Sponsor Message:
Civil Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
Air Canada's A343 Are Still Available?  
User currently offlineQwame From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 129 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 17715 times:

With the delays in the release of the 787 I'm a bit surprised that the 2 Air Canada A343s, are still on the market. Are there a lot of other A342 or A343 on the market or are airlines just waiting on the 787?

96 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineBoeing6600 From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 45 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 17633 times:

I do not think that many airlines are looking for A340's because of the high operating costs with the current fuel prices.

User currently offlineLongHauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 4915 posts, RR: 43
Reply 2, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 17367 times:

Air Canada is still operating the two A340-300s left in the fleet GDVW and GDVZ. They continually fly YVR-HKG-YVR on a daily overlap basis.


Never gonna grow up, never gonna slow down .... Barefoot Blue Jean Night
User currently offlineQwame From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 129 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 17155 times:



Quoting Boeing6600 (Reply 1):

There are not many options out the if you need a longhaul aircraft. Is there a big difference between the operating cost for the A343 and A345?


User currently offlineZBBYLW From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 1983 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 17115 times:



Quoting LongHauler (Reply 2):
They continually fly YVR-HKG-YVR

Funny enough - it is more like they fly HKG-YVR-HKG with a long (18 or so) hour layover in HKG before coming to YVR for a quick turn around and back off to Hong Kong.

AC is getting all their scheduled maintenance done in HKG and SIN (on the 340 anyhow). With the routine stuff getting done in HKG and heavier stuff getting done in SIN.



Keep the shinny side up!
User currently offlineEbbUK From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 17098 times:

What a bird! So good is the 343 that AC just can't get rid  Smile

User currently offlineZBBYLW From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 1983 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 17062 times:

Speaking of AC's 343s what is going to happen on the 1st of October when AC007/008 gets changed over to the 77W? Are they going to remain in the system going to Asia/Europe or YYZ? Or are they gone in the next few days?


Keep the shinny side up!
User currently offlineWunalaYann From Australia, joined Mar 2005, 2839 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 17007 times:



Quoting Boeing6600 (Reply 1):
I do not think that many airlines are looking for A340's because of the high operating costs with the current fuel prices.

I respectfully wonder what exactly you mean by that. Which aircraft are you comparing it to? Are we talking CASM, fuel burn, payload/range capabilities?

 Smile


User currently offlineIrobertson From Canada, joined Apr 2006, 601 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 16245 times:



Quoting WunalaYann (Reply 7):
I respectfully wonder what exactly you mean by that. Which aircraft are you comparing it to? Are we talking CASM, fuel burn, payload/range capabilities?

I ignored that comment because it seemed like just another "the A340 is a fuel sucking whale" comment. From my understanding, its the best option AC has while they wait for all their 777s to come online. Can't just dump off every A340 before you replace them on their routes. I'm confident they'll all get homes; the only one without one is the poor ex-BWIA sitting at Goodyear. Or is that one gone? Do we know for sure?


User currently offlineBWIA 772 From Barbados, joined May 2002, 2200 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 16161 times:



Quoting Irobertson (Reply 8):

BWIA 343 from AC went to the Aerolineas Argentina


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Gianluca Mantellini



The other A343 was an ex VS aircraft that had the belly landing in the 1990s.

Regards
BWIA 772



Eagles Soar!
User currently offlineBoeing6600 From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 45 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 15810 times:



Quoting Irobertson (Reply 8):
I ignored that comment because it seemed like just another "the A340 is a fuel sucking whale" comment. From my understanding, its the best option AC has while they wait for all their 777s to come online. Can't just dump off every A340 before you replace them on their routes. I'm confident they'll all get homes; the only one without one is the poor ex-BWIA sitting at Goodyear. Or is that one gone? Do we know for sure?

No don't get me wrong the A340 is a great plane depending on the market. However having said that it is a "fuel sucking whale" when compared other aircraft, for example the 777 or A330.


User currently offlineWunalaYann From Australia, joined Mar 2005, 2839 posts, RR: 25
Reply 11, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 15779 times:



Quoting Boeing6600 (Reply 10):
No don't get me wrong the A340 is a great plane depending on the market. However having said that it is a "fuel sucking whale" when compared other aircraft, for example the 777 or A330.

