on the ERJ, but the plane is going to fly the route anyway.

However, a friend just sent his kid on a CO vacation package IAH-CDG (actually, IAH-STL-EWR-CDG)...the first two legs via ERJ. For the lowest priced package, that was the only flight available.

The OAG has 4 daily IAH-EWR one stop flights via ERJ.


User currently offlineToxtethogrady From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1222 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2408 times:

Given the way codesharing has gone, it could say DL and be Atlantic Southeast...

User currently offlineCba From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 4531 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2404 times:

Eventually, Delta will become entirely Delta Connection, and all flights will be operated by ASA and Comair with CRJ's.  Big grin

User currently offlineJAVOMD88 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2403 times:

Hi,
Co has really pulled it this time! EWR-ZIH Yeah right!

I was in Aguascalientes 3 days ago, and i saw the flight from AGS-IAH with 3 pax. I talked to the co-pilot and he told me the load factor on most of the flights to mex with the ERJ's is very low, looks like they want to hog up the routes for the presence only, but looks like they arent making that much money!

Take Care
JAVO.


User currently offlineNickofatlanta From Australia, joined May 2000, 1485 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2385 times:

"Given the way codesharing has gone, it could say DL and be Atlantic Southeast..."

Not quite sure what your point is here ... ASA is now a wholly-owned DL subsidiary - exactly like CO Express which I believe is wholly owned by CO.

It's worth noting that it's largely because of the "ERJs" that CO serves more cities in Mexico than Mexicana ... not sure if the same was true if only mainline jets were counted.


User currently offlineTheCroupier From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2367 times:

Javo,
That's an interesting post. I wonder if its more heresay than fact (on the pilot's part, not yours). COEx can't possibly making a profit on all of these routes.

But the CO people "in the know" have written more than once on these forums that only profitable routes are flown.


User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8894 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2341 times:

If I were going to go on that route, why go through Birmingham when I could take one of CO's may n/s EWR-IAH flights? They are using the same flight number, but I see it more of EWR-Birmingham as one flight, IAH-Birmingham as another flight that goes on to ZIH. If CO was smart, they would have different a/c numbers, but I guess they want to say that they are the only airline to fly direct to ZIH from New York.

Jeff


User currently offlineFDXmech From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3251 posts, RR: 34
Reply 13, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2338 times:

I'm curious how Continental pilots would view such a route. Sounds like the regionals are usurping a mainline route.


You're only as good as your last departure.
User currently offlineCba From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 4531 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2333 times:

How many times do we have to say this, it's just 3 different flights with the same aircraft. The EWR-BHM flight arrives at a good time to serve the IAH flight, so it goes to IAH later. It arrives in IAH around the right time to served the ZIH, so it serves the ZIH flight. CO never intended for EWR passengers to to travel on to ZIH, they would just connect through IAH.

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