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Olympic Plane Circles 30 Min Due To Nap  
User currently onlineCF105Arrow From Canada, joined Oct 2007, 320 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 14226 times:

A plane heading to Lesbos from Athens had to circle for 30 minutes before landing because the guy in the tower was asleep.

The transportation minister said that the guilty will be reprimanded. zzz 

German link: http://www.airline-bewertungen.eu/airlinenews/airlinenews-771.html

29 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27108 posts, RR: 60
Reply 1, posted (6 years 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 14154 times:

Guy should be fired and given jail time . How stupid.

User currently offlineFn1001 From Moldova, joined Sep 2008, 234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 14094 times:

When I saw the title I was thinking about Helios Airways Flight 522. Scary story if true!


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User currently offlineMacc From Austria, joined Nov 2004, 1054 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (6 years 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 14015 times:

well, its not that the guy was asleep IN the tower, he showed up late as he slept too long at home. remote greek islands, relaxing life...

still, not what you want in your career.



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User currently onlineCF105Arrow From Canada, joined Oct 2007, 320 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 13933 times:



Quoting Macc (Reply 3):
well, its not that the guy was asleep IN the tower, he showed up late as he slept too long at home. remote greek islands, relaxing life...

Sorry about that but I dont speak german  footinmouth 

Cheers,

Sam


User currently offlineAirPortugal310 From Tokelau, joined Apr 2004, 3657 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (6 years 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 13924 times:

Only one guy workin the tower in ATH?!?


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User currently offlineDLPMMM From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 3594 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (6 years 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 13910 times:



Quoting AirPortugal310 (Reply 5):
Only one guy workin the tower in ATH?!?

See the OP.

Lesbos


User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9077 posts, RR: 76
Reply 7, posted (6 years 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 13776 times:
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Brief translation:

"73 passengers circled above the Lesbos Island. The air traffic controller of the tower was LATE for work. Scheduled landing of the 737 was 6:35, at 7:05 she was able to land at Lesbos. For about 30 minutes the pilots were unable to contact the tower. The air traffic controller said that he overslept. Controllers are only human beings as well."

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User currently offlinePtugarin From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 326 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 13594 times:

I'm surprised that previous shift could sign off and leave before replacement showed up. They are more guilty than the poor guy who overslept.

User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9077 posts, RR: 76
Reply 9, posted (6 years 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 13586 times:
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Quoting Ptugarin (Reply 8):

Some airports are closed at nights and then is nobody on the tower at all. I don't know how it is in Lesbos, but could be the reason why there hasn't been anybody around.

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User currently offlineNEMA From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 717 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 13517 times:



Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 7):
For about 30 minutes the pilots were unable to contact the tower.

I am surprised during this period that the pilots didnt give up and consider going elswhere...i guess they wouldnt know why they couldnt make contact with anyone and after several attempts an alternative destination might have been sought.



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User currently offlineAcelanzarote From Spain, joined Nov 2005, 843 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 13517 times:

30 minutes seems a long time to circle if the tower was unmanned?
Was someone aware the controller was on the way to work otherwise
how long would the flight have circled before diverting? and where to out
of interest....?

cheers



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User currently offlineClydenairways From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 1249 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 13104 times:

I'm sure the crew contacted another ATC centre and they were able to find out that the controller overslept and was on the way.

User currently offlineAAH732UAL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (6 years 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 13052 times:

Why not treat this as a lost comms procedure and just hold till your ETA. I doubt they were 30 minutes a head of schedule.  scratchchin 

User currently offlineBomber996 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 393 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 12565 times:



Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 9):
Some airports are closed at nights and then is nobody on the tower at all. I don't know how it is in Lesbos, but could be the reason why there hasn't been anybody around.

If this was the case couldn't the aircraft use the CTAF frequency? Or is this against the airlines operating procedure?

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User currently offlineComairGuyCVG From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 337 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (6 years 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 11986 times:



Quoting Bomber996 (Reply 14):
If this was the case couldn't the aircraft use the CTAF frequency?