As you said, the 340 fulfils specific needs that the 772ER or 330 may not be able to plug so efficiently, specifically routes beyond the 77E's reach that do not need the 77L/345's legs. Obviously we are not talking about a vast number of routes but they exist nonetheless.

And some airlines that operate the 343 do make money with it (LH, AF and VS come to mind).

 Smile


User currently offlineBoeing6600 From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 45 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 15758 times:



Quoting WunalaYann (Reply 11):
And some airlines that operate the 343 do make money with it (LH, AF and VS come to mind).

Air Tahiti Nui must do ok as well, seeing as thats all they fly...


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24894 posts, RR: 46
Reply 13, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 15669 times:



Quoting Boeing6600 (Reply 12):
Air Tahiti Nui must do ok as well, seeing as thats all they fly...

They announced they would like to replace the 340s with "more fuel efficient aircraft"
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/read.main/4145269/



From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
User currently offlineWunalaYann From Australia, joined Mar 2005, 2839 posts, RR: 25
Reply 14, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 15526 times:



Quoting Boeing6600 (Reply 12):
Air Tahiti Nui must do ok as well, seeing as thats all they fly...

AZ flies 77Es and yet is about to (thankfully and finally) go bust. But is that relevant to the 777's capabilities? Of course not.

 Smile


User currently offlineWorldrider From Switzerland, joined Nov 2007, 301 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 15345 times:

no, the thing that is really surprising to me is seeing AC 767s still "whale fuel sucking" around  faint 

User currently offlineLVZXV From Gabon, joined Mar 2004, 2041 posts, RR: 37
Reply 16, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 14741 times:



Quoting Irobertson (Reply 8):
I ignored that comment because it seemed like just another "the A340 is a fuel sucking whale" comment. From my understanding, its the best option AC has while they wait for all their 777s to come online. Can't just dump off every A340 before you replace them on their routes. I'm confident they'll all get homes; the only one without one is the poor ex-BWIA sitting at Goodyear. Or is that one gone? Do we know for sure?

Indeed, the victim of belly-landing at LHR (msn 16) is already being parted-out in GYR. Even Air Comet of Spain rejected it, and that's really saying something...

AR received an ex-AC -300 (msn 93) and an ex-AC/BW (msn 48), and right now is anxious to get their hands on two more -300s, namely the two still operating for AC. Anyone know when these will become available?

Best regards,

ZXV



How do you say "12 months" in Estonian?
User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8664 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 14447 times:

Airlines can make money with the A343 reguardless. For example LX, IB, LH, Air China, Finnair, SAS, and others make money with it. Its not the greatest thing thats efficent but till the A350/787 enters service, it will continue to make money for the airlines the choose to operate it. BWIA ended its long haul services and so did JM.

Hunter



Never be afraid to stand up for who you are.
User currently offlineBmacleod From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 2247 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 14305 times:

AC needs its remaining A340s to carry over until the Boeing strike is over....I believe it has 9 77Ws (773ERs) plus 4 or 5 77L (777-200LRs). The remaining 2 77Ws will no doubt be delayed by the currrent strike and that's the principle reason for the 2 A340s still in service...

The 2 A340s will be snapped up probably be snapped up by an Asian or South American carrier before you can blink. They are still a hot item to quite a few carriers....



The engine is the heart of an airplane, but the pilot is its soul.
User currently offlineQwame From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 129 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 14124 times:

Can AC carry any significant amount of cargo on the YVR-HKG-YVR flights with the A343?

User currently offlineCF105Arrow From Canada, joined Oct 2007, 319 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 13975 times:



Quoting Bmacleod (Reply 18):
AC needs its remaining A340s to carry over until the Boeing strike is over....I believe it has 9 77Ws (773ERs) plus 4 or 5 77L (777-200LRs). The remaining 2 77Ws will no doubt be delayed by the currrent strike and that's the principle reason for the 2 A340s still in service...

All 6 77L have been in the fleet for a while. Only 2 77W were scheduled to join the fleet in september and november (probably delayed till next year) with the 12th and last 77W scheduled for delivery in April 09 (leased plane) probably will also be delayed.

Cheers,

Sam


User currently offlineWINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2831 posts, RR: 68
Reply 21, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 13970 times:

After a while it becomes rather frustrating to read the same shallow and and pointless threads.  Sad

The Airbus A340-300 (excluding the -200 series) is still a very viable and attractive product. It is not the fuel thirsty airplane that is constantly being portrayed in this forum. It still remains one of the most economical widebody's currently flying for the missions that it was intended for.

Airbus have built a total of 246 ( A340-200/300 ) frames. Currently 241 of those frames remain in active service.

# 20 January 1994 - Air France, an A340-211 (F-GNIA) was lost to fire during servicing at Charles de Gaulle International Airport.

# 24 July 2001 - SriLankan Airlines, an A340-300 (4R-ADD) was destroyed by an explosive charge. Terrorists of The Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam launched a suicide attack at the Bandaranaike International Airport.

# 2 August 2005 - Air France Flight 358, all 297 passengers and 12 crew survived a crash and fire after their A340-300 (F-GLZQ) overshot runway 24L at Toronto Pearson International Airport in a thunderstorm. The aircraft slid into Etobicoke Creek and broke up. Forty-three were injured, 1 seriously, some passengers jumped nearly 20 ft (6 m) to the ground.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_A340

Thankfully the whole A340 family (A340-200/300/500/600) have not been involved any fatal accidents.

Regards,
Wings



Aviation Is A Passion.
User currently offlineIrobertson From Canada, joined Apr 2006, 601 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week ago) and read 13542 times:

Speaking of the -200, how does its performance rate? I understand that the 300E models reach its range and have more seats, but compared to the original 300 and 300X, it must still be a good long range medium capacity airliner?

I believe Aerolineas Argentinas, Royal Jordanian, Egyptair, and South African still operate good numbers of them, in addition to one or two by Conviasa, Afriqiyah, and Brunei. There must be a good reason they've not been replaced by A332s or A340-300Xs (or 772ERs).

Ian


User currently offlineBWIA 772 From Barbados, joined May 2002, 2200 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week ago) and read 13421 times:



Quoting LVZXV (Reply 16):

MSN 93 went to BWIA as 9YTGN in 2002-2007. When BWIA decided on the A343 to replace its L1011 fleet they were going to get both aircraft from AC. BW took delivery of MSN 93 and because of financial problems did not take the other aircraft which IIRC was suppose to be MSN 88 C-FNQ now with IB. Instead in 2004 it took delivery of MSN 16 an ex VS 343 registered G VSKY

MSN 48 was first operated by Air Mauritius as 3B-NAT in 1994 then joined Air Jamaica as 6Y-JMC in 1999. Leased by Air Canada in 2005 as C-FDRO it is currently flying for Aerolineas Argentinas as LV-BMT

Regards
BWIA 772



Eagles Soar!
User currently offlineFlyDreamliner From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2759 posts, RR: 15
Reply 24, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week ago) and read 13332 times:

It's not that there is anything wrong with the A343. It is a very good aircraft, capable, comfortable, et cetera, it just isn't the most capable aircraft in its class. 77E carries potentially more passengers further with more cargo on almost all missions. There are still a few instances where 4 engines are an asset (takeoffs from SXM, flights from South America to Australia).

Quoting WunalaYann (Reply 11):

As you said, the 340 fulfils specific needs that the 772ER or 330 may not be able to plug so efficiently, specifically routes beyond the 77E's reach that do not need the 77L/345's legs.

I believe you are mistaken. The 77E has longer range than A343. Before A345 was delivered, 77Es flew the longest routes on earth (like EWR-HKG). The difference in range may only be a few hundred miles, but all the same. The only missions A340s can do that 77Es can't are the very few that require 4 engines for things like ETOPS, but those can generally be counted on your fingers. It's not that A343 is bad, it's just that 77E is newer and more capable.

Quoting WunalaYann (Reply 7):
I respectfully wonder what exactly you mean by that. Which aircraft are you comparing it to? Are we talking CASM, fuel burn, payload/range capabilities?

Montie Brewer, AC CEO said that A343 had great range, it just was "underpowered." I interpreted that as perhaps on hot summer days that the A343s couldn't lift as much payload as AC had wanted (perhaps cargo is important to them), whereas 77L and 77W have decidedly better payload capabilities (albeit with trade-offs, I'm sure). I would imagine 77E can now carry a fair amount of cargo on flights like YVR-SYD and YYZ-HKG, and 77W can do well for them on flights like YVR-HKG in the heavy lifting of cargo department.