Yeah that's what I'm thinking. Why couldn't they just come in and land and make the normal call outs as you would coming into any uncontrolled field over CTAF. Because at this point, the airport was basically uncontrolled. And where was the previous controller that was on duty? They couldn't just stay over a few minutes until the relief arrived?


User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9077 posts, RR: 76
Reply 16, posted (6 years 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 11951 times:
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Quoting Bomber996 (Reply 14):



Quoting ComairGuyCVG (Reply 15):

Because the US is not Europe  duck  If there is nobody on the tower the airport is to be considered as closed and can only be used in case of emergency.

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User currently offlineYULWinterSkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2182 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (6 years 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 11873 times:



Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 7):
"73 passengers circled above the Lesbos Island. The air traffic controller of the tower was LATE for work. Scheduled landing of the 737 was 6:35, at 7:05 she was able to land at Lesbos.

Well, who really needs to be in Lesbos at 6.35 AM? It's a greek island! PS: I'm sarcastic, fuel is expensive...



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User currently offlineWildcatYXU From Canada, joined May 2006, 2634 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (6 years 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 10896 times:

There was another plane circling there. GM flight 2050 had to wait too...

User currently offlineComairGuyCVG From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 337 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (6 years 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 8913 times:



Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 16):
Because the US is not Europe If there is nobody on the tower the airport is to be considered as closed and can only be used in case of emergency.

Ahhh good to know.  Smile


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39906 posts, RR: 75
Reply 20, posted (6 years 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 8808 times:



Quoting YULWinterSkies (Reply 17):
Well, who really needs to be in Lesbos at 6.35 AM? It's a greek island! PS: I'm sarcastic, fuel is expensive...

I was thinking the same?  Wink


Glad there was no accident.



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User currently offlineCanuckpaxguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (6 years 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 8410 times:

Here's an english link.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/08092...es/greece_aviation_tourism_offbeat

G


User currently offlineWestJetYQQ From Canada, joined Jan 2007, 2987 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (6 years 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 7052 times:



Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 9):
Some airports are closed at nights and then is nobody on the tower at all. I don't know how it is in Lesbos, but could be the reason why there hasn't been anybody around.



Quoting Acelanzarote (Reply 11):
30 minutes seems a long time to circle if the tower was unmanned?
Was someone aware the controller was on the way to work

Here at Comox, the airport often goes uncontrolled during low traffic periods in the middle of the day. The airport just assumes the situation is as if it was any other uncontrolled airport. Generally if that airport was uncontrolled, the aircraft should have been able to land that way.

Quoting Fn1001 (Reply 2):
When I saw the title I was thinking about Helios Airways Flight 522.

I was thinking of the Go! pilots who were in the news last week!

Cheers
Carson



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User currently offline1821 From Greece, joined Jul 2007, 271 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6910 times:



Quoting AirPortugal310 (Reply 5):

It wasn't ATH it was in Lesbos. ATH always has personnel in the control tower 24/7  Wink



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User currently offlineAirPortugal310 From Tokelau, joined Apr 2004, 3657 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (6 years 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6882 times:



Quoting 1821 (Reply 23):
It wasn't ATH it was in Lesbos. ATH always has personnel in the control tower 24/7

I dont know how I missed that...I read the thing like 5 times over before I posted yet still managed to botch it!



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25 Heathrow : This is remote Greek life! It maky be shocking in our world, but over there (atleast my aunt near SKG) it's a great laugh. Lighten up! The people got
26 Pilotaydin : this isn't a big deal, it happens in the mid east all the time, esp MED airport, last time we went there, we just continued the approach when the towe
27 JAL : I have no doubt that the person will seriously reprimanded.
28 Jbernie : Maybe, as the English might say, they will sit down and have a cup of tea and a chat. Would appear as though a single person manning a tower is a prob
29 Chuchoteur : ... I know that when the French ATC go on strike (happens occasionally), there is a core team providing basic ATC. Even though they are in the tower,
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