Additionally, 777s do have better cargo volume as a result of not having center landing gear eating up space mid-ship, as well as their wider fuselages (though that mostly benefits for bulk cargo, i'd imagine).



"Let the world change you, and you can change the world"
25 Pnwtraveler : All I know is what I have been told by AC Cargo. The extra lift provided by the 777's on the routes they are on has meant more cargo carried which is
26 LVZXV : When AR got their (used) -200s back in 1999, they were about the only modern, medium-size aircraft capable of the EZE-AKL-SYD route without the hassl
27 TK787 : Exactly, that is the perfect case for Turkish Airlines, that operates 8 343s( 1 more to join) out of IST to destinations like, JFK, ORD, PEK, PVG...
28 LAXintl : You are right -- compared to older generation of widebodies (DC-10, MD-11, B747 Classics) the economics of the A340 are very good. However it stacks
29 Bmacleod : My understanding is that the 77W will use more fuel as it's much heavier than the A340 though it wins over the A340 on CASMs (Cost-Allocated Seat Mil
30 Irobertson : I think Swissair did a comparison of the A340 vs the MD11 and found that on their routes, the A340 had a 3% fuel burn improvement over the MD11. I su
31 HB-IWC : You are right about the comparison, but there were other issues with the MD11s as well. Swissair was experiencing range problems and weight restricti
32 Post contains links WunalaYann : No, I am not mistaken. I was referring to the ETOPS-constrained routes, such as SYD-SCL and the like. Granted, as I stated in my previous post, there
33 Kappel : Nope, it's not. It's lighter than the 772ER and burns less fuel. Only the 772ER carries more pax and cargo. If the plane can be filled regularly, the
34 A388 : Kappel, How are you doing? I am wondering what the latest information is on Surinam Airways and there rumored 777 purchase/lease. The A330/A340 was al
35 Kappel : Hi A388, conta bai? I'm doing fine thank you. To be honest, I wonder if PY themselves know. Of course, a lot depends on availability and I guess ther
36 Multimark : So, despite the A vs B thread hijack, did anyone find out what AC's timetable is for the last 2 A343's?
37 Threepoint : I think it's turned into a very fluid timetable and I doubt anybody knows definitively. I'm sure the decision has been made, altered, delayed, postpon
38 Qwame : A saw a pics an interior pics of air canada's A343 on flickr. What's up with the PTV screens. It seem like there was a slot for the PTV and it was cov
39 Qwame : There is one that has been listed on 1996 A343 on speednews that has been on that listing for a while. How come it has not been snapped up.
40 Nicholaschee : With the delay of the 77W deliveries due to the Boeing strike, are the A343s staying past the dateline of Oct 1?
41 Kappel : This is something I have been wondering as well. Was AC also affected by the delays regarding interior equipment?
42 ACDC8 : Don't know how correct the AC website is, but AC867 (YYZ-FRA) is showing an A343 for the end of October, are they being taken off the YVR-HKG route?
43 ChrisA330 : The A340s came off the YVR-HKG route today with the 77W operating now. I've seen the 343s on a few YYZ-LHR flights, but nothing regular and certainly
44 Nicholaschee : That's good to know. Am looking forward to the JCL lie flats for my HKG-YVR flight
45 ACDC8 : That would explain it, thanks! Had I known that, I would have booked through AC instead of BA for later this month. Oh well, at least LH still has th
46 YVRLTN : Correct - AC8 YVR - HKG today was the last flight on this route by the A343 - the outbound AC7 was a 77W.
47 Multimark : Anyone know if the the two 343's are still flying? I don't see them anywhere on AC's website schedule.
48 ACDC8 : AC876 is showing an A343 in their booking system.
49 ZBBYLW : I forget the FIN number, but the 343 does not have the new colour fuselage has been sitting at YVR since yesterday morning.
50 SOBHI51 : I am not sure if i am correct.Did you include that incident with the 346 of ETIHAD in Toulouse?
51 SeaBosDca : Airlines prefer A340-300X/E with improved engines (both more powerful and more fuel efficient) and higher MTOW. The original A340-300 is only a bit m
52 Qwame : There is one that has been listed on 1996 A343 on speednews that has been on that listing for a while. How come it has not been snapped up. When did
53 YVRLTN : AC148 YVR - YYZ was operated by the A343 today.
54 Nicholaschee : There have been 5 hull lost incidents but zero fatalities. A342 - AF A343 - UL, AF A346 - IB, EY First A343X was delivered to SQ on 17/04/1996 as 9V-
55 SOBHI51 : If i am not wrong there was one fatality in the EY incident.
56 Post contains links Nicholaschee : http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20071115-0 No fatalities at all.[Edited 2008-10-12 02:30:57]
57 SOBHI51 : Sorry i was wrong then.Getting old i think.
58 WINGS : Thankfully only injured. Correct Correct It happens to the best of us. Regards, Wings
59 Post contains links Zeke : That is not correct, anything that happens during manufacturing or maintenance is not an accident or incident according to ICAO. I posted the definit
60 Nicholaschee : Thanks. So this would mean there are only 2 official hull losses so far - IB A346 & AF A343?[Edited 2008-10-12 05:45:42]
61 Post contains links Viscount724 : AC1137 YYZ-YVR today was also a 343. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ACA1137
62 Gigneil : There are no or practically no A340-300s available on the market. Every one is immediately snapped up and pressed into service. If AC wanted to ditch
63 Pnwtraveler : One was parked at the area behind Air Canada cargo last night in the infield area. I couldn't stop to get a fin number. The area around the AC mainten
64 DC10sRULE : I read that Finnair is adding 2 A340s this fall (Nov 08). Does anyone know where these are coming from? Finnair will be replacing MD11s as the A340s a
65 Pellegrine : I wish more people on this forum actually could grasp and understand this. For highest gross weights A343/77E ranges are 7300nm and 7700nm respective
66 Andaman : Hi, where you got that information? AY already have five A343s, as far as I know they are not getting more. The plan is the last AY MD-11 will go in
67 DC10sRULE : Hi There, FlyingAY indicated in another thread that AY is sending an MD11 to Aeroflot this fall so I thought they were replacing it with an A340 sinc
68 Andaman : Hi again, yes AY have received all the five A343s, one ex-Virgin, others from the factory. No more widebodies coming this year, except an Air Europa
69 A342 : IIRC it was 13%, not 3. I also find this VERY hard to believe. Even an older, non X/E A343 should be able to carry a higher payload.
70 Spotter : Fin 909 is sitting outside the AC hangars here in YYZ as of this morning. Saw Fin 910 here last week, as I understand they are still flying some LHR l
71 Greenjet : Yes but I believe they are on lease until 2015 so they don't actually own the aircraft.
72 Viscount724 : The only A340s AC owned were the 2 A340-500s. All the -300s were leased.
73 LAXintl : Why is it hard to believe? The analysis was not "how much payload" a plane can carry as planes are rarely loaded to the gills, but instead was analys
74 A342 : Ah, but you said Which means "more than ten hours", right? Of course the A330 is more efficient on shorter routes. But you cannot directly compare th
75 Post contains links BY188B : Currently 8 A340 available on the market http://www.speednews.com/EquipmentRe...&Manufacturer=Airbus&Aircraft=A340
76 LAXintl : "Upwards of 10hrs" means flights of up to around 10hrs, including a few over. For this operator the 330 was significantly more economic on routes acr
77 A342 : I know this. But when a carrier allocates a specific aircraft type to a route, it will be used to its maximum capability. Say LH has a typical load o
78 Yyz717 : One of the 343's has been used on one of the daily YYZ-LHR v.v. flights for the past 4 days (Oct 18-21).
79 AF022 : What are the interiors like on AC's A343's? The pictures on the photo section of this site look pretty antiquated.
80 Bakersdozen : They aren't too bad, prior to the XM project they were the newest interiors in the fleet. Typical looking plane similar to what BA would have without
81 LVZXV : Apparently AC's last two A343s will be retired by 16-11-08: C-GDVZ on 31-10-08 C-GDVW on 15-11-08 Source: ATDB Does anyone want them more badly than A
82 Pnwtraveler : For cross continent lfights like YYZ to YVR I think I might actually prefer the old J class seats where sleeping isn't needed. Less toys and a smaller
83 YVRLTN : Nothing to do with the A340 (apologies for hijacking), worth noting but not worth opening a new thread for - 3x 762ER's FBEG, GDSU & FBEF went to ROW
84 Pnwtraveler : There are a few pretty old 300's with high cycles. I think one or a couple of them was older than some of the 200ER's. You can tell the ones that are
85 ZBBYLW : Interesting 4 years to the day that the last AC 74C was retired. I was on that flight FRA-YYZ, the captain made a nice speach of the 747's service wi
86 CF105Arrow : Retired 762: AC B762 C-FVNM retired - 28Oct08 AC B762 C-FBEF retired - 28Oct08 AC B762 C-FBEG retired - 28Oct08 AC B762 C-GDSY retired - 28Oct08 AC B
87 LVZXV : Wasn't the B763ER put out to pasture a 2001-build frame?? ATDB shows C-GDSY retired 30-10-08, together with C-GAVC (new to the list), leaving just C-F
88 CF105Arrow : C-GDSY either gone or going to Roswell. C-GAVC leaving the fleet today. C-FBEM still in the fleet, am not sure for how long. With regards to the 763E
89 CF105Arrow : 763ER GHLV is back in the fleet after receiving the new (actual) AC colors. Last AC 762 C-FBEM has been retired on 03 Nov 08. Remaining planes to be
90 Post contains links FighterPilot : AC's fleet page says' they only own one now. http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/fleet/ Cal
91 Ayqzbr : As far as I am aware, the 3 non XMd 763s will continue flying, primarily between YVR/Hawaii and YYZ/BOG & LIM. They will also no doubt show up on YYZ
92 CF105Arrow : " target=_blank>http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/fleet/ Exactly, there is only one left in the fleet its fin 909. It will be later this month underg
93 Jfk777 : Air Canada's A340 fleet pioneered Toronto to Tokyo nonstop and Toronto New Dehli, India nonstop too. Today Air Canada's new 777 fleet operates Toronto
94 Viscount724 : But that wasn't the first YYZ-NRT nonstop service. Canadian Airlines was the first nonstop carrier on that route using DC-10-30s.
95 BeechNut : Yep, flew that route with that aircraft, westbound, in 1989. The flight was load-restricted though. And the bizclass seats weren't that comfortable.
96 CF105Arrow : The last AC A343 C-GDVW was removed from service on 20 Nov 08.
Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
Air Canada - LAX - SYD - Still On? posted Wed Sep 13 2006 12:40:55 by QANTASpower
Air Canada A343 posted Thu Oct 27 2005 01:00:18 by Aircanada333
IFE On Air Canada's A343 posted Mon Mar 21 2005 23:06:35 by JetWay
Are Air Canada And WestJet Avoiding New Service @ Winnipeg? posted Fri Jan 25 2008 13:10:14 by Ywg777
Is Robert Milton Still With Air Canada? posted Thu Nov 22 2007 19:50:21 by United Airline
Are Air Canada's 77W's Operating Into LHR Yet? posted Mon Apr 16 2007 13:59:38 by Gilesdavies
Air Canada To GRU Now With The A343 posted Tue Feb 14 2006 16:59:10 by Hagic
Air Canada 001/002 A343 Whole-year Service? posted Sat Nov 5 2005 23:23:12 by Ktachiya
Air Canada Jazz Planes Are In OKC posted Fri Sep 23 2005 06:59:02 by Jetmatt777
Where Are Air Canada's Airbus Widebodies Heading? posted Wed Apr 27 2005 00:20:38 by Cruiser
Air Canada A343 To TS? posted Sat Apr 7 2007 00:20:24 by YULYMX
Air Canada - LAX - SYD - Still On? posted Wed Sep 13 2006 12:40:55 by QANTASpower
Air Canada A343 posted Thu Oct 27 2005 01:00:18 by Aircanada333
IFE On Air Canada's A343 posted Mon Mar 21 2005 23:06:35 by JetWay
Are Air Canada And WestJet Avoiding New Service @ Winnipeg? posted Fri Jan 25 2008 13:10:14 by Ywg777
Is Robert Milton Still With Air Canada? posted Thu Nov 22 2007 19:50:21 by United Airline
Are Air Canada's 77W's Operating Into LHR Yet? posted Mon Apr 16 2007 13:59:38 by Gilesdavies
Air Canada To GRU Now With The A343 posted Tue Feb 14 2006 16:59:10 by Hagic
Air Canada 001/002 A343 Whole-year Service? posted Sat Nov 5 2005 23:23:12 by Ktachiya
Air Canada Jazz Planes Are In OKC posted Fri Sep 23 2005 06:59:02 by Jetmatt777